Dear fellow Elecrafters,
This is going to be an out of the ordinary post, and I am sure will get quite a bit of criticism, but since there has been a recent discussion about looking for ways to satisfy as many potential customers as possible (with the QRO kits etc), I would like to hear some opinions about this: What are the reasons for the popularity of the K2 radio not being equal to the Japanese made rigs worldwide ? Yes, the rig is very popular but its production/sale numbers are just about 5000, a rather small number compared to any of the commercially available units. In my view, which may be wrong of course, the answer is that the K2 is not considered by the majority of the hams worldwide as the radio that can substitute all others in HF in their shack. It is rather seen as a specialized 2nd or 3rd "luxury" radio. And here comes the question: Would it be possible and financially profitable for Elecraft to introduce a full feature transceiver kit that can maintain the well known RX advantages of the K2 while adding other features that have come to be considered as "standard" in modern radios ? * General HF coverage * IF manual Notch * Continuously variable PBT / Rx Bandwidth * Maybe 200W RF output * Band (manual) preselector Of course many people will argue about the usefulness of these features, but having a radio with the above would make it an extremely attractive choice as the only radio for many more hams worldwide, and since the vast majority of us like to build equipment, certainly would prefer it over ready made "black-boxes"..... Just some philosophical thoughts, and topics of debate. 73 to all, Marinos, ki4gin _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Why?? I can't see anything wrong with the way it is QRP. I prefer it over
the rice boxes, for one thing I don't need 10,000 bells and whistles, I don't even use many of the K2's extra features. I like it cause even stuipid me and fix it, or get tons of help on this group. Why mess it up?? Guess I just don't get what your getting at. I probably should not have even posted this. Jerry - NR5A - South DAkota ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marinos Markomanolakis, M.D." <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 8:51 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Can Elecraft take over the global HF ham radio business ? > Dear fellow Elecrafters, > This is going to be an out of the ordinary post, and I am sure will get > quite a bit of criticism, but since there has been a recent discussion about > looking for ways to satisfy as many potential customers as possible (with > the QRO kits etc), I would like to hear some opinions about this: > > What are the reasons for the popularity of the K2 radio not being equal to > the Japanese made rigs worldwide ? Yes, the rig is very popular but its > production/sale numbers are just about 5000, a rather small number compared > to any of the commercially available units. > > In my view, which may be wrong of course, the answer is that the K2 is not > considered by the majority of the hams worldwide as the radio that can > substitute all others in HF in their shack. It is rather seen as a > specialized 2nd or 3rd "luxury" radio. > > And here comes the question: > Would it be possible and financially profitable for Elecraft to introduce a > full feature transceiver kit that can maintain the well known RX advantages > of the K2 while adding other features that have come to be considered as > "standard" in modern radios ? > > * General HF coverage > * IF manual Notch > * Continuously variable PBT / Rx Bandwidth > * Maybe 200W RF output > * Band (manual) preselector > > Of course many people will argue about the usefulness of these features, > having a radio with the above would make it an extremely attractive choice > as the only radio for many more hams worldwide, and since the vast majority > of us like to build equipment, certainly would prefer it over ready made > "black-boxes"..... > > Just some philosophical thoughts, and topics of debate. > 73 to all, > Marinos, ki4gin > > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Jerry, NR5A wrote:
"Why??" ========== Because there's thousands of hams like KI4GIN and me who like bells and whistles and are willing to pay for them.. It may not appeal to NR5A and others, but there's a BIG market that it WOULD appeal to. 73, de Earl, K6SE _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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My guess is that reasons lie more in the greater number of hams interested in purchasing a factory-made box vs. a project, rather than any world-wide hunger for continuously variable PBT / Rx Bandwidth or General HF coverage. Bob, KD4WNQ -----Original Message----- What are the reasons for the popularity of the K2 radio not being equal to the Japanese made rigs worldwide ? _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I think any manufacturer in the cottage business of Ham Radio would like to sell 5,000 units. I am sure ICOM would like to sell that many PRO IIIs. Five thousand units is not a small amount in the business. Just a point. Lee - K0Wa Common sense is in short supply - get some and use it. If you can't find any common sense, ask somebody who owns some. - Lee Buller _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Do you think Icom has not sold 5,000 PRO III's? I find that surprising.
I have worked more 756PROs than K2s. I'm surprised that it would even be profitable to make such a rig in such small numbers. The bells and whistles probably add more to the R&D cost than the basic RF engineering, and I think there are a lot more custom made parts in it. -- Julian, G4ILO G4ILO's Shack: http://www.tech-pro.net/g4ilo Lee Buller <[hidden email]> wrote: I think any manufacturer in the cottage business of Ham Radio would like to sell 5,000 units. I am sure ICOM would like to sell that many PRO IIIs. Five thousand units is not a small amount in the business. _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I think the Japanese rigs sell because you take it out of the box, plug
it in, and start making QSOs. Comparing kits and finished radios is kind of like comparing a basket full of apples with a sapling! -- 72, Ron McDowell - W5RCM / ZS1MCD w5rcm at volente dot us Austin TX / Hermanus ZA On 29 Apr 2005 02:51:22 +0000, [Marinos Markomanolakis, M.D. <[hidden email]>] wrote: What are the reasons for the popularity of the K2 radio not being equal to the Japanese made rigs worldwide? _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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