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w0mu

Bluetooth adapter for K3 Audio

I have just joined the ranks of hearing aid wearers.

Has anyone found a good bluetooth device that I could plug into the
headphone jack?

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Phil Kane-2

Re: Bluetooth adapter for K3 Audio

On 4/29/2014 10:30 AM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:

> Has anyone found a good bluetooth device that I could plug into the
> headphone jack?

Check with your audiologist to see if there is a device for your aids
that is used to couple to a cellphone and is worn around your neck.
Most of them have a 3.5 mm jack for an external audio source such as the
radio. That's what I use - but it's necessary to recharge it overnight.
Make sure that the device is not "VOX" operated - that can drive you
nuts if the audio stream is not continuous.

Welcome to the "user group". :)
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Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT

Re: Bluetooth adapter for K3 Audio

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In addition to the bluetooth adapter for your phone (worn around your
neck -- short range so your hearing aid batteries last more than 15
minutes) they have devices to plug into a TV or something like that to
feed audio into your aids.

Of course that works fine for any audio source, not just a TV.

On 4/29/2014 10:30 AM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:
> I have just joined the ranks of hearing aid wearers.
>
> Has anyone found a good bluetooth device that I could plug into the
> headphone jack?
>

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Jim Brown-10

Re: Bluetooth adapter for K3 Audio

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On 4/29/2014 11:03 AM, Phil Kane wrote:
> Check with your audiologist to see if there is a device for your aids
> that is used to couple to a cellphone and is worn around your neck.

These are available from companies that make radio and infrared systems
for the hearing impaired for public spaces. When I was designing and
specifying these systems, I used Comtek for RF and Sennheiser for IR.
Comtek is near Salt Lake City. See the NTC-102 on this page.
http://comtek.com/earphones/ It comes with a 1/8-in plug, probably
2-conductor(tip-shield). You will need to change the plug to a
3-conductor plug (tip-ring-shield).

73, Jim K9YC
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w0mu

Re: Bluetooth adapter for K3 Audio

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I should have been clearer.

I have the remote control that interfaces with my phone and other
bluetooth devices. I also have the TV adapter.

I would assume...........a bad thing...........that there are devices
that will take the K3 audio out and send it via bluetooth to my remote
and then to my ears.

I have not looked on Amazon or other places.

Mike W0MU

On 4/29/2014 12:26 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote:

> In addition to the bluetooth adapter for your phone (worn around your
> neck -- short range so your hearing aid batteries last more than 15
> minutes) they have devices to plug into a TV or something like that to
> feed audio into your aids.
>
> Of course that works fine for any audio source, not just a TV.
>
> On 4/29/2014 10:30 AM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:
>> I have just joined the ranks of hearing aid wearers.
>>
>> Has anyone found a good bluetooth device that I could plug into the
>> headphone jack?
>>
>
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Jim Brown-10

Re: Bluetooth adapter for K3 Audio

On 4/29/2014 11:36 AM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:
> I would assume...........a bad thing...........that there are devices
> that will take the K3 audio out and send it via bluetooth to my remote
> and then to my ears.

The K3 puts out a volt or two, which is comparable to most consumer
devices. A Bluetooth device that works with consumer gear would also
work with a K3. The only thing to be concerned about is RFI, and if
there are no wires attached to act as a receiving antenna, or if they
are very short, I wouldn't expect problems.

One caveat about my earlier response to Phil Kane's post about the neck
loop. This works by generating a magnetic field, which couples into a
magnetic loop in the hearing aid IF it has one. Not all hearing aids do.

W6OAT likes the hearing aid he got from Costco, which has a jack for a
standard 1/8-in cable to plug into a radio. He says it works fine with
his K3.

73, Jim K9YC

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w0mu

Re: Bluetooth adapter for K3 Audio

I got mine from Costco too. It does have the jack on the bottom of the
remote for cable. I was would like to be untethered so to speak.

I see Belkin and others make something that would probably work.

I figured I can't be the first guy to try this.

Mike W0MU

On 4/29/2014 12:46 PM, Jim Brown wrote:

> On 4/29/2014 11:36 AM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:
>> I would assume...........a bad thing...........that there are devices
>> that will take the K3 audio out and send it via bluetooth to my
>> remote and then to my ears.
>
> The K3 puts out a volt or two, which is comparable to most consumer
> devices. A Bluetooth device that works with consumer gear would also
> work with a K3. The only thing to be concerned about is RFI, and if
> there are no wires attached to act as a receiving antenna, or if they
> are very short, I wouldn't expect problems.
>
> One caveat about my earlier response to Phil Kane's post about the
> neck loop. This works by generating a magnetic field, which couples
> into a magnetic loop in the hearing aid IF it has one. Not all hearing
> aids do.
>
> W6OAT likes the hearing aid he got from Costco, which has a jack for a
> standard 1/8-in cable to plug into a radio. He says it works fine with
> his K3.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
>
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'DGB'

Re: Bluetooth adapter for K3 Audio

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If you have the brand Phonak, which I do, the Com Pilot designed for it
is fantastic.

73 Dwight NS9I

On 4/29/2014 12:30 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:
> I have just joined the ranks of hearing aid wearers.
>
> Has anyone found a good bluetooth device that I could plug into the
> headphone jack?
>

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Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT

Re: Bluetooth adapter for K3 Audio

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On 4/29/2014 11:36 AM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:
> I would assume...........a bad thing...........that there are devices
> that will take the K3 audio out and send it via bluetooth to my remote
> and then to my ears.
Yes, the TV adapter.
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w0mu

Re: Bluetooth adapter for K3 Audio

That would work. They want $150.00 for another one. That one has an
optical input so it probably has better sound available over the
bluetooth boxes I see for around 20 bucks.

Mike W0MU

On 4/29/2014 1:26 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote:

> On 4/29/2014 11:36 AM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:
>> I would assume...........a bad thing...........that there are devices
>> that will take the K3 audio out and send it via bluetooth to my
>> remote and then to my ears.
> Yes, the TV adapter.
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Jim Brown-10

Re: Bluetooth adapter for K3 Audio

On 4/29/2014 12:34 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:
> They want $150.00 for another one.

The Comtek magnetic neck loop should be $30 or less.

If a hearing aid has an input jack for consumer products, like a TV,
stereo set, portable CD player, portable radio, it should work just fine
with a K3 nothing more than a patch cable with the right plugs on both
ends. Ditto for a Blue Tooth to carry audio between two units.

73, Jim K9YC
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Phil Kane-2

Re: Bluetooth adapter for K3 Audio

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On 4/29/2014 11:49 AM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:

> I got mine from Costco too. It does have the jack on the bottom of the
> remote for cable. I was would like to be untethered so to speak.

I don't have one, but doesn't the TV Adapter provide for this?

> I see Belkin and others make something that would probably work.
> I figured I can't be the first guy to try this.

I remember trying something like that (a BT transmitter) and the battery
life was very short if used in continuous mode.
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Phil Kane-2

Re: Bluetooth adapter for K3 Audio

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On 4/29/2014 12:18 PM, DGB wrote:
> If you have the brand Phonak, which I do, the Com Pilot designed for it
> is fantastic.

That's the one that I use.
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Bill Steffey NY9H

Re: Bluetooth adapter for K3 Audio

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I just ordered and received a second BT transmitter....

the first one was labeled " iclever IC-btt01 and has fcc and ce markings...
at amazon for abt 35$....

the second one I just got is no brand no fcc ce markings.. part # btt005
and the envelope came from Israel ...
"looks" to be the same device

the little iclever thing worked great with my kx3.....
I have yet to try the new unbranded one which was 25$ incl shipping..

bill
ny9h/3

At 01:30 PM 4/29/2014, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:

>I have just joined the ranks of hearing aid wearers.
>
>Has anyone found a good bluetooth device that I could plug into the
>headphone jack?
>
>--
>Mike W0MU
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Dr. William J. Schmidt, II

Re: Bluetooth adapter for K3 Audio

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Interesting... I went through this a few years ago trying to develop a set
of headphones that I could use wirelessly to work in my electronics lab yet
still talk on the radio. What I landed on is something interesting made by
Jabra... model #A210... it's a transceiver that can be plugged into the K3
or any other radio (both microphone and speaker jacks)... and then at the
human end... use any of their headsets/ ears-et combinations (and yes they
do make earbuds). What I got was 2 way transmission from my headset to my
radio (so that I can use my headset on VOX). Now of course you can use it
one way too for receive. They even make a transceiver for the other end so
you can plug in any headset/ mic boomset you like.

Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ / J68HZ/ 8P6HK/ ZF2HZ

Owner - Operator
Big Signal Ranch
Staunton, Illinois

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Subject: [Elecraft] Bluetooth adapter for K3 Audio

I have just joined the ranks of hearing aid wearers.

Has anyone found a good bluetooth device that I could plug into the
headphone jack?

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Mike W0MU

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JHRichards

Re: Bluetooth adapter for K3 Audio

Does it have to be Bluetooth? Some operators with hearing
loss have good results with various wireless headphones.
My wife gets good results with Sennheiser gear. Sometimes
using a pair of 30 dB passive noise cancelling cans will
cut outside noise to a point where she can adequately hear
the intended signal.

----------------- K8JHR --------------------

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
W0MU
> Mike Fatchett

> I have just joined the ranks of hearing aid wearers.

> Has anyone found a good bluetooth device that I could plug into the
> headphone jack?

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w0mu

Re: Bluetooth adapter for K3 Audio

The reason I was looking for this is because I already have the hearing
aids in. With the bluetooth my remote control will feed the K3 signals
right into my hearing aids. No wires etc. I can wear headphones
without any issues whatsoever. The remote control allows me to change
the volume of my hearing aids, change noise reduction, quality programs
and listen to the TV device and answer my cell phone. The TV and cell
phone are linked via bluetooth to the remote. The remote then transmits
the audio to the hearing aids over a 2.4 ghz signal path.

My hearing loss is the upper part of the voice range. I can still hear,
but I have a tough time with noisy rooms, restaurants and have been
saying what too much and the tv is too loud. The hearing aids I have
will transpose the frequencies that I don't hear well to lower
frequencies or simply attempt to amplify the lost range. My lower range
is above normal.

These new hearing aids are pretty amazing.

Mike W0MU

On 4/29/2014 9:43 PM, K8JHR wrote:

> Does it have to be Bluetooth? Some operators with hearing
> loss have good results with various wireless headphones.
> My wife gets good results with Sennheiser gear. Sometimes
> using a pair of 30 dB passive noise cancelling cans will
> cut outside noise to a point where she can adequately hear
> the intended signal.
>
> ----------------- K8JHR --------------------
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
> W0MU
>> Mike Fatchett
>
>> I have just joined the ranks of hearing aid wearers.
>
>> Has anyone found a good bluetooth device that I could plug into the
>> headphone jack?
>
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