Best Antenna Portable/Tabletop Operation for KX3

[N0AZZ]

Looking for the best out of the worst kind of antenna for my KX3 all band. I
have the MFJ telescopic with the taps you plug into for the different but
there must be something better out there.

 

What have others used that they have been pleased with performance of? I
have checked the reviews of others and most seem to be not much better than
what I have, the Perth among them.

 

73,

Fred/N0AZZ

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[Bruce Beford-2]

> Looking for the best out of the worst kind of antenna for my KX3 all band.

 

I think you just summed it up nicely yourself. These telescopic antennas
with loading coils at the bottom are all going to be many dB down from even
a modest wire antenna on a push up pole, like a Jackite kite pole.

 

possible exception: you are on a beach with your ankles in salt water.

 

Fact is, you -can- make contacts on anything, including a dummy load, when
conditions are great. Another fact is, conditions are not always great. My
opinion is that if you put some thought into how to get some wire in the
air, something that is packable and easy to set up, (Like the kite poles)
you will be far more satisfied than messing with the small tapped coil (or
adjustable coil) jobs. Yes, they will work- sometimes. But you'll get far
more operating performance and enjoyment out of  something else. It's fairly
simple to bungee a pole to the edge of a picnic table, and you can easily
have an 88ft doublet up as an inverted vee in no time.

 

Good luck,

Bruce, N1RX

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[Dr. William J. Schmidt, II]

Well Antenna theory and operation, like the rest of physics, always hold
true (nuclear blasts don't count)... so the more radiating surface (wire
length or tubing surface) you can get in the air... the better.  There is
also a convenience factor, meaning whatever it is needs to tune for the band
of operation and be easy to put up.

Convenient low gain options: Long-wires are easy, cheap, and wonderful.
Kites, balloons, weights tossed into tree limbs with fishing line, dangling
down the side of buildings, etc.  Push-up verticals are great too, but they
need a counter poise of some sort (for the other half of the antenna... as
it were), so include at least 3 radials (three obviously because they will
be elevated... not dug into the ground for portable ops).

Convenient portable gain options: 30-6 meters...Superantenna YP3 and
portable tower is very worthy trapped beam antenna (I use this on dxpedition
every year with amazing success), Spider beams, other wire beams that are
simple to assemble... like wire verticals or delta loops.  All excellent
choices... There are many antennas in the category that others will fill in
as favorites.


>Looking for the best out of the worst kind of antenna for my KX3 all band.
I have the MFJ telescopic with the taps you plug into for the different but
there must be something better out there.
>What have others used that they have been pleased with performance of? I
have checked the reviews of others and most seem to be not much better than
what I have, the Perth among them.
>73,
>Fred/N0AZZ


Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ / J68HZ/ 8P6HK/ ZF2HZ/ PJ4HZ

Owner - Operator
Big Signal Ranch
Staunton, Illinois

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[David F. Reed-2]

Fred,

for many, my self included, as long a wire as high up in a tree as I can
get it, with a counterpoise about 50' long is my favorite.

The antenna wire up in the tree and going down to ground at the far end,
and to the rig (Via BNC to binder post adapter) is typically about 130'
in my use.  I have had great success and it is cheap, light, compact.

If I am going to the beach or mountain top (no trees) I use either my
Buddipole or the Ventenna, whichever I brought; they both work very well
for me.

Enjoy that KX3! 72 de Dave, W5SV

On 1/28/13 6:26 AM, Fred Smith wrote:

> Looking for the best out of the worst kind of antenna for my KX3 all band. I
> have the MFJ telescopic with the taps you plug into for the different but
> there must be something better out there.
>
>  
>
> What have others used that they have been pleased with performance of? I
> have checked the reviews of others and most seem to be not much better than
> what I have, the Perth among them.
>
>  
>
> 73,
>
> Fred/N0AZZ

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[W4SK]

Look at the PAR end fed wire.
So convenient, well made, works like a CHAMP.
Use it with my own KX3.

http://www.lnrprecision.com/

Have fun!

-73-

W4SK


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[N0AZZ]

Ok I give up I have some 31' telescoping fiberglass windsock poles collapse
to 4' but still a hassle to setup. The guys, ground stakes, ground rod,
counterpoise's....but it will work well. At home now I have 75' of low loss
RG-58U terminated with a BNC connector, I can go out on the deck and use all
my antennas at home outdoors.

Fred/N0AZZ

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> Looking for the best out of the worst kind of antenna for my KX3 all band.

 

I think you just summed it up nicely yourself. These telescopic antennas
with loading coils at the bottom are all going to be many dB down from even
a modest wire antenna on a push up pole, like a Jackite kite pole.

 

possible exception: you are on a beach with your ankles in salt water.

 

Fact is, you -can- make contacts on anything, including a dummy load, when
conditions are great. Another fact is, conditions are not always great. My
opinion is that if you put some thought into how to get some wire in the
air, something that is packable and easy to set up, (Like the kite poles)
you will be far more satisfied than messing with the small tapped coil (or
adjustable coil) jobs. Yes, they will work- sometimes. But you'll get far
more operating performance and enjoyment out of  something else. It's fairly
simple to bungee a pole to the edge of a picnic table, and you can easily
have an 88ft doublet up as an inverted vee in no time.

 

Good luck,

Bruce, N1RX

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[David Cutter]

Have a look at multi-band off-centre-fed dipoles, loads of examples and good
reading here:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/windom_antenna/

Also covers baluns and "tuners"

David
G3UNA

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[Gil G.]

I'll second that. I have the PAR 40/20/10 and it works great. Also good when there are no trees around is the Buddistick. It works well up to and including 30m, but not so well on 40 with the original whip and coil.

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On Jan 28, 2013, at 9:32 AM, W4SK wrote:

> Look at the PAR end fed wire.
> So convenient, well made, works like a CHAMP.
> Use it with my own KX3.
>
> http://www.lnrprecision.com/
>
> Have fun!
>
> -73-
>
> W4SK

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[N0AZZ]

I'm checking out each and every one of the antennas suggested a really good
mix. One question the Buddipole vs. Buddistick which is best and the main
performance issues between the 2 from those using them? The Par is very
interesting, I might be wishing for too much but the WARC bands would be
nice on the 10/20/40m 8>). What seems to be the issue on 40m with it? I
could live with the 3 bands but would hate to lose 40m.

Thx & 73,
Fred/N0AZZ

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[Chip Stratton]

The wire pulled up into a tree and tuned with the KX3 ATU works well for me
40 ft with 3 16 foot radials on the ground). So also does a PAR end fedz
antenna, though I just have the 20m version. Sometimes putting a wire into
a tree isn't the ideal (like on some SOTA peak activations). For that, I've
found that the AlexLoop Walkham works amazingly well for something so easy
to carry and set up. Big downside is the expense, but it has worked
extremely well for me on 15, 20, and 30m. Not enough datapoints to comment
on 40m or 10m, but it does tune up on those bands.

Chip
AE5KA


On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 8:29 AM, Fred Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I'm checking out each and every one of the antennas suggested a really good
> mix. One question the Buddipole vs. Buddistick which is best and the main
> performance issues between the 2 from those using them? The Par is very
> interesting, I might be wishing for too much but the WARC bands would be
> nice on the 10/20/40m 8>). What seems to be the issue on 40m with it? I
> could live with the 3 bands but would hate to lose 40m.
>
> Thx & 73,
> Fred/N0AZZ
>
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[David Higdon]

Fred, I think the 40m issues was in regard to the BuddiStick. I have just received my Par 10/20/40 and the included instructions tell how make your own length of wire to substitute for the original wire in order to cover any band of your choice.

Dave KD4ICT

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> Date: January 28, 2013 11:29:41 AM EST
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Best Antenna Portable/Tabletop Operation for KX3
>
> I'm checking out each and every one of the antennas suggested a really good
> mix. One question the Buddipole vs. Buddistick which is best and the main
> performance issues between the 2 from those using them? The Par is very
> interesting, I might be wishing for too much but the WARC bands would be
> nice on the 10/20/40m 8>). What seems to be the issue on 40m with it? I
> could live with the 3 bands but would hate to lose 40m.
>
> Thx & 73,
> Fred/N0AZZ
>
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[Gil G.]

The PAR works great on 40m, it's the Buddistick that is inefficient on that band with the original coil and whip.

A magnetic loop isn't hard to build. You can get an air variable capacitor, say 100pF, some soft copper coil from the hardware store and PVC tubing for support and build one in no time. The downside is the narrow bandwidth and potentially lethal voltages, but they work great.
Here is one I made for 6m: http://radiopreppers.com/index.php/topic,325.0.html
And for 30/40m: http://radiopreppers.com/index.php/topic,180.0.html
I have enough copper left for a 10-30m version as well. Much cheaper than buying an already made one from Europe...

Gil.
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[ny4g]

The par end fed z has served me well portable - used it for 2012 field day and placed second in our class -  although we did have a hex beam as well for daytime operation - when 40 went long in the middle of the night - the par end fed did great.  I typically get into eastern Europe with the par antenna when conditions are good.  I used the 40-20-10 matchbox and turned it into a 30m monobander that also works great on 15m - so you can get 5 bands with two pieces of wire . I never got any distance with the Buddistick and sold it.  

Ariel NY4G

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On Jan 28, 2013, at 12:16 PM, "Gil G." <[hidden email]> wrote:

> The PAR works great on 40m, it's the Buddistick that is inefficient on that band with the original coil and whip.
>
> A magnetic loop isn't hard to build. You can get an air variable capacitor, say 100pF, some soft copper coil from the hardware store and PVC tubing for support and build one in no time. The downside is the narrow bandwidth and potentially lethal voltages, but they work great.
> Here is one I made for 6m: http://radiopreppers.com/index.php/topic,325.0.html
> And for 30/40m: http://radiopreppers.com/index.php/topic,180.0.html
> I have enough copper left for a 10-30m version as well. Much cheaper than buying an already made one from Europe...
>
> Gil.
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[N0AZZ]

Thanks Dave I noticed that after I posted that my mistake.

Fred/N0AZZ

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Fred, I think the 40m issues was in regard to the BuddiStick. I have just
received my Par 10/20/40 and the included instructions tell how make your
own length of wire to substitute for the original wire in order to cover any
band of your choice.

Dave KD4ICT

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> From: "Fred Smith" <[hidden email]>
> Date: January 28, 2013 11:29:41 AM EST
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Best Antenna Portable/Tabletop Operation for
> KX3
>
> I'm checking out each and every one of the antennas suggested a really
> good mix. One question the Buddipole vs. Buddistick which is best and
> the main performance issues between the 2 from those using them? The
> Par is very interesting, I might be wishing for too much but the WARC
> bands would be nice on the 10/20/40m 8>). What seems to be the issue
> on 40m with it? I could live with the 3 bands but would hate to lose 40m.
>
> Thx & 73,
> Fred/N0AZZ
>
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[W0FK]

Makes me want to run out and build one right away!!  :-)

Lou, W0FK

Gil G. wrote

...The downside is the ... potentially lethal voltages....

[Don Butler]

I looked at the buddipole and similar types, but quickly rejected the
notion ... It looked to me like you need to rebuild the antenna every
time you change bands with those gadgets.... And that just wouldn't work
for me.  I use a random wire with counterpoise with my KX1 and KX3 ....
And rather than using trees for support, which can be a real PITA, I use
a telescoping painters pole purchased at Lowes, support it with a
speaker stand purchased from a music store  (musiciansfriend.com), and
guy it with rope.... It gets up to around 22 feet..

Don, N5LZ

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Looking for the best out of the worst kind of antenna for my KX3 all
band. I have the MFJ telescopic with the taps you plug into for the
different but there must be something better out there.

 

What have others used that they have been pleased with performance of? I
have checked the reviews of others and most seem to be not much better
than what I have, the Perth among them.

 

73,

Fred/N0AZZ

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[Richard-3]

"Potentially lethal" reminds me of one particular engineer I encountered back when I managed haz waste site cleanups.  He was deathly afraid of nackle.  Short exposure was known to be deadly to plant and animals, and worker exposure limits were very short.  Nackle, I had no clue until I translated- NaCl.  Sodium chloride.  Table salt.  We were investigating a brine plant site 30 years after it was abandoned.  Potentially lethal if you fell in 30 years before.  

Need dose info.  Frequency, power, distance, receptor.

Exposure limits for 5W, 20m, to people are around 5 feet IIRC.  Note: my arm is less than 5 feet long.  My leg has been pulled so often it may be approaching 5 feet long (grin).

Rich
NU6T

W0FK <[hidden email]> wrote:

>Makes me want to run out and build one right away!!  :-)
>
>Lou, W0FK
>
>
>Gil G. wrote
>> ...The downside is the ... potentially lethal voltages....
>
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[Bruce Beford-2]

I wouldn't give up.

I routinely use a 31 ft kite pole with nothing more than a plastic tent
stake driven into the ground. I unscrew the bottom cap on the pole, and put
it over the stake. This prevents the bottom of the pole from kicking
outward. I bungee the pole against a picnic table or the handle on the end
of my small pop-up camper.

I use 300 ohm tv twin lead up the pole, with velcro ties in a couple places
to hold it. The twin lead connects to (2) 44ft lengths of 22 ga wire to form
an 88 ft doublet- no balun. The twin lead connects directly to the rig (with
an internal ATU. No ground stake, no counterpoise. no guys. The antenna
itself, pulled out as an inverted vee with maybe 6-10 ft of twine attached
to each end is all the guying you need, if the pole is secured to a table of
some other object. Total time to set up, less than 10 minutes.

There are many other possible configurations, of course. This one simply
works for me, with minimal hassle, and reliable results.

73,
Bruce, N1RX

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Ok I give up I have some 31' telescoping fiberglass windsock poles collapse
to 4' but still a hassle to setup. The guys, ground stakes, ground rod,
counterpoise's....but it will work well. At home now I have 75' of low loss
RG-58U terminated with a BNC connector, I can go out on the deck and use all
my antennas at home outdoors.

Fred/N0AZZ



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[Gil G.]

Hello,

I meant potentially lethal if you touch the loop while transmitting, as in electrocution, not RF exposure…
But we are diverting from the Elecraft subject here...

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On Jan 28, 2013, at 3:21 PM, Richard wrote:
>
> Need dose info.  Frequency, power, distance, receptor.

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[Jim Low man]

If you want something reasonably portable that will deploy quickly, you
might consider the EFHW vertical antenna from the Emergency Amateur
Radio Club in Hawaii:

http://www.earchi.org/92011endfedfiles/Endfed6_40.pdf

You can buy some or all of the parts needed from the club, and the cost
includes Priority Mail shipping.
The complete parts list an instructions are in the PDF file if you want
to roll your own.

I hate radials, so this turned out to be a great antenna.  None required!

You can hang it in a tree, or mount it on something like a 33-foot
Jackite Pole.

I've lost the source, but there is a video on YouTube that shows a ham
in New York setting one up in an old umbrella stand on his deck.
Check this out, also:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWkpQ785Pjo&noredirect=1

73 de Jim - AD6CW

On 1/28/2013 6:12 AM, Dr. William J. Schmidt, II wrote:

> Convenient low gain options: Long-wires are easy, cheap, and wonderful.
> Kites, balloons, weights tossed into tree limbs with fishing line, dangling
> down the side of buildings, etc.  Push-up verticals are great too, but they
> need a counter poise of some sort (for the other half of the antenna... as
> it were), so include at least 3 radials (three obviously because they will
> be elevated... not dug into the ground for portable ops).
>
> Convenient portable gain options: 30-6 meters...Superantenna YP3 and
> portable tower is very worthy trapped beam antenna (I use this on dxpedition
> every year with amazing success), Spider beams, other wire beams that are
> simple to assemble... like wire verticals or delta loops.  All excellent
> choices... There are many antennas in the category that others will fill in
> as favorites.
>
>

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