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CW skimmer setup question

VE3WDM
Just downloaded CW skimmer and am using it with the LP Pan, E MU 0202 and of coarse the K3. I am in the process of setting things up and has some questions. As well just wanted to share the setup options I chose just to make sure they are ok.
Under the settings tab....and then to the radio tab
1. I have set hardware to softRock-IF (as per LP Pan site) is this correct?
2. Sampling rate I am going to use is 96 and I did set the same on the E MU 0202
3. Pitch is set to 600 as is the K3
4. The Audio IF I am not sure what to set that too as I am not running any SDR software. The only answer I could find for the setting of the was to set the Audio IF at -6000 and take away the global offset from your SDR software. I am not using SDR software so is it left at -6000?
The Audio tab is set as follows.........
1. Sound-card driver is set to MME
2. Signal and Audio devices are set to my E MU 0202 cards
3. Channels was left at Left/Right= I/Q
4. Shift Right channel data was left at 0 samples
The Rig tab is set as follows..........
1. Rig K3
2. Com port to be set when I use VSP manager to set up a virtual port pair.  
3. Baud 38400
4. Data 8 bits
5. Parity none
6. Stop 2
7. RTS set to High....not sure about this?
8. DTR set to high as well and not sure about this?
9. Poll set to default 500
10. Time out set to default 4000.  
Not to concerned about other tabs at this moment in time. Just wanted to see if I am on the right track with those who have this program up and running with their K3
Thanks for your time
Mike
VE3WDM
     
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Re: CW skimmer setup question

Bill W4ZV
The best place to get answers is the LP-PAN website.  It has very complete instructions for both hardware and software.  

http://www.telepostinc.com/LP-PAN.html

For example, here's the page for the E-Mu 0202:

http://www.telepostinc.com/emu0202.html

If you still have questions after reading the website, the LP-PAN list is also available:

http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/LP-PAN/conversations/messages

Search the archives before asking questions.

If all else fails, Larry N8LP is very responsive if you email him directly:

n8lp at telepostinc.com

IMHO Larry's products and support are on a par with Elecraft's and I have no connection with him other than being a very satisfied customer for several of his products.

73,  Bill  W4ZV  (LP-PAN #008)
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Re: CW skimmer setup question

Martin
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Mike,


 > 1. I have set hardware to softRock-IF (as per LP Pan site) is this
 > correct?

OK

 > 2. Sampling rate I am going to use is 96 and I did set the same on
 > the E MU 0202

OK, but 192khz also should work.

 > 3. Pitch is set to 600 as is the K3

OK

 > 4. The Audio IF I am not sure what to set that too as I am not
 > running any SDR software. The only answer I could find for the
 > setting of the was to set the Audio IF at -6000 and take away the
 > global offset from your SDR software. I am not using SDR software so
 > is it left at -6000?

OK



 > The Audio tab is set as follows.........
 > 1. Sound-card driver is set to MME

OK

 > 2. Signal and Audio devices are set to my E MU 0202 cards

OK

 > 3. Channels was left at Left/Right= I/Q

Depends on cabling and band . On 6m, I/Q must be swapped.
Run a different copy for 6m with I/Q swapped.

I set up my cables to match the cabling of PowerSDR. PowerSDR
compensates the SWAP of IF frequency above 30Mhz automatically.

So, for shortwave:

SoftRock-IF, Audio IF= -6000, I/Q Left/Right

Tune in a constant signal on your K3 . With the the above settings, the
signal ( a continous dash on the screen) should be very close to the
little green arrow. If it is a bit off, correct AUDIO IF up or down in
small steps. If it is far off, you probably have the cables interchanged.

Finally, if you tune your K3 e.g. lower in frequency, the dash on the
screen should move up (= stay on its frequency) while the green arrow
should move down (= indicate the new lower K3 frequency) and vice versa.
If not, flip cables. Allow a moment for the screen to update.

With this cabling, PowerSDR should run 'out of the box'.

For 6m, use the same cabling/settings. Just flip I and Q or run a
differnt copy with I/Q flipped.


 > 4. Shift Right channel data was left at 0 samples

Probably OK

--

Ohne CW ist es nur CB..

73, Martin DM4iM
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Re: CW skimmer setup question

Chuck - AE4CW
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Mike,

Please see my embedded responses below:

Just downloaded CW skimmer and am using it with the LP Pan, E MU 0202 and of coarse the K3. I am in the process of setting things up and has some questions. As well just wanted to share the setup options I chose just to make sure they are ok.
Under the settings tab....and then to the radio tab
1. I have set hardware to softRock-IF (as per LP Pan site) is this correct?
   YES
2. Sampling rate I am going to use is 96 and I did set the same on the E MU 0202
   OK
3. Pitch is set to 600 as is the K3
   OK
4. The Audio IF I am not sure what to set that too as I am not running any SDR software. The only answer I could find for the setting of the was to set the Audio IF at -6000 and take away the global offset from your SDR software. I am not using SDR software so is it left at -6000?
   YOU WILL NEED TO ADJUST THE AUDIO IF SO THAT THE CW SIGNAL LINES UP WITH THE SKIMMER FREQUENCY INDICATOR, I.E. THE GREEN POINTER.  MINE IS -5140.
The Audio tab is set as follows.........
1. Sound-card driver is set to MME
   OK
2. Signal and Audio devices are set to my E MU 0202 cards
   OK
3. Channels was left at Left/Right= I/Q
   I HAD TO CHANGE TO Q/I.
4. Shift Right channel data was left at 0 samples
   OK
The Rig tab is set as follows..........
   I HAVE NOT USED VSP MANAGER...RATHER LP-BRIDGE, BUT SEE BELOW FOR MY SETTINGS IN THE SKIMMER CAT OMNI-RIG PANEL
1. Rig K3
2. Com port to be set when I use VSP manager to set up a virtual port pair.  
3. Baud 38400
   OK
4. Data 8 bits
   OK
5. Parity none
   OK
6. Stop 2
   THE K3 USES 1 STOP BIT
7. RTS set to High....not sure about this?
   LOW
8. DTR set to high as well and not sure about this?
   LOW
9. Poll set to default 500
   100
10. Time out set to default 4000.  
   100
Not to concerned about other tabs at this moment in time. Just wanted to see if I am on the right track with those who have this program up and running with their K3
Thanks for your time
Mike
VE3WDM
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Chuck, AE4CW
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Re: CW skimmer setup question

N8LP
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Two observations...

Poling rate of 100 is fine for LP-Bridge, since the traffic is
intercepted and responded to from memory. With a standard bridging
program, all those requests are passed on to the rig. In the case of the
K3, eventually the data rate will exceed the allowable amount and cause
issues.

Timeout of 100 seems way too low. The program has to be able to try at
least several times to respond to a request, especially since a standard
bridging program allows packet collisions, and if there is just one
compromised packet sent that the rig doesn't understand, there is not
enough time for the next good one to get to the rig.

73,
Larry N8LP




On 9/2/2013 10:03 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

> Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 18:11:20 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Chuck - AE4CW<[hidden email]>
> To:[hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW skimmer setup question
> Message-ID:<[hidden email]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Mike,
>
> Please see my embedded responses below:
>
> Just downloaded CW skimmer and am using it with the LP Pan, E MU 0202 and of
> coarse the K3. I am in the process of setting things up and has some
> questions. As well just wanted to share the setup options I chose just to
> make sure they are ok.
> Under the settings tab....and then to the radio tab
> 1. I have set hardware to softRock-IF (as per LP Pan site) is this correct?
>     YES
> 2. Sampling rate I am going to use is 96 and I did set the same on the E MU
> 0202
>     OK
> 3. Pitch is set to 600 as is the K3
>     OK
> 4. The Audio IF I am not sure what to set that too as I am not running any
> SDR software. The only answer I could find for the setting of the was to set
> the Audio IF at -6000 and take away the global offset from your SDR
> software. I am not using SDR software so is it left at -6000?
>     YOU WILL NEED TO ADJUST THE AUDIO IF SO THAT THE CW SIGNAL LINES UP WITH
> THE SKIMMER FREQUENCY INDICATOR, I.E. THE GREEN POINTER.  MINE IS -5140.
> The Audio tab is set as follows.........
> 1. Sound-card driver is set to MME
>     OK
> 2. Signal and Audio devices are set to my E MU 0202 cards
>     OK
> 3. Channels was left at Left/Right= I/Q
>     I HAD TO CHANGE TO Q/I.
> 4. Shift Right channel data was left at 0 samples
>     OK
> The Rig tab is set as follows..........
>     I HAVE NOT USED VSP MANAGER...RATHER LP-BRIDGE, BUT SEE BELOW FOR MY
> SETTINGS IN THE SKIMMER CAT OMNI-RIG PANEL
> 1. Rig K3
> 2. Com port to be set when I use VSP manager to set up a virtual port pair.
> 3. Baud 38400
>     OK
> 4. Data 8 bits
>     OK
> 5. Parity none
>     OK
> 6. Stop 2
>     THE K3 USES 1 STOP BIT
> 7. RTS set to High....not sure about this?
>     LOW
> 8. DTR set to high as well and not sure about this?
>     LOW
> 9. Poll set to default 500
>     100
> 10. Time out set to default 4000.
>     100
> Not to concerned about other tabs at this moment in time. Just wanted to see
> if I am on the right track with those who have this program up and running
> with their K3
> Thanks for your time
> Mike
> VE3WDM

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