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This isn't just the K3. Other radios have the same problem. It seems to be a mistake that persisted through the years.
The button marked "band" with up and down arrows really is frequency. You push the up arrow and the band goes down. Press down arrow and band goes up. It would be nice to have this fixed in the K3. No hope for other radios. Right now I have a white sticky label with freq on it pasted over the band marking. 73 de Brian/K3KO |
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Your lexicon must be quite different than mine. In my 54 years of
association with ham radio, we have had Amateur "Bands". Why would one want to label the device that changes between these bands as a "frequency" switch? The VFO changes frequency, the band switch changes bands. You are free to re-label yours -- just don't do the same to mine. 73, Don W3FPR K3KO wrote: > This isn't just the K3. Other radios have the same problem. It seems to be > a mistake that persisted through the years. > > The button marked "band" with up and down arrows really is frequency. > > You push the up arrow and the band goes down. Press down arrow and band > goes up. > > It would be nice to have this fixed in the K3. No hope for other radios. > > Right now I have a white sticky label with freq on it pasted over the band > marking. > > Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I think what he is trying to say is that if you hit the band up button, it
actually selects a higher frequency band, not a higher band number. ie: I'm on 7020 (40 meters) and hit the ban up button it goes to 10,140 (30 meters). So it's not going to a higher number band but a higher frequency. I've never given this much thought over the last 45 years and just went with the convention. I guess it's all semantics....anyhow Don is right, if you want re-label your controls, but don't change mine. Gregg R. Lengling, W9DHI Administrator http://www.milwaukeehdtv.org http://forums.ham-radio.ch/ _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by Don Wilhelm-4
Don ,
I agree we think in bands. That's why the band button arrows ought to do the right thing. Here is the situation now: I want to go from 20 to 10 meters. I have to press the DOWN button to go from 10 -->20. Doesn't makes sense by any thought process. Last I knew they still teach counting UP as 0, 1, 2, 3 ....10.... 20. The DOWN arrow changes FREQUENCY down. That's why frequency is the right label. Sure it is a nit. However, more than half the time I end up going the wrong direction because I think in bands and conventional count directions.. 73 de Brian/K3KO Don Wilhelm wrote: > Your lexicon must be quite different than mine. In my 54 years of > association with ham radio, we have had Amateur "Bands". Why would > one want to label the device that changes between these bands as a > "frequency" switch? The VFO changes frequency, the band switch > changes bands. > > You are free to re-label yours -- just don't do the same to mine. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > K3KO wrote: > >> This isn't just the K3. Other radios have the same problem. It >> seems to be >> a mistake that persisted through the years. >> >> The button marked "band" with up and down arrows really is frequency. >> >> You push the up arrow and the band goes down. Press down arrow and band >> goes up. >> >> It would be nice to have this fixed in the K3. No hope for other >> radios. >> >> Right now I have a white sticky label with freq on it pasted over the >> band >> marking. >> > > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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So the 'light dawns'.
This is the situation that has been around since dirt was young. The bands are usually referred to in terms of their wavelength (meters). Most people automatically think of 20 meters as being 'higher' than 30 meters because the frequency is higher. Of course there are exceptions, such as the common reference to 160 meters as "Top Band" and I have heard ops on (say) 20 meters who might comment "Let's try a QSO up on 80 meters". If I am correct in that sort of thinking, perhaps he should just reverse the 'up' and 'down' arrows on the button instead of re-labeling it. 73, Don W3FPR Gregg R. Lengling wrote: > I think what he is trying to say is that if you hit the band up > button, it actually selects a higher frequency band, not a higher band > number. > > ie: I'm on 7020 (40 meters) and hit the ban up button it goes to > 10,140 (30 meters). So it's not going to a higher number band but a > higher frequency. I've never given this much thought over the last 45 > years and just went with the convention. I guess it's all > semantics....anyhow Don is right, if you want re-label your controls, > but don't change mine. > Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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G'day,
I've always thought of it as the next band UP or the next band DOWN determined by frequency, so the current legend is perfectly correct in that context. Just one of those conventions I guess, suits me. Regards, Mike VP8NO ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Alsop" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Cc: <[hidden email]> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 8:54 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Band button | Don , | | I agree we think in bands. That's why the band button arrows ought to | do the right thing. | | Here is the situation now: | I want to go from 20 to 10 meters. I have to press the DOWN button to | go from 10 -->20. Doesn't makes sense by any thought process. | Last I knew they still teach counting UP as 0, 1, 2, 3 ....10.... 20. | | The DOWN arrow changes FREQUENCY down. That's why frequency is the | right label. | | Sure it is a nit. However, more than half the time I end up going the | wrong direction because I think in bands and conventional count | directions.. | | 73 de Brian/K3KO | | | | Don Wilhelm wrote: | | > Your lexicon must be quite different than mine. In my 54 years of | > association with ham radio, we have had Amateur "Bands". Why would | > one want to label the device that changes between these bands as a | > "frequency" switch? The VFO changes frequency, the band switch | > changes bands. | > | > You are free to re-label yours -- just don't do the same to mine. | > | > 73, | > Don W3FPR | > | > K3KO wrote: | > | >> This isn't just the K3. Other radios have the same problem. It | >> seems to be | >> a mistake that persisted through the years. | >> | >> The button marked "band" with up and down arrows really is frequency. | >> | >> You push the up arrow and the band goes down. Press down arrow and band | >> goes up. | >> | >> It would be nice to have this fixed in the K3. No hope for other | >> radios. | >> | >> Right now I have a white sticky label with freq on it pasted over the | >> band | >> marking. _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Brian,
While I see your point clearly, I'm not sure it holds up under what has been the "convention" just about forever. At first blush it does seem to be contradictory. Yes, the band numbers actually do go down, rather than up, as frequency increases. However, We have always considered 20 meters, for example, to be a "higher" band than 40 meters. We think of 10, 15, and 20 as the "high bands", and 40, 80, and 160 as the lower bands. That's because in actuality, the reference is not to the band number, or wavelength, being higher, but to the "band of frequencies" (in khz and mhz), which are indeed higher. In other words, it's just shorthand. In fact, the term "band" is often thought of, not just in terms of wavelength, but in terms of frequency. If you ask someone what "band" they like to operate on, for example, they commonly respond with a frequency reference, like 7 mhz. Also, I'd be willing to bet that you yourself refer to 20 or10 meters as a high band, and not a low band, when you are making a comparison to the lower frequency bands. In any event, you aren't going to convince very many people to change their ways at this point. Whether it's totally logical or not, it is the commonly accepted convention. And it's the accepted reference world-wide. So, unfortunately, you are Don Quixote at the windmill! Just imagine if ON4UN had to issue an apology to the world for having mis-titled his classic antenna book about "Low Band DXing". Just about everything between the covers is about 40, 80, and 160 meters! Good try, but no sale! Dave W7AQK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Alsop" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Cc: <[hidden email]> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 5:54 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Band button > Don , > > I agree we think in bands. That's why the band button > arrows ought to do the right thing. > > Here is the situation now: > I want to go from 20 to 10 meters. I have to press the > DOWN button to go from 10 -->20. Doesn't makes sense by > any thought process. > Last I knew they still teach counting UP as 0, 1, 2, 3 > ....10.... 20. > > The DOWN arrow changes FREQUENCY down. That's why > frequency is the right label. > > Sure it is a nit. However, more than half the time I end > up going the wrong direction because I think in bands and > conventional count directions.. > > 73 de Brian/K3KO > > > > Don Wilhelm wrote: > >> Your lexicon must be quite different than mine. In my 54 >> years of association with ham radio, we have had Amateur >> "Bands". Why would one want to label the device that >> changes between these bands as a "frequency" switch? The >> VFO changes frequency, the band switch changes bands. >> >> You are free to re-label yours -- just don't do the same >> to mine. >> >> 73, >> Don W3FPR >> >> K3KO wrote: >> >>> This isn't just the K3. Other radios have the same >>> problem. It seems to be >>> a mistake that persisted through the years. >>> >>> The button marked "band" with up and down arrows really >>> is frequency. >>> >>> You push the up arrow and the band goes down. Press >>> down arrow and band >>> goes up. >>> >>> It would be nice to have this fixed in the K3. No hope >>> for other radios. >>> >>> Right now I have a white sticky label with freq on it >>> pasted over the band >>> marking. >>> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 04:11:59 -0700 (PDT), K3KO <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >This isn't just the K3. Other radios have the same problem. It seems to be >a mistake that persisted through the years. > >The button marked "band" with up and down arrows really is frequency. > >You push the up arrow and the band goes down. Press down arrow and band >goes up. > >It would be nice to have this fixed in the K3. No hope for other radios. > >Right now I have a white sticky label with freq on it pasted over the band >marking. > >73 de Brian/K3KO I would be very confused by your change, but do see what you mean. I looked at my drake R7 and see that the "BAND" switch on it doesn't have any band labels on it; Only frequency ranges. It seems that Drake shared your thoughts there, but Drake radios were made for any frequency between .5Mhz and 30Mhz, so their labeling on their radios seems appropriate to me. 73, Tom, N5GE - SWOT 3537 - Grid EM12jq "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety deserve neither Liberty nor Safety" An excerpt from a letter written in 1755 from the Assembly to the Governor of Pennsylvania. Support the entire Constitution, not just the parts you like. http://www.n5ge.com http://www.eQSL.cc/Member.cfm?N5GE _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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Please Elecraft, leave the Band Button the way it is now.
Phil K7PB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Wilhelm" <[hidden email]> > This is the situation that has been around since dirt was young. The > bands are usually referred to in terms of their wavelength (meters). > Most people automatically think of 20 meters as being 'higher' than 30 > meters because the frequency is higher _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 04:11:59 -0700 (PDT), K3KO <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >This isn't just the K3. Other radios have the same problem. It seems to be >a mistake that persisted through the years. > >The button marked "band" with up and down arrows really is frequency. > >You push the up arrow and the band goes down. Press down arrow and band >goes up. > >It would be nice to have this fixed in the K3. No hope for other radios. > >Right now I have a white sticky label with freq on it pasted over the band >marking. > >73 de Brian/K3KO Now that I think of it the label on a button that worked the way you would like it to be would be labeled Wavelength. That would put 160m at the top and 6m at the bottom. Please don't do that Elecraft. Tom, N5GE - SWOT 3537 - Grid EM12jq "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety deserve neither Liberty nor Safety" An excerpt from a letter written in 1755 from the Assembly to the Governor of Pennsylvania. Support the entire Constitution, not just the parts you like. http://www.n5ge.com http://www.eQSL.cc/Member.cfm?N5GE _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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K3KO wrote:
> This isn't just the K3. Other radios have the same problem. It seems to be > a mistake that persisted through the years. > > The button marked "band" with up and down arrows really is frequency. > > You push the up arrow and the band goes down. Press down arrow and band > goes up. > > It would be nice to have this fixed in the K3. No hope for other radios. > > Right now I have a white sticky label with freq on it pasted over the band > marking. > As Don said, back when dirt was young [and I can almost but not quite remember that], everything was in wavelength. The Holy Wavelength was 600 meters. So as you went "down" in frequency, you were going "up" in wavelength, hence 1.8 mc = 160 m = "Top Band." By the time I became KN6DGW [1953], the bands were still noted in wavelength [and still are], about half the people used terminology like "10 is going dead, I think I'll head 'down' to 20," and the other half would say, "I'm going 'down' to 10 and see if it's open." By the time I found myself on 600 meters ['56-'57], the Holy Wavelength had mostly become the Holy Frequency [500 kcs], and most everyone on the ham bands thought 10m was above 20m. I have my K2 and K3 so it doesn't matter, but if I didn't and was waiting for it and had a vote, I'd vote for it the way it is. For me, "20m" is not a number on a wavelength scale, it's the name of a band, just like the alternate "name" of 75m in the evening is "The Medical Band." 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2008 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 08 - www.cqp.org _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Gosh,
How the true origin of names get lost with time is amazing. Bands were named after their approximate wavelength. They weren't pulled out of a hat. One can probably find a question related to this in a 1950's vintage Novice exam. Also people have forgotten that the so called "low band DXing phrase" alway had a (frequency) implied after the low. I'm really surprised that this post has drawn such negative comments. After all if the width control were backwards or the shift knob went the wrong way, people would be screaming to have it fixed. 73 de Brian/K3KO
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In a message dated 7/5/08 6:25:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [hidden email]
writes: > Nowhere is it written that the bands assigned to the Amateur service must > be > referred to by wavelength. Agreed. Indeed, here in the USA, our FCC refers to the > > slices of spectrum we're assigned as "Frequency Bands", not "Wavelength > Bands". > Actually, both terms are used by FCC. I just checked Part 97, and the terms are used almost interchangeably. For example, the title of 97.301 is "Authorized Frequency Bands". But when you look at the charts which tell who can operate where in what region, the leftmost column is labeled "Wavelength Bands". Even odder, FCC refers to 3.5-3.6 MHz as "80 meters" and 3.6-4.0 MHz as "75 meters" as if they were not right next to each other. I am not making this up. When I first heard about it, I thought my leg was being pulled, so I went and checked. 73 es "yes it's trivia, but it's my trivia" de Jim, N2EY ************** Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Yeah, anyhow ..... there are other things that really need to be fixed
before cosmetic stuff like that! ----- Original Message ----- From: "PhilB" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Band button > Please Elecraft, leave the Band Button the way it is now. > Phil K7PB > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Don Wilhelm" <[hidden email]> > > >> This is the situation that has been around since dirt was young. The >> bands are usually referred to in terms of their wavelength (meters). >> Most people automatically think of 20 meters as being 'higher' than 30 >> meters because the frequency is higher _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Don't "fix" mine.
73, Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "hank k8dd" <[hidden email]> To: "PhilB" <[hidden email]>; <[hidden email]> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 5:51 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Band button > Yeah, anyhow ..... there are other things that really need to be fixed > before cosmetic stuff like that! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "PhilB" <[hidden email]> > To: <[hidden email]> > Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 3:50 PM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Band button > > > > Please Elecraft, leave the Band Button the way it is now. > > Phil K7PB > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Don Wilhelm" <[hidden email]> > > > > > >> This is the situation that has been around since dirt was young. The > >> bands are usually referred to in terms of their wavelength (meters). > >> Most people automatically think of 20 meters as being 'higher' than 30 > >> meters because the frequency is higher > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Sorry for the added bandwidth but for worry of the rig getting broken I
vote to no have a fix implemented. In my mind I consider the 20 meter band below the 10 meter band. So yes when I press DOWN on a band switch I expect to go to lower frequencies. I'm sure there are many who think I'm dumb for it but I do believe that the 20 meter band is BELOW the 10 meter band. On Sat, 2008-07-05 at 12:54 +0000, Brian Alsop wrote: > Don , > > I agree we think in bands. That's why the band button arrows ought to > do the right thing. > > Here is the situation now: > I want to go from 20 to 10 meters. I have to press the DOWN button to > go from 10 -->20. Doesn't makes sense by any thought process. > Last I knew they still teach counting UP as 0, 1, 2, 3 ....10.... 20. > > The DOWN arrow changes FREQUENCY down. That's why frequency is the > right label. > > Sure it is a nit. However, more than half the time I end up going the > wrong direction because I think in bands and conventional count > directions.. > > 73 de Brian/K3KO > > > > Don Wilhelm wrote: > > > Your lexicon must be quite different than mine. In my 54 years of > > association with ham radio, we have had Amateur "Bands". Why would > > one want to label the device that changes between these bands as a > > "frequency" switch? The VFO changes frequency, the band switch > > changes bands. > > > > You are free to re-label yours -- just don't do the same to mine. > > > > 73, > > Don W3FPR > > > > K3KO wrote: > > > >> This isn't just the K3. Other radios have the same problem. It > >> seems to be > >> a mistake that persisted through the years. > >> > >> The button marked "band" with up and down arrows really is frequency. > >> > >> You push the up arrow and the band goes down. Press down arrow and band > >> goes up. > >> > >> It would be nice to have this fixed in the K3. No hope for other > >> radios. > >> > >> Right now I have a white sticky label with freq on it pasted over the > >> band > >> marking. > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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My vote is for the VFO displays to be in wavelength (YARDS, FEET and INCHES) with an option for frequency in ROMAN NUMERALS!!!!! Now, back to normal service. 73 and enjoy Tony Fegan VE3QF K3 #137 Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: > K3KO wrote: >> This isn't just the K3. Other radios have the same problem. It seems to > be >> a mistake that persisted through the years. >> >> The button marked "band" with up and down arrows really is frequency. > > Nowhere is it written that the bands assigned to the Amateur service must be > referred to by wavelength. ***** > The K3 would be incorrect if the readout was in wavelength. Picture, instead > of "7.00000 MHz" on the LCD you saw "42827.494 meters". If that happened, > the UP/DOWN button would be working backwards. (Quick, what's the upper > frequency limit on the 75 meter band?. It's 74948.1145 meters. Aw... Lets > stay with Hz) > > Ron AC7AC > > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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> My vote is for the VFO displays to be in wavelength (YARDS, FEET and
> INCHES) with an option for frequency in ROMAN NUMERALS!!!!! Only the VFO B can display in roman numerals. We can't do M, V or X in VFO A. And we'll use furlongs for wavelength. The audible feedback from the DVR option will be in Latin in the form of a Gregorian chant. For those who prefer frequency in this mode, the reference won't be in Hertz, but in cycles per fortnight. This is a great Forum... 73, Lyle KK7P _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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On Jul 5, 2008, at 7:11 PM, Lyle Johnson wrote:
>> > For those who prefer frequency in this mode, the reference won't be > in Hertz, but in cycles per fortnight. > > This is a great Forum... Yes, it is, to go with a great rig. But I would prefer the frequency to be in natural units, i.e. radians per second. 73 Rick Dettinger K7MW _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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