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I just cant let this pass without a comment. I still remember the weeks I spent as a teenager in the Boys Scouts learning the code. Then with pencil trying to copy code on the novice 40 meter band. Then the first time I realized I had copied a call sign. The first words I copied were "name is ...".
Today I have less respect for Extra Class operators who do not copy CW. It just seams they got their grade more cheaply than those of us who worked hard toward the 20 wpm in front of that freightening FCC Examiner. And I am not the world's best CW op, but it occupies 98% of my QSOs. These days I consider it the only art that remains in the hobby. CW FOREVER! K5WK Ken ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Ariel NY4G Sent from my iPhone On Nov 9, 2012, at 10:01 AM, "Kenneth Waites K5WK" <[hidden email]> wrote: > I just cant let this pass without a comment. I still remember the weeks I spent as a teenager in the Boys Scouts learning the code. Then with pencil trying to copy code on the novice 40 meter band. Then the first time I realized I had copied a call sign. The first words I copied were "name is ...". > > Today I have less respect for Extra Class operators who do not copy CW. It just seams they got their grade more cheaply than those of us who worked hard toward the 20 wpm in front of that freightening FCC Examiner. And I am not the world's best CW op, but it occupies 98% of my QSOs. > > These days I consider it the only art that remains in the hobby. CW FOREVER! > > K5WK Ken > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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That would be like someone telling you they have less respect for you because they understand how the DSP in your rig works better than you do, or that they have less respect for you because they know more about propagation than you do, or that they have less respect for you because they understand antenna and transmission theory better than you do ... all of which is probably true. I'm a 98% CW operator as well, but this CW bigotry is really old and stupid. Dave AB7E On 11/9/2012 7:01 AM, Kenneth Waites K5WK wrote: > I just cant let this pass without a comment. I still remember the weeks I spent as a teenager in the Boys Scouts learning the code. Then with pencil trying to copy code on the novice 40 meter band. Then the first time I realized I had copied a call sign. The first words I copied were "name is ...". > > Today I have less respect for Extra Class operators who do not copy CW. It just seams they got their grade more cheaply than those of us who worked hard toward the 20 wpm in front of that freightening FCC Examiner. And I am not the world's best CW op, but it occupies 98% of my QSOs. > > These days I consider it the only art that remains in the hobby. CW FOREVER! > > K5WK Ken ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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73, Eric List Modulator --- www.elecraft.com On 11/9/2012 6:01 AM, Kenneth Waites K5WK wrote: > I just cant let this pass without a comment. I still remember the weeks I spent as a teenager in the Boys Scouts learning the code. Then with pencil trying to copy code on the novice 40 meter band. Then the first time I realized I had copied a call sign. The first words I copied were "name is ...". > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Hello,
I am a "new" extra, and my first QSO ever was in CW. I've been a ham for seven weeks. Morse code for me is the essence of Radio. I don't remember how I found Elecraft on the web, but I was glad a company was making dedicated CW radios. I built my K1 and K2 before I had my license or had finishing learning code (self-patting on the back here, sorry…). I'm still slow as molasses, 7wpm copy speed, but I get better every day. I think the Extra exam should have a 5wpm requirement. Not everyone wants to use CW, but everyone should be able to copy it slowly. Imagine someone sending an SOS in Morse on a QRP rig somewhere isolated… If it was me, I'd hope someone would be able to copy it and not say "Hey, I hear morse code, cool!" 5wpm isn't much to ask to anyone using HF. The new rigs have decoders, but that's a small percentage. I don't have less respect for no-code extras, they didn't make the rules, but I certainly think they are missing a big chunk of what Ham Radio is. Doesn't Extra give access to mostly CW band segments? So, other than for bragging rights, why get the license then? For me, a shack is sort of gloomy and isolated. I've taken my K1 out and even set-up outside a coffee shop. Morse code and coffee under the sun :-) People asked questions (I told one guy I was calling the mothership, he looked up!), it was nice to be outside playing radio. The K1 and my Buddistick were perfect for that. You can't as easily do the same with a big SSB rig. Not only that, but CW with earplugs is quiet to everyone around. My set-up took one corner of my table, no big deal. That's why I love CW, you can do it anywhere with very little and small equipment. Now if only I could get up to 20wpm... Gil. -- PGP Key: http://keskydee.com/gil.asc On Nov 9, 2012, at 9:01 AM, Kenneth Waites K5WK wrote: > I just cant let this pass without a comment. I still remember the weeks I spent as a teenager in the Boys Scouts learning the code. Then with pencil trying to copy code on the novice 40 meter band. Then the first time I realized I had copied a call sign. The first words I copied were "name is ...". > > Today I have less respect for Extra Class operators who do not copy CW. It just seams they got their grade more cheaply than those of us who worked hard toward the 20 wpm in front of that freightening FCC Examiner. And I am not the world's best CW op, but it occupies 98% of my QSOs. > > These days I consider it the only art that remains in the hobby. CW FOREVER! > > K5WK ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I love CW and worked hard to get my extra class license back in the day. I'm proud of that accomplishment. I was qrt for many years but am back in and doing pretty good anywhere from 5 to 21wpm. CW is my primary mode but I do like to try all the digimodes. They are interesting and fun. I do like to dabble with all the tools to enhance the experience and improve my code skills. That includes, skimmer, multipsk, etc. I don't think there is anything wrong with using the tools. I think about it along the lines of how we have moved from tubes and discrete components to IC's and software defined radios, like used in the great Elecraft products. For our hobby to thrive and grow-amateur radio- and specifically CW, we need all comers. That includes folks who are using decoders to help them get in.
----- Original Message ----- From: David Gilbert [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 11:45 AM To: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW DECODING That would be like someone telling you they have less respect for you because they understand how the DSP in your rig works better than you do, or that they have less respect for you because they know more about propagation than you do, or that they have less respect for you because they understand antenna and transmission theory better than you do ... all of which is probably true. I'm a 98% CW operator as well, but this CW bigotry is really old and stupid. Dave AB7E On 11/9/2012 7:01 AM, Kenneth Waites K5WK wrote: > I just cant let this pass without a comment. I still remember the weeks I spent as a teenager in the Boys Scouts learning the code. Then with pencil trying to copy code on the novice 40 meter band. Then the first time I realized I had copied a call sign. The first words I copied were "name is ...". > > Today I have less respect for Extra Class operators who do not copy CW. It just seams they got their grade more cheaply than those of us who worked hard toward the 20 wpm in front of that freightening FCC Examiner. And I am not the world's best CW op, but it occupies 98% of my QSOs. > > These days I consider it the only art that remains in the hobby. CW FOREVER! > > K5WK Ken ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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