Competition coming for Elecraft?
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An ad for this was in the latest CQ. Not yet available.
_http://www.getboost.com/dz/sienna.htm_ (http://www.getboost.com/dz/sienna.htm) Geoff, K6TFZ _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Looks pretty wild, but this is out of the price range of most of us
amateurs... Alan, N3BJ ----- Original Message ----- From: <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 6:25 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Competition coming for Elecraft? > An ad for this was in the latest CQ. Not yet available. > > _http://www.getboost.com/dz/sienna.htm_ > (http://www.getboost.com/dz/sienna.htm) > > Geoff, K6TFZ > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.6/152 - Release Date: 10/31/2005 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.6/152 - Release Date: 10/31/2005 _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Geoff,
With an entry price of $3000 and a fully loaded radio at $6000, I really don't think the Sienna radio is any competition for Elecraft. I will keep my K2 and add a few more options. Doug W4DAS K2 #5000 _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I prefer building and using plenty of K2's than going with this
rig... ;-) Le 05-11-01 à 18:52, Doug Shields a écrit : > Geoff, > With an entry price of $3000 and a fully loaded radio at $6000, > I really > don't think the Sienna radio is any competition for Elecraft. I > will keep > my K2 and add a few more options. > > Doug W4DAS > K2 #5000 > > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > ============================================= /¯\/¯\/¯\/¯\/¯\/¯\ JEAN-FRANCOIS MENARD V A 2 V Y Z [hidden email] \_/\_/\_/\_/\_/\_/ FISTS #11896 Elecraft K2 #4130 Elecraft KX1 #999 http://homepage.mac.com/jfmenard ============================================= _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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> Competition coming for Elecraft?
Nope. "The Sienna will be available in Winter, 2005. We expect the entry level price to be about $3000, with options taking it up to about $6K fully loaded." A very different market. 73 de NA8M John _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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> An ad for this was in the latest CQ. Not yet available. > > _http://www.getboost.com/dz/sienna.htm_ > (http://www.getboost.com/dz/sienna.htm) $6K fully loaded? More like competition for the IC-7800 or Yaesu FT-9K! -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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On Tuesday 01 November 2005 23:25, [hidden email] wrote:
> An ad for this was in the latest CQ. Not yet available. > > _http://www.getboost.com/dz/sienna.htm_ > (http://www.getboost.com/dz/sienna.htm) Starting at $3000 and going up to $6000? The K2 achieves complete HF coverage of the amateur bands with single conversion for a lot less than $1000. Offering the two single conversion bands is tantamount to admitting the triple conversion is inadequate. It sounds like a bare K1 will give it some stiff competition. K2? No contest. Ian, G4ICV, AB2GR, K2 #4962 -- _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I actually looked at this seriously but then I read this:
o Easy construction - PC, transmitter, tuner/filter, stereo audio amp and controller are all preassembled and tested. You build the receiver and IF filter boards, DC power distribution board and front panel board, assemble the chassis and integrate it. Most cables are pre-wired. Parts that can be easily confused are pre-sorted so you don't have to read color codes or read tiny print. Manual is styled after those yellow-covered ones from yesteryear. Sounds like most of the work's already done. I bought a K1 (and subsequently a K2) because I wanted to build something. With the Sienna it's more like you're finishing the job, not doing the job. Craig NZ0R K1 #1966 K2/100 #4941 -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of [hidden email] Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 5:25 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] Competition coming for Elecraft? An ad for this was in the latest CQ. Not yet available. _http://www.getboost.com/dz/sienna.htm_ (http://www.getboost.com/dz/sienna.htm) Geoff, K6TFZ _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Oh boy:
* OPTION: Internal, full-featured, upgradeable 1 GHz PC (shown above) running Windows XPE That you can access from the web.. That just seems like a *bad* idea... Do I have to scan for viruses on my radio? Can it check my email? Ewww. :) I like the look of the Elecraft kits more.. While I think the K1 could use more elements in the display I don't like the look of the display on the Sienna.. I'm still sticking with my plan to buy a K1 in a month... :) Geoffeg, KC8FDU > An ad for this was in the latest CQ. Not yet available. > > _http://www.getboost.com/dz/sienna.htm_ > (http://www.getboost.com/dz/sienna.htm) > > Geoff, K6TFZ > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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It appears that their base rig is about 3 times the cost of a
similarly equipped K2. Stan Rife W5EWA Houston, TX K2 S/N 4216 -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of [hidden email] Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 5:25 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] Competition coming for Elecraft? An ad for this was in the latest CQ. Not yet available. _http://www.getboost.com/dz/sienna.htm_ (http://www.getboost.com/dz/sienna.htm) Geoff, K6TFZ _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Seems to me it's the same market...it's an amatuer band transciever.
It does seem to be more suited to a class of amatuer radio operator with more disposable income than I have. Stan Rife W5EWA Houston, TX K2 S/N 4216 -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of John Huffman Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 5:55 PM To: [hidden email]; [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Competition coming for Elecraft? > Competition coming for Elecraft? Nope. "The Sienna will be available in Winter, 2005. We expect the entry level price to be about $3000, with options taking it up to about $6K fully loaded." A very different market. 73 de NA8M John _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Well out of my range, especially when my K2 RX (sort of all that really
counts in an xcvr as long as the TX produces the correct signal) beats anything I have ever used or tried out. It may be good, but I think it is aimed at a more upscale market. Fred K6DGW Auburn CA CM98lw Vic K2VCO wrote: > [hidden email] wrote: > >> An ad for this was in the latest CQ. Not yet available. >> >> _http://www.getboost.com/dz/sienna.htm_ >> (http://www.getboost.com/dz/sienna.htm) > > > $6K fully loaded? More like competition for the IC-7800 or Yaesu FT-9K! > Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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They may have some impact on the high end market, but with prices starting
at $3000 and up to $6000, I won't ever be buying one. I think that Elecraft is safe. Jess AE0CW -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of [hidden email] Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 4:25 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] Competition coming for Elecraft? An ad for this was in the latest CQ. Not yet available. _http://www.getboost.com/dz/sienna.htm_ (http://www.getboost.com/dz/sienna.htm) Geoff, K6TFZ _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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The secret to surviving in the ham radio market is to find a niche and serve
it well. 'Course you have to find a niche where there are more than a few customers. The number of hams with $6000 who want to connect pre-made cables to pre-assembled boards chock full of SMDs is likely a tad on the small side. And both of those guys already bought an IC-7800. Eric KE6US www.ke6us.com -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of [hidden email] Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 3:25 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] Competition coming for Elecraft? An ad for this was in the latest CQ. Not yet available. _http://www.getboost.com/dz/sienna.htm_ (http://www.getboost.com/dz/sienna.htm) Geoff, K6TFZ _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I saw this at Dayton - it was interesting. Myself I would not embed a
Windows/Linux computer inside the radio, rather put an Ethernet connector on the computer with enough brains to have a network-addressable radio so that raw data can be accessed and processed on a PC. There is a great demand for this, who knows what the K3 will have? Simon Brown --- www.hb9drv.ch www.laax.ch ----- Original Message ----- From: <[hidden email]> > An ad for this was in the latest CQ. Not yet available. > > _http://www.getboost.com/dz/sienna.htm_ > (http://www.getboost.com/dz/sienna.htm) > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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You can do this with an embedded serial device server using any radio with a serial port... but of course you are limited to the supported commands/data on that port. If you have access to QST, see my article in the October edition... or go to the "Remote Control of Networked Station Equipment" link on my website, www.telepostinc.com I think most high-end radios will eventually include an ethernet port... or possibly even wi-fi. Larry N8LP Simon Brown (HB9DRV) wrote: > I saw this at Dayton - it was interesting. Myself I would not embed a > Windows/Linux computer inside the radio, rather put an Ethernet > connector on the computer with enough brains to have a > network-addressable radio so that raw data can be accessed and > processed on a PC. There is a great demand for this, who knows what > the K3 will have? > > Simon Brown > --- > www.hb9drv.ch www.laax.ch > > ----- Original Message ----- From: <[hidden email]> > > >> An ad for this was in the latest CQ. Not yet available. >> >> _http://www.getboost.com/dz/sienna.htm_ >> (http://www.getboost.com/dz/sienna.htm) >> > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > > Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Na, you're looking at it all wrong. This is great news for Elecraft.
"Gee honey, look how cheap a fully-loaded K2 is compared to the other alternative. Will all the money I'm saving I can get a K1 and a new PC" :-) - Keith - _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I'm thinking of three major computer-related 'opportunities' for the K3:
[1] A true network device with Ethernet (maybe USB but this is overkill IMHO), [2] Access to bandscope info via the network. [3] Audio / digital pre-audio data via the network. This hardware is not too expensive nowadays, and if there is a willing group of programmers the computer software needed can be free. The FlexRadio software is gently moving in this direction, may be a good testbed for these ideas. Obviously an external box could be built which handles this for all radios but what I really, really want is bandscope data at a nice high speed. I'm so impressed with my KX-1 kit that I am having a battle with my VISA card to stop me buying a K1 as well :-) Simon Brown --- www.hb9drv.ch www.laax.ch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Phipps" <[hidden email]> > > You can do this with an embedded serial device server using any radio with > a serial port... but of course you are limited to the supported > commands/data on that port. If you have access to QST, see my article in > the October edition... or go to the "Remote Control of Networked Station > Equipment" link on my website, www.telepostinc.com > > I think most high-end radios will eventually include an ethernet port... > or possibly even wi-fi. > Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Darwin, Keith" <[hidden email]> Na, you're looking at it all wrong. This is great news for Elecraft. "Gee honey, look how cheap a fully-loaded K2 is compared to the other alternative. Will all the money I'm saving I can get a K1 and a new PC" --- You forgot: "honey, you can keep the house and car, I only need the shack"! Simon Brown --- www.hb9drv.ch www.laax.ch _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Simon Brown (HB9DRV) wrote:
> I'm thinking of three major computer-related 'opportunities' for the K3: > > [1] A true network device with Ethernet (maybe USB but this is overkill > IMHO), > [2] Access to bandscope info via the network. > [3] Audio / digital pre-audio data via the network. I agree that radios with external control interfaces (serial, USB, ethernet, I care not) are a great idea however there may be issues with the audio processing/management available via that same interface.. You're adding some delay/latency there and you're also adding complexity on the radio side to pump that analog audio out via a digital interface (possibly compressed). I'd rather just do it via ye ole analog in/out.. Geoffeg (KC8FDU) _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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