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> An outboard appliance containing programmable buttons would be useful. Available now with X-Keys (www.xkeys.com) devices as long as you are using a computer. X-Keys devices could be programmed to generate K3 macros which can be combined with Logger control using the Enterlogic VSPE (Free) or similar software. The VSPE function is built into microHAM Router (for those using microHAM "keyer" interfaces). One only needs one of the X-Keys keyboards or button bars (PS/2 or USB) and an application to translate the button presses to macro commands. An external device (no computer) would not be that difficult to build using a PIC and USB keypad. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 8/10/2010 10:11 AM, Mike K2MK wrote: > > An outboard appliance containing programmable buttons would be useful. For > example, I'll push SPOT hundreds of times during a contest. A small pod that > I could position on the left side of my computer keyboard would be nice. > Bandwidth selection from the pod would be a real bonus. > > 73, > Mike K2MK > > > > > > W8JI wrote: >> >>> You can recall the default bandwidth for each roofing filter by using >>> the XFIL button. If you then used PF1/PF2 for two other bandwidths >>> you would not tie up M1 - M4. >> >> When operators come in and have an hour or two to learn things, it is >> easier >> to relabel the M1-M4 bandwidth and just tap them. When there is QRM and a >> contact lasts only a few seconds bandwidth needs changed fast! Push and >> hold >> takes too long. The RIT and XIT are also used all the time, so there is >> that >> consideration. >> >>>> It would be nice to have a second frequency tucked away for instant >>>> recall with one quick tap, not what is on VFO A or B. >>> >>> If you free up M1 - M4 you can store four frequencies per band ... to >>> save them it's V>M M1-M4, to recall them it's M>V M1-M4 (in fact it >>> appears that you can have eight frequencies and M1-M4 can be both tap >>> and hold). >> >> The use of RIT and the need for speed in changing BW means I have to keep >> bandwidths on M1-M4. It might be ok but it might also be too inconvient >> with >> so many button pushes, I haven't tried it because one of the first >> suggestions was to get bandwidths on push buttons. :-) >> >> >> I'll give it a try though by eliminating one preset bandwidth and see how >> it >> plays. >> It's just really nice to have a stacking memory in the BAND buttons. >> Everyone I know uses it far more than regular memories. >> >>> I haven't tired it but you might even be able to use "Hold" M1-M4 for >>> setting bandwidth >> >> No, that has to be FAST. >> >> >>> and M>V "tap" M1-M4 for your per band scratchpad >>> memories. >> >> That might be able to be a "hold", I'm going to try making the hold delay >> longer. >> >> >> 73 Tom >> > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Hi Joe,
Looks good, but if Elecraft made it, it would be perfectly integrated with the K3. It could be programmed from the K3 Utility Program and would not require other software to be running for it to work. 73, Mike K2MK -------------------------------------------------- From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <[hidden email]> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 10:50 AM To: <[hidden email]>; <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Storing frequencies and bandwidth > > > An outboard appliance containing programmable buttons would be useful. > > Available now with X-Keys (www.xkeys.com) devices as long as you > are using a computer. X-Keys devices could be programmed to > generate K3 macros which can be combined with Logger control > using the Enterlogic VSPE (Free) or similar software. The VSPE > function is built into microHAM Router (for those using microHAM > "keyer" interfaces). > > One only needs one of the X-Keys keyboards or button bars (PS/2 or > USB) and an application to translate the button presses to macro > commands. > > An external device (no computer) would not be that difficult > to build using a PIC and USB keypad. > > 73, > > ... Joe, W4TV > > > On 8/10/2010 10:11 AM, Mike K2MK wrote: >> >> An outboard appliance containing programmable buttons would be useful. >> For >> example, I'll push SPOT hundreds of times during a contest. A small pod >> that >> I could position on the left side of my computer keyboard would be nice. >> Bandwidth selection from the pod would be a real bonus. >> >> 73, >> Mike K2MK ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
Re: Storing frequencies and bandwidth
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> Looks good, but if Elecraft made it, And you think Elecraft can produce something in small quantities at a price competitive with a larger market product, sell it to a subset of the 5000 Kw owners at a lower price than the equivalent commercial product and make a reasonable profit? Believe me, I looked into a 12 button external box and it wasn't feasible for the $100 price of one of the Xkeys sticks. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 8/10/2010 11:04 AM, K2MK wrote: > Hi Joe, > > Looks good, but if Elecraft made it, it would be perfectly integrated > with the K3. It could be programmed from the K3 Utility Program and > would not require other software to be running for it to work. > > 73, > Mike K2MK > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <[hidden email]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 10:50 AM > To: <[hidden email]>; <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Storing frequencies and bandwidth > >> >> > An outboard appliance containing programmable buttons would be useful. >> >> Available now with X-Keys (www.xkeys.com) devices as long as you >> are using a computer. X-Keys devices could be programmed to >> generate K3 macros which can be combined with Logger control >> using the Enterlogic VSPE (Free) or similar software. The VSPE >> function is built into microHAM Router (for those using microHAM >> "keyer" interfaces). >> >> One only needs one of the X-Keys keyboards or button bars (PS/2 or >> USB) and an application to translate the button presses to macro >> commands. >> >> An external device (no computer) would not be that difficult >> to build using a PIC and USB keypad. >> >> 73, >> >> ... Joe, W4TV >> >> >> On 8/10/2010 10:11 AM, Mike K2MK wrote: >>> >>> An outboard appliance containing programmable buttons would be >>> useful. For >>> example, I'll push SPOT hundreds of times during a contest. A small >>> pod that >>> I could position on the left side of my computer keyboard would be nice. >>> Bandwidth selection from the pod would be a real bonus. >>> >>> 73, >>> Mike K2MK > > > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Joe, how would I use X-keys (say a stick) on a Mac running OSX 10.6.4 via a DigiKeyer?
73 de M0XDF -- Being a System Administrator is like being a plumber. If you do a good job, nobody knows. If you screw up, everybody gets covered in s**t! On 10 Aug 2010, at 16:27, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: > >> Looks good, but if Elecraft made it, > > And you think Elecraft can produce something in small quantities > at a price competitive with a larger market product, sell it to > a subset of the 5000 Kw owners at a lower price than the equivalent > commercial product and make a reasonable profit? > > Believe me, I looked into a 12 button external box and it wasn't > feasible for the $100 price of one of the Xkeys sticks. > > 73, > > ... Joe, W4TV > > > On 8/10/2010 11:04 AM, K2MK wrote: >> Hi Joe, >> >> Looks good, but if Elecraft made it, it would be perfectly integrated >> with the K3. It could be programmed from the K3 Utility Program and >> would not require other software to be running for it to work. >> >> 73, >> Mike K2MK >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <[hidden email]> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 10:50 AM >> To: <[hidden email]>; <[hidden email]> >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Storing frequencies and bandwidth >> >>> >>>> An outboard appliance containing programmable buttons would be useful. >>> >>> Available now with X-Keys (www.xkeys.com) devices as long as you >>> are using a computer. X-Keys devices could be programmed to >>> generate K3 macros which can be combined with Logger control >>> using the Enterlogic VSPE (Free) or similar software. The VSPE >>> function is built into microHAM Router (for those using microHAM >>> "keyer" interfaces). >>> >>> One only needs one of the X-Keys keyboards or button bars (PS/2 or >>> USB) and an application to translate the button presses to macro >>> commands. >>> >>> An external device (no computer) would not be that difficult >>> to build using a PIC and USB keypad. >>> >>> 73, >>> >>> ... Joe, W4TV >>> >>> >>> On 8/10/2010 10:11 AM, Mike K2MK wrote: >>>> >>>> An outboard appliance containing programmable buttons would be >>>> useful. For >>>> example, I'll push SPOT hundreds of times during a contest. A small >>>> pod that >>>> I could position on the left side of my computer keyboard would be nice. >>>> Bandwidth selection from the pod would be a real bonus. >>>> >>>> 73, >>>> Mike K2MK >> ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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my P3 sn # is one off from my radio #44 #@#%$#@^%$....
whomever got # 44 would ya swap labels sn for # 43 ???? tnx for the trivial waste of everyone 's time bill ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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You know, sooner or later this practice is going to backfire. Someone
is going to swap, say, SN 150 for SN 50. Then Elecraft is going to come out with a hardware mod that applies only to units with SN < 100. Pretty unlikely for units a few numbers apart, but there IS a point to having specific numbers associated with specific hardware. I wonder if the SN is programmed into the P3 firmware like it is in the K3? 73 -- Joe KB8AP On Aug 10, 2010, at 9:08 AM, ny9h wrote: > my P3 sn # is one off from my radio #44 #@#%$#@^%$.... > > whomever got # 44 would ya swap labels sn for # 43 ???? > > tnx for the trivial waste of everyone 's time > > bill ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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good point
since i was missing the standoffs for the front panel i was stoppe din my tracks when i started to assemble,,,, bill At 12:26 PM 8/10/2010, you wrote: >Bill: You might want to check - but what if the P3's serial number >is imbedded in the firmware as was done with the K3. In which case >just exchanging the P3's labels wouldn't do it. > >I have a P3 on order but not received yet so I can't check this out. > >73, Doug VE3MV > >----- Original Message ----- From: "ny9h" <[hidden email]> >To: "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]> >Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 12:08 PM >Subject: [Elecraft] who got P3 sn 44??? > > >>my P3 sn # is one off from my radio #44 #@#%$#@^%$.... ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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The serial number is NOT programmed into the P3. Joe, however, does
have an excellent point about future mods. While you will probably remember what the real number is, someday your P3 might belong to someone else who may not. 73, Brian, W6FVI P3 Production Manager Elecraft,Inc. > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] who got P3 sn 44??? > Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 09:27:41 -0700 > From: Joe Planisky <[hidden email]> > To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]> > > > > You know, sooner or later this practice is going to backfire. Someone > is going to swap, say, SN 150 for SN 50. Then Elecraft is going to > come out with a hardware mod that applies only to units with SN< > 100. Pretty unlikely for units a few numbers apart, but there IS a > point to having specific numbers associated with specific hardware. > > I wonder if the SN is programmed into the P3 firmware like it is in > the K3? > > 73 > -- > Joe KB8AP > > > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I thought the same thing, but if they are willing to accept it...
73 de M0XDF -- Children aren't happy without something to ignore, And that's what parents were created for. -Ogden Nash (1902-1971) On 10 Aug 2010, at 17:27, Joe Planisky wrote: > You know, sooner or later this practice is going to backfire. Someone > is going to swap, say, SN 150 for SN 50. Then Elecraft is going to > come out with a hardware mod that applies only to units with SN < > 100. Pretty unlikely for units a few numbers apart, but there IS a > point to having specific numbers associated with specific hardware. > > I wonder if the SN is programmed into the P3 firmware like it is in > the K3? > > 73 > -- > Joe KB8AP > > On Aug 10, 2010, at 9:08 AM, ny9h wrote: > >> my P3 sn # is one off from my radio #44 #@#%$#@^%$.... >> >> whomever got # 44 would ya swap labels sn for # 43 ???? >> >> tnx for the trivial waste of everyone 's time >> >> bill > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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<snip> because they want the band scope built in or some thing else.
>>So, I've said more than my peace. Elecraft if you ever build a larger case count me In. Yes, I'd have one.. I miss the scope on the front of my 756pro2. Well, I don't actually as it sits next to the K3. :-) but I sure would love a larger K3. 73, Andy http://gd0tep.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Dave,
Joe does make a good point about the $99 price of such a device. And the stick and small pad offered by X-Keys does seem to offer a possible solution to those wanting to add macro and general function buttons to their K3. The roadblock for me and probably many others would be how to integrate the device into your Mac/DigiKeyer, my PC/WriteLog, another person's PC/MiwW, etc.. Hopefully a computer savvy person will have a go at it and make the solution available to others. 73, Mike K2MK
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It is not.
Dick, K6KR > I wonder if the SN is programmed into the P3 firmware like it is in the K3? ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Please avoid the temptation to swap serial numbers. It really drives us crazy on support at this end. We also can not offer custom serial numbers for the same reason.
73, Eric WA6HHQ www.elecraft.com _..._ On Aug 10, 2010, at 9:27 AM, Joe Planisky <[hidden email]> wrote: > You know, sooner or later this practice is going to backfire. Someone > is going to swap, say, SN 150 for SN 50. Then Elecraft is going to > come out with a hardware mod that applies only to units with SN < > 100. Pretty unlikely for units a few numbers apart, but there IS a > point to having specific numbers associated with specific hardware. > > I wonder if the SN is programmed into the P3 firmware like it is in > the K3? > > 73 > -- > Joe KB8AP > > On Aug 10, 2010, at 9:08 AM, ny9h wrote: > >> my P3 sn # is one off from my radio #44 #@#%$#@^%$.... >> >> whomever got # 44 would ya swap labels sn for # 43 ???? >> >> tnx for the trivial waste of everyone 's time >> >> bill > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Reading this duscussion brings to mind possible magazine
headlines: QST: "Elecraft builds a Big Front Panel K3!" Car and Driver: "We drive the new Ferrari Motorhome!" Flying: "Meet the new Cessna Jumbo Jet!" MacUser: "First look: The Apple Refrigerator Freezer!" My 57 year old bi-focal assisted eyes and arthritis riddled fingers can work the existing panel just fine, thank you very much... And after this weekend's NAQP, where I watched a partner schelpp his Yaesu 1000MP, draging it into the shack and lifting it up to the table, then puting it back into a car at 2am, that is, after watching the other guys move the ICOM 7700 that was on the table originally before the contest and then putting it back on that table at 2am, Im SOOOO happy to own a K3! -lu-w4lt- K3 S# 3192 Message: 19 Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 18:09:06 -0000 From: "GD0TEP" <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Big Box K-3 To: "'elecraft'" <[hidden email]> Message-ID: <032401cb38b7$200a2ee0$601e8ca0$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" <snip> because they want the band scope built in or some thing else. >>So, I've said more than my peace. Elecraft if you ever build a larger case count me In. Yes, I'd have one.. I miss the scope on the front of my 756pro2. Well, I don't actually as it sits next to the K3. :-) but I sure would love a larger K3. 73, Andy http://gd0tep.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Lu,
You know you really should not smile so much at 2AM, it can be heartbreaking for some. (Not to even mention a back or two?) Grin Gary On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Lu Romero <[hidden email]> wrote: > Reading this duscussion brings to mind possible magazine > headlines: > > QST: "Elecraft builds a Big Front Panel K3!" > > Car and Driver: "We drive the new Ferrari Motorhome!" > > Flying: "Meet the new Cessna Jumbo Jet!" > > MacUser: "First look: The Apple Refrigerator Freezer!" > > My 57 year old bi-focal assisted eyes and arthritis riddled > fingers can work the existing panel just fine, thank you > very much... > > And after this weekend's NAQP, where I watched a partner > schelpp his Yaesu 1000MP, draging it into the shack and > lifting it up to the table, then puting it back into a car > at 2am, that is, after watching the other guys move the ICOM > 7700 that was on the table originally before the contest and > then putting it back on that table at 2am, Im SOOOO happy > to own a K3! > > -lu-w4lt- > K3 S# 3192 > > > Message: 19 > Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 18:09:06 -0000 > From: "GD0TEP" <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Big Box K-3 > To: "'elecraft'" <[hidden email]> > Message-ID: <032401cb38b7$200a2ee0$601e8ca0$@net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > <snip> because they want the band scope built in or some > thing else. > > >>So, I've said more than my peace. Elecraft if you ever > build a larger case > count me In. > > Yes, I'd have one.. I miss the scope on the front of my > 756pro2. Well, I > don't actually as it sits next to the K3. :-) but I sure > would love a larger > K3. > > > 73, > Andy > http://gd0tep.com > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > -- Gary VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile http://www.qsl.net/vk4fd/ K3 #679 For everything else there's Mastercard!!! ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
Re: Scratchpad Memories (Was: Big Box K-3)
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For those who miss the ability of some transceivers to store/recall multiple frequencies on the current band, here is a quick set of macros that will allow M1 - M4 to be used to save/recall up to four frequency/mode settings in a single key function. Hold M1 - M4 stores the settings, Tap M1 - M4 recalls the memory: Tap M1 Recall 1 SWT23;SWT21; Tap M2 Recall 2 SWT23;SWT31; Tap M3 Recall 3 SWT23;SWT35; Tap M4 Recall 4 SWT23;SWT39; Hold M1 Save 1 SWT15;SWT21; Hold M2 Save 2 SWT15;SWT31; Hold M4 Save 3 SWT15;SWT35; Hold M4 Save 4 SWT15;SWT39; This only avoids the need to press M>V to recall and V>M to save the memories and is not applicable if the DVK is used as it prevents access to the DVK. However, for those who do not use the DVK it may make life easier for guest operators. 73, ... Joe, W4TV ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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