CW QRQ and SPLIT
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I saw in the manual of K3 that CW QRQ is "temporarily turned OFF" with SPLIT. Will be in the future any way to use it in SPLIT mode or is impossible? I usually use SPLIT when running to pick up calls few Hz up and down, like it instead of RIT because of the large knob of VFO A 73, Jorge CX6VM/CW5W ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Jorge,
listen using RX B and transmit with RX/TX A with full QSK at QRQ speeds. I am using macros inspired by ZL2IFB: SPLIT RT0;XT0;FR0;DV0;BW0040;SWT13;SWT13;UP4;SB1;BW0100;MN111;MP002;MN255; UNSPLIT SWT11;BW0040;SWT13;SWT13;FR0;SB0;RT0;XT0;LK0;LK$0;MN111;MP001;MN255; 73, Martin, OK1RR Dne 15.2.2014 20:33, Jorge Diez - CX6VM napsal(a): > Hello > > > > I saw in the manual of K3 that CW QRQ is "temporarily turned OFF" with > SPLIT. > > > > Will be in the future any way to use it in SPLIT mode or is impossible? > > > > I usually use SPLIT when running to pick up calls few Hz up and down, like > it instead of RIT because of the large knob of VFO A > > 73, > > Jorge > > CX6VM/CW5W > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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AFAIK, probably not. The frequency must be shifted from RX to TX, and with QRQ in effect it is not possible to shift that fast. A K3 with 'chirp' on the ham bands would not be a nice thing to hear. 73, Don W3FPR On 2/15/2014 2:33 PM, Jorge Diez - CX6VM wrote: > I saw in the manual of K3 that CW QRQ is "temporarily turned OFF" with > SPLIT. > > Will be in the future any way to use it in SPLIT mode or is impossible? > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Thanks for the info Don!
73, Jorge -----Mensaje original----- De: Don Wilhelm [mailto:[hidden email]] Enviado el: sábado, 15 de febrero de 2014 07:06 p.m. Para: Jorge Diez - CX6VM; 'Elecraft Reflector' Asunto: Re: [Elecraft] CW QRQ and SPLIT Jorge, AFAIK, probably not. The frequency must be shifted from RX to TX, and with QRQ in effect it is not possible to shift that fast. A K3 with 'chirp' on the ham bands would not be a nice thing to hear. 73, Don W3FPR On 2/15/2014 2:33 PM, Jorge Diez - CX6VM wrote: > I saw in the manual of K3 that CW QRQ is "temporarily turned OFF" with > SPLIT. > > Will be in the future any way to use it in SPLIT mode or is impossible? > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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It is sad that QRQ mode has no RIT !!!
Cw up from 30 to 35 WPM hast o use QRQ mode because of struggling dits and dahs Many highspeed ops VHSC EHSC has changed from k3 to FT5000 because of leaking RIT with QRQ with K3 Maybe Wayne will sharpen Firmware in future for QRQ mode If rit/split is necessary i use 2nd RX but this is not so comfortable 73 Oe6kyg Klaus -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] Im Auftrag von Don Wilhelm Gesendet: Samstag, 15. Februar 2014 22:06 An: Jorge Diez - CX6VM; 'Elecraft Reflector' Betreff: Re: [Elecraft] CW QRQ and SPLIT Jorge, AFAIK, probably not. The frequency must be shifted from RX to TX, and with QRQ in effect it is not possible to shift that fast. A K3 with 'chirp' on the ham bands would not be a nice thing to hear. 73, Don W3FPR On 2/15/2014 2:33 PM, Jorge Diez - CX6VM wrote: > I saw in the manual of K3 that CW QRQ is "temporarily turned OFF" with > SPLIT. > > Will be in the future any way to use it in SPLIT mode or is impossible? > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Do you need the RIT mode when the other station is zero beat with your signal?
John/K4WJ ex KN8PXG K8PXG ZF2HZ Sent from my iPad > On Feb 17, 2014, at 3:05 AM, Klaus Koppendorfer <[hidden email]> wrote: > > It is sad that QRQ mode has no RIT !!! > Cw up from 30 to 35 WPM hast o use QRQ mode because of struggling dits and dahs > > Many highspeed ops VHSC EHSC has changed from k3 to FT5000 because of leaking RIT with QRQ with K3 > > Maybe Wayne will sharpen Firmware in future for QRQ mode > > If rit/split is necessary i use 2nd RX but this is not so comfortable > > 73 > Oe6kyg > Klaus > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] Im Auftrag von Don Wilhelm > Gesendet: Samstag, 15. Februar 2014 22:06 > An: Jorge Diez - CX6VM; 'Elecraft Reflector' > Betreff: Re: [Elecraft] CW QRQ and SPLIT > > Jorge, > > AFAIK, probably not. The frequency must be shifted from RX to TX, and with QRQ in effect it is not possible to shift that fast. A K3 with 'chirp' on the ham bands would not be a nice thing to hear. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > >> On 2/15/2014 2:33 PM, Jorge Diez - CX6VM wrote: >> I saw in the manual of K3 that CW QRQ is "temporarily turned OFF" with >> SPLIT. >> >> Will be in the future any way to use it in SPLIT mode or is impossible? > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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But if you have several hams in the round-table, you sure do need RIT because you know all hams are not going to be zero beat. Besides that, yes, ever if your one QSO partner is zero beat, you need the ability to slightly change the Rx QRQ frequency so the received tone suits your ears. Copying QRQ requires one to be able to use standard CW receiver functions. That is why I, personally, can't use my K3 for full QSK QRQ operation.
Since this issue has been on-going for several years, it most likely can not be fixed? Or it is just being ignored! 73, Tom - W4BQF -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of John Bohnovic Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 11:36 AM To: Klaus Koppendorfer Cc: Elecraft Reflector; [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW QRQ and SPLIT Do you need the RIT mode when the other station is zero beat with your signal? John/K4WJ ex KN8PXG K8PXG ZF2HZ Sent from my iPad > On Feb 17, 2014, at 3:05 AM, Klaus Koppendorfer <[hidden email]> wrote: > > It is sad that QRQ mode has no RIT !!! > Cw up from 30 to 35 WPM hast o use QRQ mode because of struggling dits > and dahs > > Many highspeed ops VHSC EHSC has changed from k3 to FT5000 because of > leaking RIT with QRQ with K3 > > Maybe Wayne will sharpen Firmware in future for QRQ mode > > If rit/split is necessary i use 2nd RX but this is not so comfortable > > 73 > Oe6kyg > Klaus > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: [hidden email] > [mailto:[hidden email]] Im Auftrag von Don Wilhelm > Gesendet: Samstag, 15. Februar 2014 22:06 > An: Jorge Diez - CX6VM; 'Elecraft Reflector' > Betreff: Re: [Elecraft] CW QRQ and SPLIT > > Jorge, > > AFAIK, probably not. The frequency must be shifted from RX to TX, and with QRQ in effect it is not possible to shift that fast. A K3 with 'chirp' on the ham bands would not be a nice thing to hear. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > >> On 2/15/2014 2:33 PM, Jorge Diez - CX6VM wrote: >> I saw in the manual of K3 that CW QRQ is "temporarily turned OFF" >> with SPLIT. >> >> Will be in the future any way to use it in SPLIT mode or is impossible? > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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When a station is zero beat with me, I hear him at my sidetone frequency. I understand that in a round table situation there will be some stations that won't be zero beat for a multitude of reasons.
BTW, my copying speed is going down, down, down. I haven't heard Lyle or you in a looong time. 73 John/K4WJ ex KN8PXG K8PXG ZF2HZ Sent from my iPad > On Feb 17, 2014, at 12:38 PM, "Chester Alderman" <[hidden email]> wrote: > > But if you have several hams in the round-table, you sure do need RIT because you know all hams are not going to be zero beat. Besides that, yes, ever if your one QSO partner is zero beat, you need the ability to slightly change the Rx QRQ frequency so the received tone suits your ears. Copying QRQ requires one to be able to use standard CW receiver functions. That is why I, personally, can't use my K3 for full QSK QRQ operation. > Since this issue has been on-going for several years, it most likely can not be fixed? Or it is just being ignored! > > 73, > Tom - W4BQF > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of John Bohnovic > Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 11:36 AM > To: Klaus Koppendorfer > Cc: Elecraft Reflector; [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW QRQ and SPLIT > > Do you need the RIT mode when the other station is zero beat with your signal? > > John/K4WJ > ex KN8PXG K8PXG ZF2HZ > Sent from my iPad > >> On Feb 17, 2014, at 3:05 AM, Klaus Koppendorfer <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> It is sad that QRQ mode has no RIT !!! >> Cw up from 30 to 35 WPM hast o use QRQ mode because of struggling dits >> and dahs >> >> Many highspeed ops VHSC EHSC has changed from k3 to FT5000 because of >> leaking RIT with QRQ with K3 >> >> Maybe Wayne will sharpen Firmware in future for QRQ mode >> >> If rit/split is necessary i use 2nd RX but this is not so comfortable >> >> 73 >> Oe6kyg >> Klaus >> >> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: [hidden email] >> [mailto:[hidden email]] Im Auftrag von Don Wilhelm >> Gesendet: Samstag, 15. Februar 2014 22:06 >> An: Jorge Diez - CX6VM; 'Elecraft Reflector' >> Betreff: Re: [Elecraft] CW QRQ and SPLIT >> >> Jorge, >> >> AFAIK, probably not. The frequency must be shifted from RX to TX, and with QRQ in effect it is not possible to shift that fast. A K3 with 'chirp' on the ham bands would not be a nice thing to hear. >> >> 73, >> Don W3FPR >> >>> On 2/15/2014 2:33 PM, Jorge Diez - CX6VM wrote: >>> I saw in the manual of K3 that CW QRQ is "temporarily turned OFF" >>> with SPLIT. >>> >>> Will be in the future any way to use it in SPLIT mode or is impossible? >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email >> list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email >> list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Mine also has gone down pretty far. I doubt I could copy very much over 80 wpm anymore without substantial practice. Almost all of the QRQ folks have just moved on to other things. Lyle's wife passed and he is mostly staying home and operating very little. KB9XE and his wife have both retired, bought a big trailer and they spend winters in Arizona and back in Chicago during the summer. It is my own fault, but I very seldom get on the air, except for contesting.
Hope all is well with you John? 73, Tom - W4BQF -----Original Message----- From: John Bohnovic [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 1:11 PM To: Chester Alderman Cc: Klaus Koppendorfer; Elecraft Reflector; <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW QRQ and SPLIT When a station is zero beat with me, I hear him at my sidetone frequency. I understand that in a round table situation there will be some stations that won't be zero beat for a multitude of reasons. BTW, my copying speed is going down, down, down. I haven't heard Lyle or you in a looong time. 73 John/K4WJ ex KN8PXG K8PXG ZF2HZ Sent from my iPad > On Feb 17, 2014, at 12:38 PM, "Chester Alderman" <[hidden email]> wrote: > > But if you have several hams in the round-table, you sure do need RIT because you know all hams are not going to be zero beat. Besides that, yes, ever if your one QSO partner is zero beat, you need the ability to slightly change the Rx QRQ frequency so the received tone suits your ears. Copying QRQ requires one to be able to use standard CW receiver functions. That is why I, personally, can't use my K3 for full QSK QRQ operation. > Since this issue has been on-going for several years, it most likely can not be fixed? Or it is just being ignored! > > 73, > Tom - W4BQF > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of John Bohnovic > Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 11:36 AM > To: Klaus Koppendorfer > Cc: Elecraft Reflector; [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW QRQ and SPLIT > > Do you need the RIT mode when the other station is zero beat with your signal? > > John/K4WJ > ex KN8PXG K8PXG ZF2HZ > Sent from my iPad > >> On Feb 17, 2014, at 3:05 AM, Klaus Koppendorfer <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> It is sad that QRQ mode has no RIT !!! >> Cw up from 30 to 35 WPM hast o use QRQ mode because of struggling >> dits and dahs >> >> Many highspeed ops VHSC EHSC has changed from k3 to FT5000 because of >> leaking RIT with QRQ with K3 >> >> Maybe Wayne will sharpen Firmware in future for QRQ mode >> >> If rit/split is necessary i use 2nd RX but this is not so comfortable >> >> 73 >> Oe6kyg >> Klaus >> >> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: [hidden email] >> [mailto:[hidden email]] Im Auftrag von Don Wilhelm >> Gesendet: Samstag, 15. Februar 2014 22:06 >> An: Jorge Diez - CX6VM; 'Elecraft Reflector' >> Betreff: Re: [Elecraft] CW QRQ and SPLIT >> >> Jorge, >> >> AFAIK, probably not. The frequency must be shifted from RX to TX, and with QRQ in effect it is not possible to shift that fast. A K3 with 'chirp' on the ham bands would not be a nice thing to hear. >> >> 73, >> Don W3FPR >> >>> On 2/15/2014 2:33 PM, Jorge Diez - CX6VM wrote: >>> I saw in the manual of K3 that CW QRQ is "temporarily turned OFF" >>> with SPLIT. >>> >>> Will be in the future any way to use it in SPLIT mode or is impossible? >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this >> list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this >> list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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