There is a poll at <http://www.arrl.org> asking what percentage of time
we spend operating CW. So far there are only 3200 votes. More votes would make it more interesting! Please vote (early but not often). Yes I know it's self-selected and statistically worthless, as well as being easy to fool into accepting multiple votes. But it's interesting anyway. -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Vic, K2VCO wrote:
There is a poll at <http://www.arrl.org> asking what percentage of time we spend operating CW. So far there are only 3200 votes. More votes would make it more interesting! Please vote (early but not often). Yes I know it's self-selected and statistically worthless, as well as being easy to fool into accepting multiple votes. But it's interesting anyway. -------------------------------- Tnx Vic! Egad! The ARRL did this a couple of years ago and I thought the firestorm it kicked up would never stop! They finally took the poll off-line in the middle of the run after it appeared that someone set up scripts to vote automatically and "stuff the ballot box" endlessly! At this point it's interesting to see that, among those who voted, it's either CW most or all of the time or CW none of the time. Perhaps those Hams who do some of both probably don't care to vote <G>. Oh, well, as one report said some years back, an extensive poll of the USA showed that 99% of the voters don't care one way or the other about voter apathy. Ron AC7AC - _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In a message dated 12/7/2005 9:22:33 AM Mountain Standard Time, [hidden email] writes: There is a poll at <http://www.arrl.org> asking what percentage of time we spend operating CW. Where is the poll on the website? It has soooomuch stuff, I can't find the page to which you refer...73, Ci Ci Jones, WU7R FISTS #10789 NAQCC #306 ARCI #12163 _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Can you be a bit more vague on the URL? I searched the home page and site
map for "poll", and used their search function for "vote", "vote cw", "poll", "poll cw" and find no poll. Maybe you need to have a microphone to find the page? Dan / WG4S / K2 #2456 <snip> There is a poll at <http://www.arrl.org> </snip> _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
on the bottom right of the home page; no special URL...
--Dave, W5SV Dan Barker wrote: >Can you be a bit more vague on the URL? I searched the home page and site >map for "poll", and used their search function for "vote", "vote cw", >"poll", "poll cw" and find no poll. Maybe you need to have a microphone to >find the page? > >Dan / WG4S / K2 #2456 > ><snip> >There is a poll at <http://www.arrl.org> ></snip> > > Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Middle of the home page, right side right next to Bob Schetgen's
picture. - Keith - -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Dan Barker Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 11:52 AM To: Vic K2VCO; Elecraft Subject: RE: [Elecraft] CW poll Can you be a bit more vague on the URL? I searched the home page and site map for "poll", and used their search function for "vote", "vote cw", "poll", "poll cw" and find no poll. Maybe you need to have a microphone to find the page? Dan / WG4S / K2 #2456 <snip> There is a poll at <http://www.arrl.org> </snip> _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Sorry, that was disingeneous of me; in the right hand frame, below the
new ARRL products, to the right of the ARRL CCEP blurb; maybe abut the middle of the page vertically... 73 de W5SV, Dave David F. Reed wrote: > on the bottom right of the home page; no special URL... > > --Dave, W5SV > > Dan Barker wrote: > >> Can you be a bit more vague on the URL? I searched the home page and >> site >> map for "poll", and used their search function for "vote", "vote cw", >> "poll", "poll cw" and find no poll. Maybe you need to have a >> microphone to >> find the page? >> >> Dan / WG4S / K2 #2456 >> >> <snip> >> There is a poll at <http://www.arrl.org> >> </snip> > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Gee guys, maybe you need to check eyesight. I found it in 3
seconds....at the right hand side of the page in the box at the bottom. K4TO Dan Barker wrote: >Can you be a bit more vague on the URL? I searched the home page and site >map for "poll", and used their search function for "vote", "vote cw", >"poll", "poll cw" and find no poll. Maybe you need to have a microphone to >find the page? > >Dan / WG4S / K2 #2456 > ><snip> >There is a poll at <http://www.arrl.org> ></snip> > >_______________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Post to: [hidden email] >You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > > Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Ci, WU7R wrote:
"Where is the poll on the website? It has soooomuch stuff, I can't find the page to which you refer" ========== It's on ARRL's home page (http://www.arrl.org). Scroll down the page about 50% and on the right side you'll see the box labeled "ARRL Web Survey". 73, de Earl, K6SE _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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It took me a while to find, too. If you search for
"poll," you don't get it. They use the word "survey." --- Dave Sublette <[hidden email]> wrote: > Gee guys, maybe you need to check eyesight. I found > it in 3 > seconds....at the right hand side of the page in the > box at the bottom. > > K4TO > > Dan Barker wrote: > > >Can you be a bit more vague on the URL? I searched > the home page and site > >map for "poll", and used their search function for > "vote", "vote cw", > >"poll", "poll cw" and find no poll. Maybe you need > to have a microphone to > >find the page? > > > >Dan / WG4S / K2 #2456 > > > ><snip> > >There is a poll at <http://www.arrl.org> > ></snip> > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Elecraft mailing list > >Post to: [hidden email] > >You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > >Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > > > >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > >Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Dan Barker wrote:
>Can you be a bit more vague on the URL? I searched the home page and site >map for "poll", and used their search function for "vote", "vote cw", >"poll", "poll cw" and find no poll. Maybe you need to have a microphone to >find the page? > >Dan / WG4S / K2 #2456 > ><snip> >There is a poll at <http://www.arrl.org> ></snip> > > easy to find, even for an old f*rt like myself. John W2AGN _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Not nearly as discouteous as "Can you be a bit more vague..." I would
hope that individual is properly chastised! John W2AGN (now understands why kids today can't read....) David F. Reed wrote: > Sorry, that was disingeneous of me; in the right hand frame, below the > new ARRL products, to the right of the ARRL CCEP blurb; maybe abut the > middle of the page vertically... > > 73 de W5SV, Dave > > David F. Reed wrote: > >> on the bottom right of the home page; no special URL... >> >> --Dave, W5SV >> >> Dan Barker wrote: >> >>> Can you be a bit more vague on the URL? I searched the home page and >>> site >>> map for "poll", and used their search function for "vote", "vote cw", >>> "poll", "poll cw" and find no poll. Maybe you need to have a >>> microphone to >>> find the page? >>> >>> Dan / WG4S / K2 #2456 >>> >>> <snip> >>> There is a poll at <http://www.arrl.org> >>> </snip> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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[hidden email] wrote:
> Where is the poll on the website? It has soooomuch stuff, I can't find the > page to which you refer...73, Ci At the bottom of the main page. -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
>Egad! The ARRL did this a couple of years ago and I thought the firestorm it >kicked up would never stop! They finally took the poll off-line in the >middle of the run after it appeared that someone set up scripts to vote >automatically and "stuff the ballot box" endlessly! > > > I remember that. Nearly every list I was subscribed to filled with comments on each side (not all civilized) regardless of the list subject. I wonder why they are doing this again, given that the results are worthless, even without the "Chicago Voting Protocol?" Fred K6DGW Auburn CA CM98lw "Insanity is continuing to do what you already know doesn't work" (or something like that) Albert Einstein _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Is this for members only? I see nothing on the home page about this. What's the full link?
73, Sandy W5TVW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vic K2VCO" <[hidden email]> To: "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]> Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 10:20 AM Subject: [Elecraft] CW poll | There is a poll at <http://www.arrl.org> asking what percentage of time | we spend operating CW. So far there are only 3200 votes. More votes | would make it more interesting! Please vote (early but not often). | | Yes I know it's self-selected and statistically worthless, as well as | being easy to fool into accepting multiple votes. But it's interesting | anyway. | | -- | 73, | Vic, K2VCO | Fresno CA | http://www.qsl.net/k2vco | _______________________________________________ | Elecraft mailing list | Post to: [hidden email] | You must be a subscriber to post to the list. | Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): | http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft | | Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm | Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com | | | | -- | No virus found in this incoming message. | Checked by AVG Free Edition. | Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/192 - Release Date: 12/5/2005 | | _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
SORRY! I read the rest of incoming mail and found out where it was!
Thier website is VERY cluttered! Yes I did vote! We almost need to "pack the ballot box" so the ARRL gang doesn't go along with the rabid "no code" bunch! Remember what happened to the MARS system! They simply banned its use! 73, Sandy W5TVW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandy, W5TVW" <[hidden email]> To: "Vic K2VCO" <[hidden email]>; "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]> Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW poll | Is this for members only? I see nothing on the home page about this. What's the full link? | 73, | Sandy W5TVW | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Vic K2VCO" <[hidden email]> | To: "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]> | Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 10:20 AM | Subject: [Elecraft] CW poll | | | | There is a poll at <http://www.arrl.org> asking what percentage of time | | we spend operating CW. So far there are only 3200 votes. More votes | | would make it more interesting! Please vote (early but not often). | | | | Yes I know it's self-selected and statistically worthless, as well as | | being easy to fool into accepting multiple votes. But it's interesting | | anyway. | | | | -- | | 73, | | Vic, K2VCO | | Fresno CA | | http://www.qsl.net/k2vco | | _______________________________________________ | | Elecraft mailing list | | Post to: [hidden email] | | You must be a subscriber to post to the list. | | Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): | | http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft | | | | Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm | | Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com | | | | | | | | -- | | No virus found in this incoming message. | | Checked by AVG Free Edition. | | Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/192 - Release Date: 12/5/2005 | | | | | _______________________________________________ | Elecraft mailing list | Post to: [hidden email] | You must be a subscriber to post to the list. | Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): | http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft | | Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm | Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com | | | | -- | No virus found in this incoming message. | Checked by AVG Free Edition. | Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/192 - Release Date: 12/5/2005 | | _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, Fred Jensen wrote:
>> > I remember that. Nearly every list I was subscribed to filled with comments > on each side (not all civilized) regardless of the list subject. I wonder > why they are doing this again, given that the results are worthless, even > without the "Chicago Voting Protocol?" Perhaps to put forth the image that they solicit and consider the opinions of the amateur radio community? 73,Thom-k3hrn www.zerobeat.net Home of QRP Web Ring, Drakelist home page,Drake Web Ring, Free Classified Ads for amateur radio, QRP IRC channel, Drake IRC Channel, Elecraft Owners Database www.tlchost.net/hosting/ *** Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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