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Dick Frey

Button of no return

I was on 160m in the Tune mode on my K3. I accidently hit the Power
button to exit. The display went blank. Now nothing works. Removing
power and restart with
Power button gets the blank screen.

Turning it on with the Shift/LO knob depressed brings up the meter and
bandwidth legends and EE INIT but mutiple pressing of the DISP button
have no effect.

I tried reloading MCU but the K3 utility cannot connect to the K3 -
just keeps trying different speeds.

Help!

Dick, K4xu

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Stewart@twinwood

Re: Button of no return

If this is the case, then surely it is something that can be easily addressed in
the F/W.

i.e. if the TUNE function (or any other critical function) is taking place,
ignore presses of the Power button.

Of course, this may not help if the PowerPole connector falls out !

73
Stewart G3RXQ

On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 21:53:31 -0700, Dick Frey wrote:

> I was on 160m in the Tune mode on my K3. I accidently hit the Power
> button to exit. The display went blank. Now nothing works. Removing
> power and restart with
> Power button gets the blank screen.
>
> Turning it on with the Shift/LO knob depressed brings up the meter and
> bandwidth legends and EE INIT but mutiple pressing of the DISP button
> have no effect.
>
> I tried reloading MCU but the K3 utility cannot connect to the K3 -
> just keeps trying different speeds.
>
> Help!
>
> Dick, K4xu

Bill-3

Re: Button of no return

Yes - the dreaded Power Pole plug fall out! I have had them fall out
with only the slightest of movement (factory installed). Temporary
solution is to cable tie the red/black lines to the antenna cables -
thus supporting them and preventing movement. The final fix will be the
removal of the Power Pole system completely, later this spring.

Bill W2BLC

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Mike K2MK

Re: Button of no return

In reply to this post by Stewart@twinwood

Hi Stewart,

There may be a firmware solution to prevent this problem but I don't think it advisable to ever ignore the power button. The Power Button is like an Emergency Stop button. It needs to be 100% reliable.

73,
Mike K2MK

Stewart@twinwood wrote

If this is the case, then surely it is something that can be easily addressed in
the F/W.

i.e. if the TUNE function (or any other critical function) is taking place,
ignore presses of the Power button.

Of course, this may not help if the PowerPole connector falls out !

73
Stewart G3RXQ

Roger D Johnson

Re: Button of no return

In reply to this post by Bill-3

Careful, Bill. You're about to be flamed by the Power Pole Police! You know, those
that insist that insist that it takes 2700 lbs of force to disconnect PPs or
that you, in
your stupidity, have assembled the connectors improperly!

I've had them come apart several times when futzing around the back of my desk
sending my K3 into never-never land!

73, Roger

On 3/13/2014 7:08 AM, Bill W2BLC wrote:

> Yes - the dreaded Power Pole plug fall out! I have had them fall out with
> only the slightest of movement (factory installed). Temporary solution is to
> cable tie the red/black lines to the antenna cables - thus supporting them and
> preventing movement. The final fix will be the removal of the Power Pole
> system completely, later this spring.
>
> Bill W2BLC
>
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Jack Brabham

Re: Button of no return

In reply to this post by Bill-3

I'm one of those that considers the PowerPole connector on my K3 to be a
PITA. Is there something afoot to replace it? I've considered ways
to replace it but haven't come up with anything that seems reasonable yet.

73 Jack KZ5A

On 3/13/2014 6:08 AM, Bill W2BLC wrote:

> Yes - the dreaded Power Pole plug fall out! I have had them fall out
> with only the slightest of movement (factory installed). Temporary
> solution is to cable tie the red/black lines to the antenna cables -
> thus supporting them and preventing movement. The final fix will be
> the removal of the Power Pole system completely, later this spring.
>
> Bill W2BLC
>
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Charlie T, K3ICH

Re: Button of no return

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Well, I'll don my asbestos suit and dump on the power poles.

They're too flimsy, over-rated, over priced, non-re-useable, non-standard
( red on the right or it is?? You cannot plug in any of the Molex or later
connectors such that the polarity is reversed and you don't need a $40
crimper to install them.)

I use power poles ONLY when they can't be avoided.

73, Charlie k3ICH

----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger D Johnson" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 7:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Button of no return

> Careful, Bill. You're about to be flamed by the Power Pole Police! You
> know, those
> that insist that insist that it takes 2700 lbs of force to disconnect PPs
> or that you, in
> your stupidity, have assembled the connectors improperly!
>
> I've had them come apart several times when futzing around the back of my
> desk
> sending my K3 into never-never land!
>
> 73, Roger
>
>

Mike Harris-9

Re: Button of no return

Not a flame just a simple power pole observation.

Never had a problem, never fallen out (K2, K3, XV50) even when tugging
units around, soldered not crimped, no $40. crimper, not colour blind so
arranged the cable and connectors to match the equipment.

Each to his own I guess.

Regards,

Mike VP8NO

On 13/03/2014 09:51, Charlie T, K3ICH wrote:

> Well, I'll don my asbestos suit and dump on the power poles.
>
> They're too flimsy, over-rated, over priced, non-re-useable,
> non-standard ( red on the right or it is?? You cannot plug in any of
> the Molex or later connectors such that the polarity is reversed and you
> don't need a $40 crimper to install them.)
>
> I use power poles ONLY when they can't be avoided.
>
> 73, Charlie k3ICH

Roger D Johnson

Re: Button of no return

I do not dislike Power Poles and use them for many cords around my station. The
problem is that
my K3 is fed from the power supply using large (stiff) diameter conductors.
Brushing up against
these can cause them to disconnect from the K3. If the K3 is powered up, this
can result in the K3
going off to never-never land which requires a special, and not well documented,
procedure to
get it running again. I think the K3 needs a better connector here.

73, Roger

On 3/13/2014 9:52 AM, Mike Harris wrote:

> Not a flame just a simple power pole observation.
>
> Never had a problem, never fallen out (K2, K3, XV50) even when tugging units
> around, soldered not crimped, no $40. crimper, not colour blind so arranged
> the cable and connectors to match the equipment.
>
> Each to his own I guess.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike VP8NO
>
>

Mike Harris-9

Re: Button of no return

I use a somewhat larger diameter than supplied cable to my K3 with a
four inch or so piece of the supplied cable with the PP's in line
crimped to it using vehicle cabling crimps. Provides flexibility at the
K3 without adding any significant extra IR loss.

Regards,

Mike VP8NO

On 13/03/2014 11:21, Roger D Johnson wrote:

> I do not dislike Power Poles and use them for many cords around my
> station. The problem is that
> my K3 is fed from the power supply using large (stiff) diameter
> conductors. Brushing up against
> these can cause them to disconnect from the K3. If the K3 is powered up,
> this can result in the K3
> going off to never-never land which requires a special, and not well
> documented, procedure to
> get it running again. I think the K3 needs a better connector here.
>
> 73, Roger
>
>
> On 3/13/2014 9:52 AM, Mike Harris wrote:
>> Not a flame just a simple power pole observation.
>>
>> Never had a problem, never fallen out (K2, K3, XV50) even when tugging
>> units around, soldered not crimped, no $40. crimper, not colour blind
>> so arranged the cable and connectors to match the equipment.
>>
>> Each to his own I guess.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Mike VP8NO
>>
>>
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W1KSZ

Re: Button of no return

You can get an ultra-flexible 10 ga wire that audio folks use for speaker
connections (I got a 200' roll off the "evil empire"). Much better than the
standard stranded wire.

73, Dick, W1KSZ

On 3/13/2014 8:05 AM, Mike Harris wrote:

> I use a somewhat larger diameter than supplied cable to my K3 with a
> four inch or so piece of the supplied cable with the PP's in line
> crimped to it using vehicle cabling crimps. Provides flexibility at
> the K3 without adding any significant extra IR loss.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike VP8NO
>
> On 13/03/2014 11:21, Roger D Johnson wrote:
>> I do not dislike Power Poles and use them for many cords around my
>> station. The problem is that
>> my K3 is fed from the power supply using large (stiff) diameter
>> conductors. Brushing up against
>> these can cause them to disconnect from the K3. If the K3 is powered up,
>> this can result in the K3
>> going off to never-never land which requires a special, and not well
>> documented, procedure to
>> get it running again. I think the K3 needs a better connector here.
>>
>> 73, Roger
>>
>>
>> On 3/13/2014 9:52 AM, Mike Harris wrote:
>>> Not a flame just a simple power pole observation.
>>>
>>> Never had a problem, never fallen out (K2, K3, XV50) even when tugging
>>> units around, soldered not crimped, no $40. crimper, not colour blind
>>> so arranged the cable and connectors to match the equipment.
>>>
>>> Each to his own I guess.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Mike VP8NO
>>>
>>>
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W1KSZ

Re: Button of no return

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A blast from the past, look at GR Binding Posts.

73, Dick, W1KSZ

On 3/13/2014 4:47 AM, Roger D Johnson wrote:

> Careful, Bill. You're about to be flamed by the Power Pole Police! You
> know, those
> that insist that insist that it takes 2700 lbs of force to disconnect
> PPs or that you, in
> your stupidity, have assembled the connectors improperly!
>
> I've had them come apart several times when futzing around the back of
> my desk
> sending my K3 into never-never land!
>
> 73, Roger
>
>
> On 3/13/2014 7:08 AM, Bill W2BLC wrote:
>> Yes - the dreaded Power Pole plug fall out! I have had them fall out
>> with only the slightest of movement (factory installed). Temporary
>> solution is to cable tie the red/black lines to the antenna cables -
>> thus supporting them and preventing movement. The final fix will be
>> the removal of the Power Pole system completely, later this spring.
>>
>> Bill W2BLC
>>
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wa4ta

Re: Button of no return

In reply to this post by Mike Harris-9

I am surprised no-one mentioned this.
You can buy retention clips if you have issues with disconnects: Anderson part # 110G68
They cost about 50 cents.
Can we drop this subject now? it has been re-hashed many times.
73 - Tom - wa4ta

> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 12:05:49 -0300
> From: [hidden email]
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Button of no return
>
> I use a somewhat larger diameter than supplied cable to my K3 with a
> four inch or so piece of the supplied cable with the PP's in line
> crimped to it using vehicle cabling crimps. Provides flexibility at the
> K3 without adding any significant extra IR loss.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike VP8NO
>
> On 13/03/2014 11:21, Roger D Johnson wrote:
> > I do not dislike Power Poles and use them for many cords around my
> > station. The problem is that
> > my K3 is fed from the power supply using large (stiff) diameter
> > conductors. Brushing up against
> > these can cause them to disconnect from the K3. If the K3 is powered up,
> > this can result in the K3
> > going off to never-never land which requires a special, and not well
> > documented, procedure to
> > get it running again. I think the K3 needs a better connector here.
> >
> > 73, Roger
> >
> >
> > On 3/13/2014 9:52 AM, Mike Harris wrote:
> >> Not a flame just a simple power pole observation.
> >>
> >> Never had a problem, never fallen out (K2, K3, XV50) even when tugging
> >> units around, soldered not crimped, no $40. crimper, not colour blind
> >> so arranged the cable and connectors to match the equipment.
> >>
> >> Each to his own I guess.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Mike VP8NO
> >>
> >>
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Roger D Johnson

Re: Button of no return

Have YOU used one of these on a K3? I don't see any way to do it
without cutting away some of the rear panel.

73, Roger

On 3/13/2014 12:14 PM, tom armour wrote:

> I am surprised no-one mentioned this.
> You can buy retention clips if you have issues with disconnects: Anderson part # 110G68
> They cost about 50 cents.
> Can we drop this subject now? it has been re-hashed many times.
> 73 - Tom - wa4ta
>
>> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 12:05:49 -0300
>> From: [hidden email]
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Button of no return
>>
>> I use a somewhat larger diameter than supplied cable to my K3 with a
>> four inch or so piece of the supplied cable with the PP's in line
>> crimped to it using vehicle cabling crimps. Provides flexibility at the
>> K3 without adding any significant extra IR loss.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Mike VP8NO
>>
>> On 13/03/2014 11:21, Roger D Johnson wrote:
>>> I do not dislike Power Poles and use them for many cords around my
>>> station. The problem is that
>>> my K3 is fed from the power supply using large (stiff) diameter
>>> conductors. Brushing up against
>>> these can cause them to disconnect from the K3. If the K3 is powered up,
>>> this can result in the K3
>>> going off to never-never land which requires a special, and not well
>>> documented, procedure to
>>> get it running again. I think the K3 needs a better connector here.
>>>
>>> 73, Roger
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/13/2014 9:52 AM, Mike Harris wrote:
>>>> Not a flame just a simple power pole observation.
>>>>
>>>> Never had a problem, never fallen out (K2, K3, XV50) even when tugging
>>>> units around, soldered not crimped, no $40. crimper, not colour blind
>>>> so arranged the cable and connectors to match the equipment.
>>>>
>>>> Each to his own I guess.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Mike VP8NO
>>>>
>>>>
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Phil Wheeler-2

Re: Button of no return

In reply to this post by Stewart@twinwood

Agree re firmware fix if possible. Accidental
button pushes do happen.

I guess the two-button approach on the KX3
precludes this particular disaster :-)

73, Phil w7ox

On 3/13/14, 1:28 AM, Stewart wrote:

> If this is the case, then surely it is something that can be easily addressed in
> the F/W.
>
> i.e. if the TUNE function (or any other critical function) is taking place,
> ignore presses of the Power button.
>
> Of course, this may not help if the PowerPole connector falls out !
>
> 73
> Stewart G3RXQ
>
> On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 21:53:31 -0700, Dick Frey wrote:
>> I was on 160m in the Tune mode on my K3. I accidently hit the Power
>> button to exit. The display went blank. Now nothing works. Removing
>> power and restart with
>> Power button gets the blank screen.
>>
>> Turning it on with the Shift/LO knob depressed brings up the meter and
>> bandwidth legends and EE INIT but mutiple pressing of the DISP button
>> have no effect.
>>
>> I tried reloading MCU but the K3 utility cannot connect to the K3 -
>> just keeps trying different speeds.
>>
>> Help!
>>
>> Dick, K4xu
>

Roger D Johnson

Re: Button of no return

In reply to this post by Roger D Johnson

Page 63 of the manual. if you have anything on the ACC connector it must be
removed for this to work.

On 3/13/2014 11:15 AM, [hidden email] wrote:

> Can you tell me where to find the "procedure" just in case?
>
> 73 De Brian W3BW
>
>
> Brian F. Wruble, C.F.A.
>
> "Leap and the net will appear."
>
>> On Mar 13, 2014, at 10:21 AM, Roger D Johnson<[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> I do not dislike Power Poles and use them for many cords around my station. The problem is that
>> my K3 is fed from the power supply using large (stiff) diameter conductors. Brushing up against
>> these can cause them to disconnect from the K3. If the K3 is powered up, this can result in the K3
>> going off to never-never land which requires a special, and not well documented, procedure to
>> get it running again. I think the K3 needs a better connector here.
>>
>> 73, Roger
>>
>>
>>> On 3/13/2014 9:52 AM, Mike Harris wrote:
>>> Not a flame just a simple power pole observation.
>>>
>>> Never had a problem, never fallen out (K2, K3, XV50) even when tugging units around, soldered not crimped, no $40. crimper, not colour blind so arranged the cable and connectors to match the equipment.
>>>
>>> Each to his own I guess.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Mike VP8NO
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Joe Subich, W4TV-4

Re: Button of no return

In reply to this post by W1KSZ

On 3/13/2014 11:15 AM, Richard Solomon wrote:
> You can get an ultra-flexible 10 ga wire that audio folks use for speaker
> connections (I got a 200' roll off the "evil empire"). Much better than the
> standard stranded wire.
>
> 73, Dick, W1KSZ

Why bother? The difference in resistance between #12 and #10 is less
than 0.5 Ohm per 1000 feet. For a typical six foot power cord that's
takes the resistance in the wire from 0.01 Ohm (1/100 th of an Ohm)
down to about 0.006 (6 milli-Ohms). The problem isn't in the resistance
of the wire - the resistance in the silly PowerPoles is 10 times the
resistance on the wire *if the Power Poles are assembled correctly*.
High current Molex connectors are marginally better, particularly if
multiple pins are connected in parallel.

It's high time that transceiver manufacturers start using high voltage
final transistors to reduce both the current and IMD as well as go back
to nice heavy 1/4" bolts (studs) for the high current connections.
PowerPole and Molex connectors may be nice if one is playing with QRP
current levels but they just don't cut it at 10 to 25 amps. The high
current, "hot plug" power supplies use multiple contacts to keep the
resistance (and heat, losses) in connectors down.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

>
>
> On 3/13/2014 8:05 AM, Mike Harris wrote:
>> I use a somewhat larger diameter than supplied cable to my K3 with a
>> four inch or so piece of the supplied cable with the PP's in line
>> crimped to it using vehicle cabling crimps. Provides flexibility at
>> the K3 without adding any significant extra IR loss.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Mike VP8NO
>>
>> On 13/03/2014 11:21, Roger D Johnson wrote:
>>> I do not dislike Power Poles and use them for many cords around my
>>> station. The problem is that
>>> my K3 is fed from the power supply using large (stiff) diameter
>>> conductors. Brushing up against
>>> these can cause them to disconnect from the K3. If the K3 is powered up,
>>> this can result in the K3
>>> going off to never-never land which requires a special, and not well
>>> documented, procedure to
>>> get it running again. I think the K3 needs a better connector here.
>>>
>>> 73, Roger
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/13/2014 9:52 AM, Mike Harris wrote:
>>>> Not a flame just a simple power pole observation.
>>>>
>>>> Never had a problem, never fallen out (K2, K3, XV50) even when tugging
>>>> units around, soldered not crimped, no $40. crimper, not colour blind
>>>> so arranged the cable and connectors to match the equipment.
>>>>
>>>> Each to his own I guess.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Mike VP8NO
>>>>
>>>>
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Stewart@twinwood

Re: Button of no return

In reply to this post by Phil Wheeler-2

I think that I would be rather miffed, if in the middle of a contest or worse an
expensive DXpedition the power went off (PowerPole or not) and I found the K3
software settings corrupted.

Most early computers monitored the power rails and shut down gracefully.

73
Stewart G3RXQ

On Thu, 13 Mar 2014 09:22:16 -0700, Phil Wheeler wrote:

> Agree re firmware fix if possible. Accidental
> button pushes do happen.
>
> I guess the two-button approach on the KX3
> precludes this particular disaster :-)
>
> 73, Phil w7ox
>
> On 3/13/14, 1:28 AM, Stewart wrote:
>> If this is the case, then surely it is something that can be easily addressed

>> the F/W.
>>
>> i.e. if the TUNE function (or any other critical function) is taking place,
>> ignore presses of the Power button.
>>
>> Of course, this may not help if the PowerPole connector falls out !
>>
>> 73
>> Stewart G3RXQ
>>
>> On Wed, 12 Mar 2014 21:53:31 -0700, Dick Frey wrote:
>>> I was on 160m in the Tune mode on my K3. I accidently hit the Power
>>> button to exit. The display went blank. Now nothing works. Removing
>>> power and restart with
>>> Power button gets the blank screen.
>>>
>>> Turning it on with the Shift/LO knob depressed brings up the meter and
>>> bandwidth legends and EE INIT but mutiple pressing of the DISP button
>>> have no effect.
>>>
>>> I tried reloading MCU but the K3 utility cannot connect to the K3 -
>>> just keeps trying different speeds.
>>>
>>> Help!
>>>
>>> Dick, K4xu
>>
>
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Re: Button of no return

In reply to this post by Mike Harris-9

Also, have had no problems and I install on all of the equipment I have. I
had more than my fair share of Molex issues. I prefer the Power pole and do
not solder... I think that stresses the connections. No Flames Please.

Bill

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Button of no return

Not a flame just a simple power pole observation.

Never had a problem, never fallen out (K2, K3, XV50) even when tugging units
around, soldered not crimped, no $40. crimper, not colour blind so arranged
the cable and connectors to match the equipment.

Each to his own I guess.

Regards,

Mike VP8NO

On 13/03/2014 09:51, Charlie T, K3ICH wrote:

> Well, I'll don my asbestos suit and dump on the power poles.
>
> They're too flimsy, over-rated, over priced, non-re-useable,
> non-standard ( red on the right or it is?? You cannot plug in any of
> the Molex or later connectors such that the polarity is reversed and
> you don't need a $40 crimper to install them.)
>
> I use power poles ONLY when they can't be avoided.
>
> 73, Charlie k3ICH

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> On Mar 13, 2014, at 2:55 PM, Bill K9YEQ <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Also, have had no problems and I install on all of the equipment I have. I
> had more than my fair share of Molex issues. I prefer the Power pole and do
> not solder... I think that stresses the connections. No Flames Please.
>
> Bill
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Mike Harris
> Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 8:52 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Button of no return
>
> Not a flame just a simple power pole observation.
>
> Never had a problem, never fallen out (K2, K3, XV50) even when tugging units
> around, soldered not crimped, no $40. crimper, not colour blind so arranged
> the cable and connectors to match the equipment.
>
> Each to his own I guess.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike VP8NO
>
>> On 13/03/2014 09:51, Charlie T, K3ICH wrote:
>> Well, I'll don my asbestos suit and dump on the power poles.
>>
>> They're too flimsy, over-rated, over priced, non-re-useable,
>> non-standard ( red on the right or it is?? You cannot plug in any of
>> the Molex or later connectors such that the polarity is reversed and
>> you don't need a $40 crimper to install them.)
>>
>> I use power poles ONLY when they can't be avoided.
>>
>> 73, Charlie k3ICH
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