CW Speed (RE: QSK Redux)
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-----Original Message----- Ouch, 25 wpm is cw with training wheels. In the real world people don't send that slow. Bummer. -------------------------- Ouch indeed :-). My fastest reliable speed ever is about 25 wpm. It's almost embarrassing to say I've been 90% CW for 15 yrs and my speed has yet to get much over 20. I guess I'm just not serious enough about it. But, I have a lot of fun with the straight key (SKCC) working stations at 15 wpm +/-. We can get beyond RST/OP/QTH and actually talk to each other. - Keith KD1E - - K2 5411 - _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I'd say a majority of the people working REAL high speed are
doing it with keyboards and "readers". (What's the point in that when there is PSK31 to do the same job?) A few hams out there can skip along at 30-40 WPM but they are in the minority by far. "Contesters" don't count as they are locked into a set format and not much information is actually exchanged except for the required data. Really good high speed telegraphers are rather scarce. (I'm speaking of those using straight keys or "bugs, or sideswiper keys). 73, Sandy W5TVW (I still 'plod along at 20-25 wpm most of the time.) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darwin, Keith" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 6:47 AM Subject: CW Speed (RE: [Elecraft] QSK Redux) | | -----Original Message----- | Ouch, | | 25 wpm is cw with training wheels. In the real world people don't send | that slow. Bummer. | | -------------------------- | | Ouch indeed :-). My fastest reliable speed ever is about 25 wpm. It's | almost embarrassing to say I've been 90% CW for 15 yrs and my speed has | yet to get much over 20. I guess I'm just not serious enough about it. | | But, I have a lot of fun with the straight key (SKCC) working stations | at 15 wpm +/-. We can get beyond RST/OP/QTH and actually talk to each | other. | | - Keith KD1E - | - K2 5411 - | _______________________________________________ | Elecraft mailing list | Post to: [hidden email] | You must be a subscriber to post to the list. | Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): | http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft | | Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm | Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com | | | | -- | No virus found in this incoming message. | Checked by AVG Free Edition. | Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/335 - Release Date: 5/9/2006 | | _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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On May 9, 2006, at 2:01 PM, Sandy W5TVW wrote: > I'd say a majority of the people working REAL high speed are > doing it with keyboards and "readers". (What's the point in that > when there is PSK31 to do the same job?) Keyboards - definitely! It's the only way to consistently generate high-speed CW. Readers - definitely NOT. Most QRQ ops copy in their heads. They wouldn't lower themselves to use a "reader". Back in the late 70's, when I was a Novice, and later a General, I was involved in the WV Novice Net. A couple of the net control guys were blind hams. They would call the net at 5 wpm, go through the traffic, close it, and then call each other on the 'net frequency -- at 40+ wpm! They both had CW keyboards (which were pretty new back then), and would converse quite a bit back and forth at these speeds. > A few hams out there can skip along at 30-40 WPM but they are in the > minority by far. "Contesters" don't count as they are locked into > a set > format and not much information is actually exchanged except for > the required data. Most of the really, really good contesters I know can also copy conversationally QRQ CW. Me? I can do almost 30 wpm in a contest, but I'm back down below 24 for conversational CW. > Really good high speed telegraphers are rather > scarce. (I'm speaking of those using straight keys or "bugs, or > sideswiper keys). That's pretty much a dead art. Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: [hidden email] Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!" -- Wilbur Wright, 1901 _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by Darwin, Keith
On May 14, 2006, at 10:38 PM, Dale Putnam wrote: > This brings to the forefront, the question of what is the bandwidth > of a cw signal, that is keyed at 35 wpm, and one that is keyed at > 99 wpm?? Good question. While the signaling rate of a CW signal does have an affect on bandwidth, the majority of the wideband products come from the rapid rise and fall times of the signal envelope. (that's why key clicks are heard so far away from the operating frequency) Don't expect a 99 wpm signal to be much wider than 35 wpm. That said, no one can copy a 99 wpm CW signal. The top QRQ guys are around 60 wpm. > With the regulation by bandwidth, does this now put a speed limit > on cw? Potentially, but that limit is so high as to be practically no limit. Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: [hidden email] Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!" -- Wilbur Wright, 1901 _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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