Changing CW pitch?
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I'm thinking of changing the CW pitch on my K2 from 580hz to 650hz, maybe 700hz........my question, do I really need to realign the filters? This is what I've read!
I'm discovering I like a higher tone rather than lower CW tone. At 67-years-old, go figure Tnx and 73 ed k6sdw ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I would just hold the PITCH button and turn VFO A until you hear the pitch
you prefer. I don't believe filter alignment is affected. You're a kid! 73 de Dick, K6KR -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Eddy Avila Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 16:16 To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] Changing CW pitch? I'm thinking of changing the CW pitch on my K2 from 580hz to 650hz, maybe 700hz........my question, do I really need to realign the filters? This is what I've read! I'm discovering I like a higher tone rather than lower CW tone. At 67-years-old, go figure Tnx and 73 ed k6sdw ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Ed,
The short answer is YES. You can change the sidetone pitch, but that is only the sidetone that you hear - and that setting also determines the transmit offset. Assuming your CW filters are currently centered at your 580Hz pitch, you will need to move the center of the CW filters to whatever pitch you choose for the sidetone. That is done with the CAL FIL procedure. You will need the internal counter probe. It is easy if you use an audio spectrum analyzer like Spectrogram and feed the K2 ANT input with a broadband noise generator - you can see the peak of the filter passband. 73, Don W3FPR On 12/5/2016 7:15 PM, Eddy Avila wrote: > I'm thinking of changing the CW pitch on my K2 from 580hz to 650hz, maybe 700hz........my question, do I really need to realign the filters? This is what I've read! > > > I'm discovering I like a higher tone rather than lower CW tone. At 67-years-old, go figure > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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And if I'm not mistaken if you also have the audio filter add-on connected you need to adjust that to the new center frequency too.
I actually recently just done the same task on my K2. Cameron, ________________________________ From: Elecraft <[hidden email]> on behalf of Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 4:34 PM To: Eddy Avila; [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Changing CW pitch? Ed, The short answer is YES. You can change the sidetone pitch, but that is only the sidetone that you hear - and that setting also determines the transmit offset. Assuming your CW filters are currently centered at your 580Hz pitch, you will need to move the center of the CW filters to whatever pitch you choose for the sidetone. That is done with the CAL FIL procedure. You will need the internal counter probe. It is easy if you use an audio spectrum analyzer like Spectrogram and feed the K2 ANT input with a broadband noise generator - you can see the peak of the filter passband. 73, Don W3FPR On 12/5/2016 7:15 PM, Eddy Avila wrote: > I'm thinking of changing the CW pitch on my K2 from 580hz to 650hz, maybe 700hz........my question, do I really need to realign the filters? This is what I've read! > > > I'm discovering I like a higher tone rather than lower CW tone. At 67-years-old, go figure > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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That is correct, AND if you have the KDSP2, you need to set those filter
centers to your new sidetone pitch in the DSP menu settings. 73, Don W3FPR On 12/5/2016 7:48 PM, Cameron Francey wrote: > > And if I'm not mistaken if you also have the audio filter add-on > connected you need to adjust that to the new center frequency too. > > I actually recently just done the same task on my K2. > > > Cameron, > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Elecraft <[hidden email]> on behalf of Don > Wilhelm <[hidden email]> > *Sent:* Monday, December 5, 2016 4:34 PM > *To:* Eddy Avila; [hidden email] > *Subject:* Re: [Elecraft] Changing CW pitch? > Ed, > > The short answer is YES. > > You can change the sidetone pitch, but that is only the sidetone that > you hear - and that setting also determines the transmit offset. > > Assuming your CW filters are currently centered at your 580Hz pitch, you > will need to move the center of the CW filters to whatever pitch you > choose for the sidetone. That is done with the CAL FIL procedure. > You will need the internal counter probe. It is easy if you use an > audio spectrum analyzer like Spectrogram and feed the K2 ANT input with > a broadband noise generator - you can see the peak of the filter passband. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > > On 12/5/2016 7:15 PM, Eddy Avila wrote: > > I'm thinking of changing the CW pitch on my K2 from 580hz to 650hz, > maybe 700hz........my question, do I really need to realign the > filters? This is what I've read! > > > > > > I'm discovering I like a higher tone rather than lower CW tone. At > 67-years-old, go figure > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > <http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft> > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm <http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm> > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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...and better yet, you can create macros to do it all for you at the
press of a button! 73s and thanks, Dave NK7Z http://www.nk7z.net On 12/05/2016 04:51 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > That is correct, AND if you have the KDSP2, you need to set those filter > centers to your new sidetone pitch in the DSP menu settings. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 12/5/2016 7:48 PM, Cameron Francey wrote: >> >> And if I'm not mistaken if you also have the audio filter add-on >> connected you need to adjust that to the new center frequency too. >> >> I actually recently just done the same task on my K2. >> >> >> Cameron, >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From:* Elecraft <[hidden email]> on behalf of Don >> Wilhelm <[hidden email]> >> *Sent:* Monday, December 5, 2016 4:34 PM >> *To:* Eddy Avila; [hidden email] >> *Subject:* Re: [Elecraft] Changing CW pitch? >> Ed, >> >> The short answer is YES. >> >> You can change the sidetone pitch, but that is only the sidetone that >> you hear - and that setting also determines the transmit offset. >> >> Assuming your CW filters are currently centered at your 580Hz pitch, you >> will need to move the center of the CW filters to whatever pitch you >> choose for the sidetone. That is done with the CAL FIL procedure. >> You will need the internal counter probe. It is easy if you use an >> audio spectrum analyzer like Spectrogram and feed the K2 ANT input with >> a broadband noise generator - you can see the peak of the filter >> passband. >> >> 73, >> Don W3FPR >> >> >> On 12/5/2016 7:15 PM, Eddy Avila wrote: >> > I'm thinking of changing the CW pitch on my K2 from 580hz to 650hz, >> maybe 700hz........my question, do I really need to realign the >> filters? This is what I've read! >> > >> > >> > I'm discovering I like a higher tone rather than lower CW tone. At >> 67-years-old, go figure >> > >> > >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> <http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft> >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm <http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm> >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [hidden email] > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Hi,
If you have a hearing test scheduled anytime soon, ask for a copy of the frequency vs. hearing threshold graph. Find a place you hear well, and set the sidetone for that frequency. This made a BIG difference for the better, in the speed, and ease by which I copy CW. 73s and thanks, Dave NK7Z http://www.nk7z.net On 12/05/2016 04:15 PM, Eddy Avila wrote: > I'm thinking of changing the CW pitch on my K2 from 580hz to 650hz, maybe 700hz........my question, do I really need to realign the filters? This is what I've read! > > > I'm discovering I like a higher tone rather than lower CW tone. At 67-years-old, go figure > > > Tnx and 73 > > > ed > > > k6sdw > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Thanks everyone for your sage advice.....changing CW pitch sounds like a pain to me!!
I think I'll use the RIT and see if it's worth all that trouble. 73's all ed ~ k6sdw ________________________________ From: Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 4:51 PM To: Eddy Avila; [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Changing CW pitch? That is correct, AND if you have the KDSP2, you need to set those filter centers to your new sidetone pitch in the DSP menu settings. 73, Don W3FPR On 12/5/2016 7:48 PM, Cameron Francey wrote: > > And if I'm not mistaken if you also have the audio filter add-on > connected you need to adjust that to the new center frequency too. > > I actually recently just done the same task on my K2. > > > Cameron, > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Elecraft <[hidden email]> on behalf of Don > Wilhelm <[hidden email]> > *Sent:* Monday, December 5, 2016 4:34 PM > *To:* Eddy Avila; [hidden email] > *Subject:* Re: [Elecraft] Changing CW pitch? > Ed, > > The short answer is YES. > > You can change the sidetone pitch, but that is only the sidetone that > you hear - and that setting also determines the transmit offset. > > Assuming your CW filters are currently centered at your 580Hz pitch, you > will need to move the center of the CW filters to whatever pitch you > choose for the sidetone. That is done with the CAL FIL procedure. > You will need the internal counter probe. It is easy if you use an > audio spectrum analyzer like Spectrogram and feed the K2 ANT input with > a broadband noise generator - you can see the peak of the filter passband. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > > On 12/5/2016 7:15 PM, Eddy Avila wrote: > > I'm thinking of changing the CW pitch on my K2 from 580hz to 650hz, > maybe 700hz........my question, do I really need to realign the > filters? This is what I've read! > > > > > > I'm discovering I like a higher tone rather than lower CW tone. At > 67-years-old, go figure > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > <http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft> > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm <http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm> > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Ed, That kind of pain was part of the K2 fun for me (LOL)
73 Arie PA3A Op 6-12-2016 om 10:31 schreef Eddy Avila: > <snip> Thanks everyone for your sage advice.....changing CW pitch sounds like a pain to me!! > > > > ed ~ k6sdw > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Ed,
RIT will not help either, the pitch will still be at the peak of the passband. Now if you are only wanting to move it several tens of Hz, it will not make much difference - in other words, a properly aligned 700Hz passband centered at 580Hz will extend from 230Hz to 930Hz, but a 400Hz passband will extend only from 380Hz to 780Hz, and for a 200Hz width, it is likely to "fall off the edge". 73, Don W3FPR On 12/6/2016 4:31 AM, Eddy Avila wrote: > > Thanks everyone for your sage advice.....changing CW pitch sounds like > a pain to me!! > > > I think I'll use the RIT and see if it's worth all that trouble. > > > 73's all > > > ed ~ k6sdw > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> > *Sent:* Monday, December 5, 2016 4:51 PM > *To:* Eddy Avila; [hidden email] > *Subject:* Re: [Elecraft] Changing CW pitch? > That is correct, AND if you have the KDSP2, you need to set those filter > centers to your new sidetone pitch in the DSP menu settings. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 12/5/2016 7:48 PM, Cameron Francey wrote: > > > > And if I'm not mistaken if you also have the audio filter add-on > > connected you need to adjust that to the new center frequency too. > > > > I actually recently just done the same task on my K2. > > > > > > Cameron, > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* Elecraft <[hidden email]> on behalf of Don > > Wilhelm <[hidden email]> > > *Sent:* Monday, December 5, 2016 4:34 PM > > *To:* Eddy Avila; [hidden email] > > *Subject:* Re: [Elecraft] Changing CW pitch? > > Ed, > > > > The short answer is YES. > > > > You can change the sidetone pitch, but that is only the sidetone that > > you hear - and that setting also determines the transmit offset. > > > > Assuming your CW filters are currently centered at your 580Hz pitch, you > > will need to move the center of the CW filters to whatever pitch you > > choose for the sidetone. That is done with the CAL FIL procedure. > > You will need the internal counter probe. It is easy if you use an > > audio spectrum analyzer like Spectrogram and feed the K2 ANT input with > > a broadband noise generator - you can see the peak of the filter > passband. > > > > 73, > > Don W3FPR > > > > > > On 12/5/2016 7:15 PM, Eddy Avila wrote: > > > I'm thinking of changing the CW pitch on my K2 from 580hz to 650hz, > > maybe 700hz........my question, do I really need to realign the > > filters? This is what I've read! > > > > > > > > > I'm discovering I like a higher tone rather than lower CW tone. At > > 67-years-old, go figure > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > <http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft> > > <http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft> > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > <http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm> <http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm> > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to [hidden email] > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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