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On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 21:46:44 -0400, Tony Fegan VE3QF <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > My vote is for the VFO displays to be in wavelength (YARDS, FEET and >INCHES) with an option for frequency in ROMAN NUMERALS!!!!! :O) [snip] Tom, N5GE - SWOT 3537 - Grid EM12jq "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety deserve neither Liberty nor Safety" An excerpt from a letter written in 1755 from the Assembly to the Governor of Pennsylvania. Support the entire Constitution, not just the parts you like. http://www.n5ge.com http://www.eQSL.cc/Member.cfm?N5GE _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 18:47:25 EDT, [hidden email] wrote:
[snip] > >Actually, both terms are used by FCC. I just checked Part 97, and the terms >are used almost interchangeably. > >For example, the title of 97.301 is "Authorized Frequency Bands". But when >you look at the charts which tell who can operate where in what region, the >leftmost column is labeled "Wavelength Bands". > >Even odder, FCC refers to 3.5-3.6 MHz as "80 meters" and 3.6-4.0 MHz as "75 >meters" as if they were not right next to each other. > >I am not making this up. When I first heard about it, I thought my leg was >being pulled, so I went and checked. > >73 es "yes it's trivia, but it's my trivia" de Jim, N2EY > Yes , and the OSHA Manual, in the fire extinguisher section says that sand buckets need not be included in the yearly test of fire extinguisher apparatus. Ain't bureaucracy grand? Tom, N5GE - SWOT 3537 - Grid EM12jq "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety deserve neither Liberty nor Safety" An excerpt from a letter written in 1755 from the Assembly to the Governor of Pennsylvania. Support the entire Constitution, not just the parts you like. http://www.n5ge.com http://www.eQSL.cc/Member.cfm?N5GE _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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Brian,
I was wondering if you have or had a K2 and if you relabeled it as well? George _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Lyle Johnson wrote:
> <div class="moz-text-flowed" style="font-family: -moz-fixed">> My > vote is for the VFO displays to be in wavelength (YARDS, FEET and >> INCHES) with an option for frequency in ROMAN NUMERALS!!!!! > > Only the VFO B can display in roman numerals. We can't do M, V or X in > VFO A. > > And we'll use furlongs for wavelength. > > The audible feedback from the DVR option will be in Latin in the form of > a Gregorian chant. > > For those who prefer frequency in this mode, the reference won't be in > Hertz, but in cycles per fortnight. Sounds good to me. As one of my UK colleagues once said, "We're going metric ... inch by inch. How about you?" The tour bus driver in Victoria BC remarked that "We Canadians sell gasoline by the teaspoon, that's why the price looks so low." Did the Romans have a decimal point? Interesting thread. Useless ... but interesting. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2008 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 08 - www.cqp.org > > This is a great Forum... Yes it is. Hopefully with a lot of humor when you're not solving our [sometimes imagined] problems. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2008 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 08 - www.cqp.org _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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The Romans didn't even have the concept of zero - it was introduced
from Messopitainia (spelling?) after their fall, if I remember correctly. 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174.0 -- I never did a day's work in my life; it was all fun. -Thomas Edison > Did the Romans have a decimal point? _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Jim N2EY wrote:
> Even odder, FCC refers to 3.5-3.6 MHz as "80 meters" and 3.6-4.0 MHz as > "75 > meters" as if they were not right next to each other. > > I am not making this up. When I first heard about it, I thought my leg was > being pulled, so I went and checked. Tradition in Region 2 was that "80 metres" referred to the portion of the 3.5 - 4.0 MHz allocation in which only CW could be used, and "75 metres" to that portion in which 'phone and CW could be used. My first VE licence (Dec 1947) placed the "divide" at 3.800 MHz, but it was moved down to 3.750 MHz a year or two later. Further changes later. 73, Geoff GM4ESD _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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For those who will now want to add cycles per fortnight to their
conversion tables: 1 Hz = 1,209,600 cycles per fortnight. I just thought you would want to know - I had a moment of leisure this morning and did the calculation on paper :-) 73, Don W3FPR Lyle Johnson wrote: > For those who prefer frequency in this mode, the reference won't be in > Hertz, but in cycles per fortnight. > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Don Wilhelm wrote:
> For those who will now want to add cycles per fortnight to their > conversion tables: > > 1 Hz = 1,209,600 cycles per fortnight. > > I just thought you would want to know - I had a moment of leisure this > morning and did the calculation on paper :-) Funny, the first thing I did when I saw Lyle's message was to do the same! What's really interesting is the wavelength of 1 cpf: 2.5 x10**6 m. The "2-1/2 million meter band"! -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Vic K2VCO wrote:
> Don Wilhelm wrote: >> For those who will now want to add cycles per fortnight to their >> conversion tables: >> >> 1 Hz = 1,209,600 cycles per fortnight. >> >> I just thought you would want to know - I had a moment of leisure this >> morning and did the calculation on paper :-) > > Funny, the first thing I did when I saw Lyle's message was to do the same! > > What's really interesting is the wavelength of 1 cpf: 2.5 x10**6 m. The > "2-1/2 million meter band"! Oops. The real wavelength is 3.6 x 10**14 meters! Sorry. -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Heinrich Hertz would be proud !
You have to credit Don for his new term for cpf - perhaps wm? Lets all meet on 8.515584e12 wm for some QRP CW. So do I push the button UP or DOWN? :-) On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 1:11 PM, Vic K2VCO <[hidden email]> wrote: > Vic K2VCO wrote: >> >> Don Wilhelm wrote: >>> >>> For those who will now want to add cycles per fortnight to their >>> conversion tables: >>> >>> 1 Hz = 1,209,600 cycles per fortnight. >>> >>> I just thought you would want to know - I had a moment of leisure this >>> morning and did the calculation on paper :-) >> >> Funny, the first thing I did when I saw Lyle's message was to do the same! >> >> What's really interesting is the wavelength of 1 cpf: 2.5 x10**6 m. The >> "2-1/2 million meter band"! > > Oops. The real wavelength is 3.6 x 10**14 meters! Sorry. > > -- > 73, > Vic, K2VCO > Fresno CA > http://www.qsl.net/k2vco > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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No credit for me on that one George - Lyle was the first to recognize
the units. 73, Don W3FPR George Victor wrote: > Heinrich Hertz would be proud ! > You have to credit Don for his new term for cpf - perhaps wm? > Lets all meet on 8.515584e12 wm for some QRP CW. > So do I push the button UP or DOWN? :-) > > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I think there is a misunderstanding of the meaning of the word "Band".
The higher bands for example refer to the bands in terms of frequency. The 20m band is in terms of wavelength. However, no bands are officially described in terms of wavelength any more. Not since 150m and down! Look at all band plans - even the USA one - and you will find it is defined by frequency. So, the K3 and all other radios are correct. Mike
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Bzzt. What does "top band" mean?
73, doug Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 11:30:58 -0700 (PDT) From: AD6XY - Mike <[hidden email]> I think there is a misunderstanding of the meaning of the word "Band". The higher bands for example refer to the bands in terms of frequency. The 20m band is in terms of wavelength. However, no bands are officially described in terms of wavelength any more. Not since 150m and down! Look at all band plans - even the USA one - and you will find it is defined by frequency. So, the K3 and all other radios are correct. Mike K3KO wrote: > > This isn't just the K3. Other radios have the same problem. It seems to > be a mistake that persisted through the years. > > The button marked "band" with up and down arrows really is frequency. > > You push the up arrow and the band goes down. Press down arrow and band > goes up. > > It would be nice to have this fixed in the K3. No hope for other radios. > > Right now I have a white sticky label with freq on it pasted over the band > marking. > > 73 de Brian/K3KO > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In a message dated 7/6/08 2:36:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [hidden email]
writes: > What does "top band" mean? > 160 meters (1.8 to 2.0 MHz) The name derives from the time when we thought primarily in terms of wavelength. Going to a longer wave was going "up" and to a shorter wave was "down". Hence Clinton B. Desoto's book title "200 Meters and Down" (yes, it should be metres....) 160 is the longest wave hams can use, hence it's the top band. 73 de Jim, N2EY ************** Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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G'day,
| 160 is the longest wave hams can use, hence it's the top band. | | 73 de Jim, N2EY 137kHz = 2188 metres Regards, Mike VP8NO _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I think the most practical unit of measure is the "chain". It is
perfect in that 20 would be 1 and then the bands are up or down from there. Also makes laying out antennas in the yard very easy. 73, Bob K2TK Vic K2VCO wrote: > Don Wilhelm wrote: > >> For those who will now want to add cycles per fortnight to their >> conversion tables: >> >> 1 Hz = 1,209,600 cycles per fortnight. >> >> I just thought you would want to know - I had a moment of leisure >> this morning and did the calculation on paper :-) > > > Funny, the first thing I did when I saw Lyle's message was to do the > same! > > What's really interesting is the wavelength of 1 cpf: 2.5 x10**6 m. > The "2-1/2 million meter band"! _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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N2EY wrote:
> >160 is the longest wave hams can use, hence it's the top band. > That's right - keep pressing BAND ^ and there it is, just above 50MHz. -- 73 from Ian GM3SEK http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Isn't there some authorized amateur activity in the 600
meter band? I saw someone post that they had a beacon going aroun 500 khz. Dave W7AQK ----- Original Message ----- From: <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]>; <[hidden email]> Cc: <[hidden email]> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Band button > In a message dated 7/6/08 2:36:25 PM Eastern Daylight > Time, [hidden email] > writes: > > >> What does "top band" mean? >> > > 160 meters (1.8 to 2.0 MHz) > > The name derives from the time when we thought primarily > in terms of > wavelength. Going to a longer wave was going "up" and to a > shorter wave was "down". > Hence Clinton B. Desoto's book title "200 Meters and Down" > (yes, it should be > metres....) > > 160 is the longest wave hams can use, hence it's the top > band. > > 73 de Jim, N2EY > > > ************** > Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos > for fuel-efficient used cars. > > (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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