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dhhdeh

CW listening pitch

A: 440

Is what the concertmaster uses to tune the orchestra.

Really easy to listen to for long periods.

BTW there really is a strong correlation between
learning to play music and learning CW. Not a
direct one.....but similar

My $.02

YMMV

73 de N1LQ-Dave
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Phil Kane-2

Re: CW listening pitch

On 2/28/2015 2:44 PM, David and Dianne on Comcast wrote:

> BTW there really is a strong correlation between learning to play music
> and learning CW. Not a direct one.....but similar

My late brother (KU2P / 4X1AK) was a clarinetist as well as a
programmer, and taught himself CW with no problems. May he rest in peace.

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
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Phil Wheeler-2

Re: CW listening pitch

I failed clarinet, but am a mathematician, or was.
That seems to have worked.

Phil W7OX

On 2/28/15 3:27 PM, Phil Kane wrote:
> On 2/28/2015 2:44 PM, David and Dianne on Comcast wrote:
>
>> BTW there really is a strong correlation between learning to play music
>> and learning CW. Not a direct one.....but similar
> My late brother (KU2P / 4X1AK) was a clarinetist as well as a
> programmer, and taught himself CW with no problems. May he rest in peace.
>
> 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
> Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402

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Josh Fiden

Re: CW listening pitch

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In my youth as a cellist, we always used A 442 or 443Hz. Exception was if there was a piano, then we were of course constrained to 440 (and a tempered scale). The slightly sharp tuning always sounded better to me.

73,
Josh W6XU

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> On Feb 28, 2015, at 2:44 PM, David and Dianne on Comcast <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> A: 440
>
> Is what the concertmaster uses to tune the orchestra.
>
> Really easy to listen to for long periods.
>
> BTW there really is a strong correlation between learning to play music and learning CW. Not a direct one.....but similar
>
> My $.02
>

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Phil Wheeler-2

Re: CW listening pitch

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Maybe you didn't sing at your optimum Morse code
pitch :-)

Phil W7OX

On 2/28/15 4:19 PM, Walter Underwood wrote:

Phil Hystad-3

Re: CW listening pitch

In reply to this post by Phil Wheeler-2

I played clarinet in the 6th grade -- hated it. I was a mathematician (programming a lot
of mathematical applications and other things). And I still love mathematics because
Mathematical Physics is my primary hobby (or, passion). Ham radio comes second except
in the summer ham radio could count as third to woodworking as second.

I learned CW when I was 9 years old. By the time (much later) when I took my Novice
test, I was probably copying more than the 13 wpm required of the General class.

This is off-topic so far -- but my tone frequency of choice is 640 Hz.

phil K7PEH

> On Feb 28, 2015, at 3:49 PM, Phil Wheeler <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I failed clarinet, but am a mathematician, or was. That seems to have worked.
>
> Phil W7OX
>
> On 2/28/15 3:27 PM, Phil Kane wrote:
>> On 2/28/2015 2:44 PM, David and Dianne on Comcast wrote:
>>
>>> BTW there really is a strong correlation between learning to play music
>>> and learning CW. Not a direct one.....but similar
>> My late brother (KU2P / 4X1AK) was a clarinetist as well as a
>> programmer, and taught himself CW with no problems. May he rest in peace.
>>
>> 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
>> Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402
>
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Matt Murphy

Re: CW listening pitch

This website will let you generate an equal loudness curve for your own
hearing:

http://newt.phys.unsw.edu.au/jw/hearing.html

73,
Matt NQ6N/9

On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 6:47 PM, Phil Hystad <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I played clarinet in the 6th grade -- hated it. I was a mathematician
> (programming a lot
> of mathematical applications and other things). And I still love
> mathematics because
> Mathematical Physics is my primary hobby (or, passion). Ham radio comes
> second except
> in the summer ham radio could count as third to woodworking as second.
>
> I learned CW when I was 9 years old. By the time (much later) when I took
> my Novice
> test, I was probably copying more than the 13 wpm required of the General
> class.
>
> This is off-topic so far -- but my tone frequency of choice is 640 Hz.
>
> phil K7PEH
>
> > On Feb 28, 2015, at 3:49 PM, Phil Wheeler <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > I failed clarinet, but am a mathematician, or was. That seems to have
> worked.
> >
> > Phil W7OX
> >
> > On 2/28/15 3:27 PM, Phil Kane wrote:
> >> On 2/28/2015 2:44 PM, David and Dianne on Comcast wrote:
> >>
> >>> BTW there really is a strong correlation between learning to play music
> >>> and learning CW. Not a direct one.....but similar
> >> My late brother (KU2P / 4X1AK) was a clarinetist as well as a
> >> programmer, and taught himself CW with no problems. May he rest in
> peace.
> >>
> >> 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
> >> Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402
> >
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Phil Wheeler-2

Re: CW listening pitch

That is interesting; but mine has been
"professionally calibrated" :-)

Phil W7OX

On 2/28/15 5:16 PM, Matt Murphy wrote:

> This website will let you generate an equal
> loudness curve for your own hearing:
>
> http://newt.phys.unsw.edu.au/jw/hearing.html
>
> 73,
> Matt NQ6N/9
>
> On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 6:47 PM, Phil Hystad
> <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
> I played clarinet in the 6th grade -- hated
> it. I was a mathematician (programming a lot
> of mathematical applications and other
> things). And I still love mathematics because
> Mathematical Physics is my primary hobby
> (or, passion). Ham radio comes second except
> in the summer ham radio could count as third
> to woodworking as second.
>
> I learned CW when I was 9 years old. By the
> time (much later) when I took my Novice
> test, I was probably copying more than the
> 13 wpm required of the General class.
>
> This is off-topic so far -- but my tone
> frequency of choice is 640 Hz.
>
> phil K7PEH
>
> > On Feb 28, 2015, at 3:49 PM, Phil Wheeler
> <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
> >
> > I failed clarinet, but am a mathematician,
> or was. That seems to have worked.
> >
> > Phil W7OX
> >
> > On 2/28/15 3:27 PM, Phil Kane wrote:
> >> On 2/28/2015 2:44 PM, David and Dianne on
> Comcast wrote:
> >>
> >>> BTW there really is a strong correlation
> between learning to play music
> >>> and learning CW. Not a direct
> one.....but similar
> >> My late brother (KU2P / 4X1AK) was a
> clarinetist as well as a
> >> programmer, and taught himself CW with no
> problems. May he rest in peace.
> >>
> >> 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
> >> Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402
>

NK7Z

Re: CW listening pitch

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That's OK, as I would find singing insanely hard.
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On Sat, 2015-02-28 at 16:19 -0800, Walter Underwood wrote:

> I’ve been singing in choirs since I was 12 and I find Morse insanely hard. Luckily, it was no longer necessary for professional use after the Viterbi decoder was invented in 1970.
>
> wunder
> K6WRU
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>
> On Feb 28, 2015, at 3:49 PM, Phil Wheeler <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > I failed clarinet, but am a mathematician, or was. That seems to have worked.
> >
> > Phil W7OX
> >
> > On 2/28/15 3:27 PM, Phil Kane wrote:
> >> On 2/28/2015 2:44 PM, David and Dianne on Comcast wrote:
> >>
> >>> BTW there really is a strong correlation between learning to play music
> >>> and learning CW. Not a direct one.....but similar
> >> My late brother (KU2P / 4X1AK) was a clarinetist as well as a
> >> programmer, and taught himself CW with no problems. May he rest in peace.
> >>
> >> 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
> >> Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402
> >
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NK7Z

Re: CW listening pitch

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Except that when you play them back, your local system will color it...
Best process is to copy W1AW, find a weak feed, and see which tone works
best for you...
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Thanks and 73's,
For equipment, and software setups and reviews see:
www.nk7z.net
for MixW support see;
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for Dopplergram information see:
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for MM-SSTV see:
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On Sat, 2015-02-28 at 19:16 -0600, Matt Murphy wrote:

> This website will let you generate an equal loudness curve for your own
> hearing:
>
> http://newt.phys.unsw.edu.au/jw/hearing.html
>
> 73,
> Matt NQ6N/9
>
> On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 6:47 PM, Phil Hystad <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > I played clarinet in the 6th grade -- hated it. I was a mathematician
> > (programming a lot
> > of mathematical applications and other things). And I still love
> > mathematics because
> > Mathematical Physics is my primary hobby (or, passion). Ham radio comes
> > second except
> > in the summer ham radio could count as third to woodworking as second.
> >
> > I learned CW when I was 9 years old. By the time (much later) when I took
> > my Novice
> > test, I was probably copying more than the 13 wpm required of the General
> > class.
> >
> > This is off-topic so far -- but my tone frequency of choice is 640 Hz.
> >
> > phil K7PEH
> >
> > > On Feb 28, 2015, at 3:49 PM, Phil Wheeler <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > >
> > > I failed clarinet, but am a mathematician, or was. That seems to have
> > worked.
> > >
> > > Phil W7OX
> > >
> > > On 2/28/15 3:27 PM, Phil Kane wrote:
> > >> On 2/28/2015 2:44 PM, David and Dianne on Comcast wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> BTW there really is a strong correlation between learning to play music
> > >>> and learning CW. Not a direct one.....but similar
> > >> My late brother (KU2P / 4X1AK) was a clarinetist as well as a
> > >> programmer, and taught himself CW with no problems. May he rest in
> > peace.
> > >>
> > >> 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
> > >> Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402
> > >
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Re: CW listening pitch

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The message does not include pitch, but it is my opinion from years of copying cw that the best pitch is a function of the listeners hearing. It is worth some effort to determine the best pitch for your ears, as we get older we have dead spots which are a function of your experience, so while I like around 550 to 600, you may like a different pitch as if you are trying to copy a frequency that is in your dead spot, you may have a harder time than if you move it some. Willis 'Cookie' Cooke,TDXS Contest Chairman K5EWJ & Trustee N5BPS
From: Phil Kane <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2015 5:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW listening pitch

On 2/28/2015 2:44 PM, David and Dianne on Comcast wrote:

> BTW there really is a strong correlation between learning to play music
> and learning CW. Not a direct one.....but similar

My late brother (KU2P / 4X1AK) was a clarinetist as well as a
programmer, and taught himself CW with no problems. May he rest in peace.

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402

From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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