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There are a lot of bad fists out there, but there is NO excuse for what I heard on 40 meters one day last week while I was at the work bench...A station in Canton, Ohio was working 7.037...He got a straight key reply to his CQ that was too weak for me to fully copy...His reply was "Your sending is choppy, your fist is terrible, and I cannot copy...73"...The poor guy did not reply...Fortunately I did not have a key hooked up...I was sorely tempted to give this guy a piece of my mind...
Jerry, wa2dkg _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Jeremiah McCarthy wrote on 04/06/05 10:38 ET:
> There are a lot of bad fists out there, but there is NO excuse for > what I heard on 40 meters [...] "Your sending is choppy, your fist > is terrible, and I cannot copy...73" [...] > > Jerry, wa2dkg You're right, Jerry. Maybe it's bad habits, or he's new, maybe there's a physical impairment, or who knows what. I've had great QSOs with guys sending slowly & with let's just say less-than-perfect CW. One op apologized for his fist saying he had just retired, was getting back into radio, and it was his first CW QSO in over 20 years! I felt lucky to have been the one he ran into. And the funny thing, regarding what you copied, is that it takes a lot more effort to use bad manners than good... Mike AB3AP Avondale, PA _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Jeremiah McCarthy wrote:
> There are a lot of bad fists out there, but there is NO excuse for what I heard on 40 meters one day last week while I was at the work bench... A station in Canton, Ohio was working 7.037...He got a straight key reply to his CQ that was too weak for me to fully copy... His reply was "Your sending is choppy, your fist is terrible, and I cannot copy...73"...The poor guy did not reply... Fortunately I did not have a key hooked up...I was sorely tempted to give this guy a piece of my mind... > > Jerry, wa2dkg I had the same thing happen to me on my very first CW contact back in 1992. A gentleman in Pennsylvania let me know in no uncertain terms that my sending with the straight key was downright ugly and almost un-copyable. He also took the time to help me get it straightened out and we ended up have a very enjoyable, albeit SLOW QSO. It motivated me enough to spend the time necessary to improve my sending. If you don't have the time to help a struggling Ham with some tactful instruction keep your hand off the key. You do more damage than good. -- R. Kevin Stover ACØH K2/100 #4684 Reclaim Your Inbox! http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by Jeremiah McCarthy
This is the sort of thing that worries me about working CW. I am all in
favor of practicing before going on the air but what is available out there to do this? Is there a hardware device & software that I can connect a key to that will send information to a PC to test if I'm sending correctly? Al. ----- Original Message ----- His reply was "Your sending is choppy, your fist is terrible, and I cannot copy...73" _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by Jeremiah McCarthy
In a message dated 4/6/2005 10:31:27 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [hidden email] writes: This is the sort of thing that worries me about working CW. I am all in favor of practicing before going on the air but what is available out there to do this? Is there a hardware device & software that I can connect a key to that will send information to a PC to test if I'm sending correctly? Al. ===================================== Al and all, The MFJ-461 Morse Code Reader (~$80) is a very nice tool to improve the quality of one's CW operations. It will improve your fist if you monitor your own sending. Just tune the reader to your rigs sidetone, and a "decent" fist will read out on the display. Fun to play with. Bill K3UJ _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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A simple way to test your own fist might be to record (on cassette, etc)
some of your own sending, save it for a few days and then play it back and see if you can easily copy it. Of the bad fists I have heard, the worst problem seems to be running letters together, followed by little difference in the length of dots and dashes. Keyers help with the latter, but you can still run letters together. The MFJ cw reader is a good idea, there are also some free cw copying programs on the net that could help as well. 73/72 - Mike WA8BXN _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by Able2fly
Hi Al,
I used my K2 in test mode and sent the sidetone into the sound card of my computer. There are various CW readers avaidable, e.g.CwGet (see google for others). Some of these will show you your keying in a oscilloscope like display and tend to be very picky when decoding. I found this to work well for me. vy 73 de toby _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by AD5MA
Hi Al:
At 09:30 AM 4/6/05, you wrote: >This is the sort of thing that worries me about working CW. I am all in >favor of practicing before going on the air but what is available out there >to do this? Is there a hardware device & software that I can connect a key >to that will send information to a PC to test if I'm sending correctly? There are any number of ways to accomplish this... 1) There are CW copying programs which run on your PC and which can accept input (sidetone from the rig, or from a code practice osc.) via their MIC/LINE jack on the sound card. 2) Buy a code copier from MFJ... expensive, but effective... at least while during the short time you will probably need it. 3) Send practice CW into a tape recorder (on record it as a WAV file on your PC, using the sound card input and the MS WAV player), and then play the recorded CW back to yourself after a day or two's rest (to give you time to forget what it was you sent the first time). If you can copy what you sent, chances are others might too. 4) Have someone whose opinion you trust, and who KNOWS what good CW should sound like, critique your fist. Be prepared for some let-downs while you learn... few folks can develop a really great fist without a bit of effort, but it CAN be done. Personally, I like the idea of starting off with a straight key. But find a key of decent quality if at all possible. The cheapie (plastic) keys you can find for a couple bucks seldom do much for your fist, and can materially degrade it, given just a small chance. Once you get the 'feel' for proper inter-character element and character timing, AND once you get up to 15 WPM or so of decent hand-sent code, THEN you're probably ready to consider moving up to a keyer and paddle. I see three main keyer/paddle combinations: 1) Single-lever paddle with a keyer (iambic or other, doesn't matter) 2) Dual-level paddle with an iambic keyer operated WITHOUT using the iambic keying features. 3) Dual-level paddle with an iambic keyer operated WHILE using the iambic keying features. Personally, I tend to prefer configuration #2, because it gives me the versatility of the dual-lever paddle (slight finger timing differences which I appreciate), but since I'm not 'tied' to (and not having learned) using the keyer AS an iambic keyer, I can send decent CW with just about ANY keyer (iambic or not). Many folks who learn to only send CW with an iambic keyer find that they cannot send well if presented with a non-iambic keyer. Additionally, If I learn to send using a dual-lever paddle in the non-iambic mode BUT USING an iambic keyer, if I then choose to maybe try to add a few iambic combinations, or to just 'fudge' my finger timing a bit, the iambic feature will help to compensate and still allow me to send decent CW. I also much prefer keyers which offer AUTO-CHARACTER SPACING. This option can really help an operator who tends to run letters together while sending... I think we all sometimes catch ourselves doing this... usually not very often, but periodically I'll run a couple letters together... ACS will often 'fix' my manual error so the op on the other end never knows my fingers hiccuped. The suggestions the others have offerers are ALL good and should be read and considered... especially those about not sending faster than you can copy AND not sending faster than you can send cleanly. Most (though not all) folks can send faster than they can copy... because they already KNOW what it is they want to send, so they can have the CW all queued up, ready for their fingers to do the walking, so to speak. This doesn't necessarily mean they can send fast WELL though... if you can't send good CW at the higher speeds, then DON'T DO IT! Rotten CW at a higher speed is worse the good CW at a somewhat slower speed. WORK on good character and word spacing when sending CW!!! Concentrate on NOT running letters together... (many ops tend to send the letters "the" too closely spaced... same for "and" coming out as "pd"... and, when you finish a word, there's no harm in allowing a bit more than normal word spacing before starting the next word. This helps the receiving operator to ensure that he has copied a complete word and that he's not gonna be 'surprised' by a run-on next word almost sent as the last part of the previous word. Finally... just like the way to get to Carnegie Hall, PRACTICE... PRACTICE... PRACTICE!!! You cannot practice too much, or too often. And, of course, GET ON THE AIR to hone both your sending AND copying abilities. ANY TIME someone gives you criticism about your fist... ACCEPT it in the spirit it was (probably) given... even though it might seems brutal (or ill-worded), the person making the commend felt the need to take the time to tell you of a possible problem... use that info to search your style and see if there might still be something which needs fixin'. Now... HAVE FUN! 73, Tom Hammond N0SS _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by AD5MA
Hey Al,
Don't worry too much. Fortunately, this lid of which we speak (and lid I shall continue to call him) is in the minority. Most ops are fantastic and supportive and will do as much as they can to help your fist improve--or, at the very least, have a nice QSO with you and be glad to do it. (They might comment on your sloppy sending off air, but they certainly won't go out of their way to humiliate and embarrass!) So, if you're feeling up to it, get on the air and make some noise. I, for one, will be glad to hear you (if indeed I do hear you). Course, I've been a little inactive the past few weeks, but that's OK :) Vy 73, Buddy, KB5ELV -- Protect Your Family From Disease Learn about Glyconutrients, a discovery that helps your body protect, defend, and restore itself by enhancing cell communication. It's not disease orsymptom specific. MIT says," This is 1 of 10 discoveries that will change the world." http://www.theoptimalhealthsolution.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by Jeremiah McCarthy
Funny story about this. I was at the Franklin Institute in Philadelphia. Great science museum for kids of all ages! They have at least three or four places where you can try sending some code. One was a spark gap, one was an old railroad telegraph "sender" and one used the MFJ-461 or similar. They had an old oak desk that was probably reminiscent of the one from a telegraph office and an 8-1/2" x 11" sheet of paper with the typical Morse Code alphabet.
Kids were sitting there trying to look up a letter and send it then look up another letter and send it. Invariably it printed a bunch of erroneous characters (lots of "E" and "T" characters, go figure) on the display. I'm sure the kid thought it was "broken". My XYL told me to send her a message, which I did, and it apparently displayed the message quite well (based on my XYL's response, I didn't look at the display). One kid was amazed and asked me how I was able to do that without looking at the chart. Ah, lots of practice! Mark, NK8Q > > > >The MFJ-461 Morse Code Reader (~$80) is a very nice tool to improve the >quality of one's CW operations. It will improve your fist if you monitor your >own sending. _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by AD5MA
Hi all,
For anyone having trouble getting on the air with CW, there is an email list just for you. It is called SOLIDCPYCW and is at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SolidCpyCW/ . Its just the thing if you still have butterflies about getting on the air. We've got newbies, and old timers getting back to CW or doing it for the first time. Very few CW operators will give you __destructive__ criticism. They are in the minority, and don't deserve to be on the air. If you have a thick skin and realize that having a bad fist is OK if you are new at it, or have a disability of some sort, just get on the air. Sometimes a QRP PSE at the end of the CQ will help. Otherwise join the above email list to get some support from a bunch of nice hams. Regards, Steve, W2MY/5 http://users.ev1.net/~spituch/, Corpus Christi, TX, ELl7 QRP/ARCI 8351, FPQRP 1025, NJQRP 25, QRP-L 269, FISTS 3150, ARS 142, NEQRP 281, NWQRP ??, 10-10 61720, NORCAL 691, K2 #402 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.3 - Release Date: 4/5/2005 _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by Jeremiah McCarthy
There are a lot of bad fists out there, but there is NO excuse for what I
heard on 40 meters one day last week while I was at the work bench...A station in Canton, Ohio was working 7.037...He got a straight key reply to his CQ that was too weak for me to fully copy...His reply was "Your sending is choppy, your fist is terrible, and I cannot copy...73"...The poor guy did not reply...Fortunately I did not have a key hooked up...I was sorely tempted to give this guy a piece of my mind... Jerry, wa2dkg ----------------------------------- I'd have been upset too. Reading your story makes me sad. >From The Amateur's Code: The Amateur is Considerate... never knowingly operates in such a way as to lessen the pleasure of others. The Amateur is Friendly...slow and patient operating when requested; friendly advice and counsel to the beginner; kindly assistance, cooperation and consideration for the interests of others. These are the hallmarks of the amateur spirit. I'd suggest talking to the station who was listening. The station you could hear definitely wasn't listening, nor could he copy code. Maybe he is just a bad character. Maybe he was just embarrassed to realize he couldn't copy CW. I've noticed that happens more often these days as ops get on the air after learning Farnsworth code. It's wonderful that they are able to learn CW more easily and enjoy it more quickly, but several ops I've known who learned Farnsworth had to stop and learn to copy all over again once they got on the air. The problem is that in normal operation most ops on the air don't leave the exaggerated spaces between letters that the Farnsworth system allows when you set the Farnsworth speed well above the actual sending speed. They've been studying Farnsworth CW at 20 WPM and when they got their receiving speed up to, say, 10 wpm, they try to get on the air. Suddenly "real CW" at even 10 or 15 wpm sounds like a run-together jumble to them until they learn to follow the proper spacing and rhythm of CW. To me sending that way is like playing music off key, but if I run into one of those ops, I'll stretch out my spacing so they can copy. After all, some wise wag said that anything worth doing is worth doing badly at first, if necessary. Clearly, the guy who was listening in the QSO you heard was the station "down in the mud" at your QTH that day. If I'd have gotten his call I'd have sent him a letter reassuring him. Ron AC7AC _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by AD5MA
Al wrote:
This is the sort of thing that worries me about working CW. I am all in favor of practicing before going on the air but what is available out there to do this? Is there a hardware device & software that I can connect a key to that will send information to a PC to test if I'm sending correctly? ---------------------- All you need is a good op on the other end Al. The best way to build speed and confidence is to make RF and make QSO's. There's an old pidgin-Latin saying that I've always tried to remember when dealing with inconsiderate ops: "Illigitimus non-carborundum" (Don't let the -bad guys- wear you down). Ron AC7AC _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by ac0h
On Apr 6, 2005, at 10:11 AM, R. Kevin Stover wrote: > Jeremiah McCarthy wrote: >> There are a lot of bad fists out there, but there is NO excuse for >> what I heard on 40 meters one day last week while I was at the work >> bench... > > A station in Canton, Ohio was working 7.037...He got a straight key > reply to his CQ that was too weak for me to fully copy... > > His reply was "Your sending is choppy, your fist is terrible, and I > cannot copy...73"...The poor guy did not reply... > > Fortunately I did not have a key hooked up...I was sorely tempted to > give this guy a piece of my mind... I can't say I completely disagree with the chap in giving such a response. He might have been a bit more pleasant, but, after all, the other ham is supposed to know how to send and receive code **before** he is given a license. Yes, sending is not tested any more, and that is a shame. But what if people got out on the roads in automobiles before they learned how to drive. After they smashed into your car (or your kid), would you suggest they slow down a bit, then sit in the seat next to them to give them a lesson? Not quite the same thing in terms of the severity of the consequences, to be sure, but . . . > I had the same thing happen to me on my very first CW contact back in > 1992. Yes, this is inferable. > A gentleman in Pennsylvania let me know in no uncertain terms that my > sending with the straight key was downright ugly and almost > un-copyable. He also took the time to help me get it straightened out > and we ended up have a very enjoyable, albeit SLOW QSO. > > It motivated me enough to spend the time necessary to improve my > sending. > > If you don't have the time to help a struggling Ham with some tactful > instruction keep your hand off the key. You do more damage than good. There is a difference, here. The rather rude chap above couldn't keep his hand off the key, because he was the one who sent the cq and got answered. I guess he could simply have qsy-ed and ignored the chap. But, just as you benefited from being told in no uncertain terms how your fist stacked up, so likely did this guy. I think a bit of candor regarding bad sending is fully warranted, indeed desirable. I do, however, agree with the the tenor of your remarks that the caller above could have been a bit friendlier. That's decidedly in the ham tradition -- as also ought be decent sending. best wishes, dave belsley, w1euy _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by Able2fly
Hi Gentlefolk,
When I was learning the code, back then to get a UK class A licence one had to pass a mandatory receiving and transmitting test, i used to practice sending by hooking my straight key up to the serial port of my PC. I had an excellent canadian program which took the input and made the sound and put the character on the screen...with a bit of visual feedback it did not take long for me to send fairly accurate code...the listening part of the test was the biggest hurdle. Its been a while since i have been able to transmit CW and the program has long gone...wish i could find it or something similar to get my sending back up to par...73 from cold and rainy UK. Steve G0XAR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike WA8BXN" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Bad fist >A simple way to test your own fist might be to record (on cassette, etc) > some of your own sending, save it for a few days and then play it back and > see if you can easily copy it. Of the bad fists I have heard, the worst > problem seems to be running letters together, followed by little > difference > in the length of dots and dashes. Keyers help with the latter, but you can > still run letters together. The MFJ cw reader is a good idea, there are > also > some free cw copying programs on the net that could help as well. > 73/72 - Mike WA8BXN > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.3 - Release Date: 05/04/2005 > > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by Mike WA8BXN
I agree with taping your own fist and then copying from it a few days
later. But do not record someone on the air and send it to them. I think that will drive folks away from the hobby. Much like showing someone your work of art oo new piece of fiction; unless you are very comfortable with criticism you may be embarrassed or offended. Please use restraint while commenting on others' sending skills. If they ask tell them if they are running letters together or slurring a character or two. Then turn right around and offer to help them improve. CW is so much fun I would not want to rob someone of a life time worth of pleasure simply to feed my own ego. Life does not have to be a zero sum game. 73, Kevin. KD5ONS Mike WA8BXN <[hidden email]> wrote: > A simple way to test your own fist might be to record (on cassette, etc) > some of your own sending, save it for a few days and then play it back > and see if you can easily copy it. ... > 73/72 - Mike WA8BXN -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.4 - Release Date: 4/6/2005 _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by Ron D'Eau Claire-2
I learned CW through a combination of Farnsworth spacing on my CW tapes
and sending in the TEST mode on my K2. Then I passed my test. Scared silly I did not get on the air using CW until the next summer when the VE who tested me for element 1 met me at field day. He asked how many contacts I had made. Meekly, Kevin says, "None." Well he set up a sked for the very next day on 15 meters. Scared and sweating profusely I got on the air. Fought through the QRN and copied him about 30%. He said I did great when he called me on the local repeater. I knew I had not but found out I could actually do it (sort of). So I kept at it with someone more my speed. The VE op was an Air Force ELINT intercept operator in Alaska for years. Very fine fist on any bug you could imagine. He has dozens of the critters. Then I found my current CW mentor (I am not sure if he wants to get mentioned here But Thank you SB!!) He worked with me, and is still working with me. Got me faster and faster. He weaned me from Farnsworth at about 15 wpm. He modified the style so the words were at full speed with larger spaces between. Then he went faster. Eventually I never noticed when the extra spacing went away. Some place in there I got confidence enough (foolish me!) to start the Elecraft CW Net. I thought since the SSB net was getting started maybe we should use these fine rigs for what they are best at doing: CW. So fools (me) rushed in where most angels would be scared silly. Too dumb to know any better I got a CW net going. Wayne still thinks I am a bit nuts but then he may be right ;) But the jist of this ramble is: Farnsworth is great to learn Morse code but see if you can find a mentor to wean you to where you can run the code other ops are more comfortable copying. 73, Kevin. KD5ONS (Net Op Without a Clue) Ron D'Eau Claire <[hidden email]> wrote: > > I've noticed that happens more often these days as ops get on the air > after > learning Farnsworth code. It's wonderful that they are able to learn CW > more > easily and enjoy it more quickly, but several ops I've known who learned > Farnsworth had to stop and learn to copy all over again once they got on > the > air. The problem is that in normal operation most ops on the air don't > leave > the exaggerated spaces between letters that the Farnsworth system allows > when you set the Farnsworth speed well above the actual sending speed. > They've been studying Farnsworth CW at 20 WPM and when they got their > receiving speed up to, say, 10 wpm, they try to get on the air. Suddenly > "real CW" at even 10 or 15 wpm sounds like a run-together jumble to them > until they learn to follow the proper spacing and rhythm of CW. > ... > > Ron AC7AC -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.4 - Release Date: 4/6/2005 _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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