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Once you get all of this "hard work" completed, PLEASE..... ....make this option user selectable (toggle ability to do it as :yes vs no). I suspect that many (most?) users do not want this option to be "on" all the time. And please "bury" it in the menu that is only activated with Tech MD = ON. :-) mni tnx! de Doug KR2Q _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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After two solid days of using the K3 to chase DX, changing bands and modes often, I conclude that the K3 should be mated with computer control for real flexibility in this application of use. The front panel is mainly for DXpeditions that stay on one freq/mode for long periods. Otherwise, I get a new band, or two, when I want to activate the VOX, as a typical example of the careful touch needed to get either one small push or a longer push... and the mistaken change also cancels out my selection of Split when I finally get back to the desired band. More buttons to CAREFULLY push. And without using the complex and easily forgotten scheme of programming the memories as band/mode change agents, going from CW band to phone means pushing the excursion speed button (Coarse, Fine, etc.), spinning the tuning knob frantically and changing the mode button with a slight push, not a heavy one. Yes, Elecrafters, I know there is a well-known work-around, but I have now concluded that the K3 front panel is vy difficult and that complete computer control is the answer, at least for DX chasers and those who make many band/mode changes in a short period of time. I suggest Elecraft market a computer program for the K3 asap, or at least make recommendations of those that seem best. But then, I ask myself, do I want a FLEX substitute? 73, Charles Harpole [hidden email] _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I don't find any difficulty discerning between "push" and "push and hold", that's been a feature of many consumer electronics for years. After 2 months with the K3 I'm still not familiar with all the features, menus and buttons, because I'm having more fun on the radio than I've had in years. The radio is just a joy to use. I don't find that switching modes or bands is a problem. Sometimes I have to fish around for a setting in the menus or look at the manual, but it's not as difficult as my FT-857D! As for a computer control program try Ham Radio Deluxe, the developer, Simon Brown, owns a K3 and HRD does a fine job. No need for Elecraft to reinvent the wheel. Rob NV5E > From: [hidden email] > To: [hidden email] > Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 05:17:28 +0000 > Subject: [Elecraft] K3 is really a computer radio > > > After two solid days of using the K3 to chase > > DX, changing bands and modes often, > > I conclude that the K3 should be mated > > with computer control for real flexibility in > > this application of use. The front panel is > > mainly for DXpeditions that stay on one > > freq/mode for long periods. Otherwise, > > I get a new band, or two, when I want to > > activate the VOX, as a typical example of > > the careful touch needed to get either > > one small push or a longer push... > > and the mistaken change also cancels > > out my selection of Split when I finally get > > back to the desired band. More buttons to > > CAREFULLY push. > > And without using the complex and easily > > forgotten scheme of programming the > > memories as band/mode change agents, > > going from CW band to phone means pushing > > the excursion speed button (Coarse, Fine, etc.), > > spinning the tuning knob frantically and changing > > the mode button with a slight push, not a heavy one. > > Yes, Elecrafters, I know there is a well-known > > work-around, but I have now concluded that the K3 > > front panel is vy difficult and that complete computer > > control is the answer, at least for DX chasers and > > those who make many band/mode changes in a > > short period of time. > > I suggest Elecraft market a computer program for > > the K3 asap, or at least make recommendations of > > those that seem best. But then, I ask myself, do I > > want a FLEX substitute? 73, > > > Charles Harpole > > [hidden email] > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _________________________________________________________________ Store, manage and share up to 5GB with Windows Live SkyDrive. http://skydrive.live.com/welcome.aspx?provision=1?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_skydrive_102008_______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I totally agree with you Rob!
As an example the VK9DWX from Willis Island was rolling in on 1826.5 for more than 4 hours yesterday. They were listening up 3 and down 3 changing direction rapidly with heavy Eu and JA pileups. I enjoyed listening to their ability to handle those huge piles. What rigs are they using?? You guess. My K3 can stand the large EU signal levels on 160 without any problems, simply the best RX I have ever used. Just like NV5E I like the HRD solution but can manage the K3 without it. Thus, no need for Elecraft to invent another wheel, thank you. I wish you all a nice Sunday! Len SM7BIC ............................. I don't find any difficulty discerning between "push" and "push and hold", that's been a feature of many consumer electronics for years. After 2 months with the K3 I'm still not familiar with all the features, menus and buttons, because I'm having more fun on the radio than I've had in years. The radio is just a joy to use. I don't find that switching modes or bands is a problem. Sometimes I have to fish around for a setting in the menus or look at the manual, but it's not as difficult as my FT-857D! As for a computer control program try Ham Radio Deluxe, the developer, Simon Brown, owns a K3 and HRD does a fine job. No need for Elecraft to reinvent the wheel. Rob NV5E ................ > I suggest Elecraft market a computer program for > > the K3 asap, or at least make recommendations of > > those that seem best. But then, I ask myself, do I > > want a FLEX substitute? 73, > > > Charles Harpole > > [hidden email] _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Charles I don't have any problem driving my K3 in either contests or
just plain ragchewing... 3rd party software is not an Elecraft issue. One of the best value contest programs is N1MM's Logger, it integrates nicely to the K3 and will directly key it via the serial port with no extra hardware or cables needed... Although it might key more smoothly slow PCs if you use K1EL's "Winkey". It picks DX Cluster spots displaying them on a "tuning scale", you click on the station you want to work, hit another key to call and another key to send a report. Press yet another key to log the QSO. Other than shooting fish in a barrel it doesn't come any easier. 73 Dave, G4AON K3/100 #80 _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I don't have any of the problems Charles mentions. The K3 front panel is very well designed, especially given its compact size. I change bands, modes and frequencies frequently. Although I have little patience for memorization, I find it very easy to remember my convention for using memory recall to go to 80m with Memory 8, 40m with Memory 4, etc. Although I have played around with Ham Radio Deluxe, a very nice program, I don't use it in day to day DXing, rag chewing, contesting or band searching. The K3 is a joy to use "as is" for every type of operating I do. I do use a logging program for contesting, of course, and it displays K3 frequency and mode. It can also change them. I don't use that capability for routine band/mode changes, preferring the front panel of the K3. I do use "point and shoot" to capture multipliers and that sometimes commands a band change. I may add a panadaptor some day.
/Rick N6XI On 10/18/08, Charles Harpole <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Charles, I also find that the way the front panel operates could be improved. But when I purchased the K3 , I knew about all double functions in advance (having a K2). Although I have more than a few flying hours on the K3, I still have to think twice before I change band or mode. The rest gives me no problem. No reason to sell the K3 or to control it by computer for me during normal operation. When in contest, I use N1MM logger as control program. Works just fine. 73 Arie PA3A _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Charles must have been pretty tired at 1:17 AM
EDT. I believe he lives in Texas. Perhaps perspiration from a long
neck trickled into his eyes and made vision difficult, and he forgot about
direct frequency entry.
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As a proud appliance operator, I want ease of use and punching in 1421400 plus mode and split and then entering the B split freq directly is just too much to ask of little me. Sure, u can use the rig from the existing front panel, but my point, sweat or no sweat, is that the thing is hard to use that way. Oh, for band stacking registers and band buttons. Charles Harpole [hidden email] ________________________________ From: [hidden email] To: [hidden email]; [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 is really a computer radio Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 10:31:02 -0400 CC: Charles must have been pretty tired at 1:17 AM EDT. I believe he lives in Texas. Perhaps perspiration from a long neck trickled into his eyes and made vision difficult, and he forgot about direct frequency entry. _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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That's my point, Rick. When one wants to really "get with it" for fast op, you and many others use computer control. The repeated reflector statements that list the "wish it had" seem almost as long as "what it has" and that tells u something. Charles Harpole [hidden email] ________________________________ Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 07:06:44 -0700 From: [hidden email] To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 is really a computer radio I don't have any of the problems Charles mentions. The K3 front panel is very well designed, especially given its compact size. I change bands, modes and frequencies frequently. Although I have little patience for memorization, I find it very easy to remember my convention for using memory recall to go to 80m with Memory 8, 40m with Memory 4, etc. Although I have played around with Ham Radio Deluxe, a very nice program, I don't use it in day to day DXing, rag chewing, contesting or band searching. The K3 is a joy to use "as is" for every type of operating I do. I do use a logging program for contesting, of course, and it displays K3 frequency and mode. It can also change them. I don't use that capability for routine band/mode changes, preferring the front panel of the K3. I do use "point and shoot" to capture multipliers and that sometimes commands a band change. I may add a panadaptor some day. /Rick N6XI On 10/18/08, Charles Harpole <[hidden email]> wrote: After two solid days of using the K3 to chase DX, changing bands and modes often, I conclude that the K3 should be mated with computer control for real flexibility in this application of use. The front panel is mainly for DXpeditions that stay on one freq/mode for long periods. Otherwise, I get a new band, or two, when I want to activate the VOX, as a typical example of the careful touch needed to get either one small push or a longer push... and the mistaken change also cancels out my selection of Split when I finally get back to the desired band. More buttons to CAREFULLY push. And without using the complex and easily forgotten scheme of programming the memories as band/mode change agents, going from CW band to phone means pushing the excursion speed button (Coarse, Fine, etc.), spinning the tuning knob frantically and changing the mode button with a slight push, not a heavy one. Yes, Elecrafters, I know there is a well-known work-around, but I have now concluded that the K3 front panel is vy difficult and that complete computer control is the answer, at least for DX chasers and those who make many band/mode changes in a short period of time. I suggest Elecraft market a computer program for the K3 asap, or at least make recommendations of those that seem best. But then, I ask myself, do I want a FLEX substitute? 73, Charles Harpole [hidden email] _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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>Oh, for band stacking registers and band buttons.
My advice: Buy a different radio. Elecraft can't please EVERYONE! VE7XF _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Thanks for ur advice which I already took. I got a FT-9000d which has so many knobs and switches that it may set the all time record. For operating ease, the Yaesu is far superior and already contains most of the features on the Elecrafters wish lists. I just wanted to give the K3 a thorough chance to show its stuff and was frustrated at the difficulty of operation. I was also able to switch the same antenna between the 9000d and the K3. In all cases the performance on 80 and 160 was the same with noise and vy weak sigs. Considering the vast price difference, that makes the K3 the bargain of the decade, even if u add the cost of a computer to control it. 73 Charles Harpole [hidden email] > Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 20:48:18 -0700 > To: [hidden email] > From: [hidden email] > Subject: [Elecraft] RE: K3 is really a computer radio > >>Oh, for band stacking registers and band buttons. > > My advice: > Buy a different radio. > Elecraft can't please EVERYONE! > > VE7XF > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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All contesters use logging programs, Charles, regardless of the type of radio they are using. Contesting without a logging program is like living without indoor plumbing. You can do it but in the first world you don't. No radio on the planet changes this.
/Rick On 10/19/08, Charles Harpole <[hidden email]> wrote:
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The only thing I've found less than optimum is the b-set press to gain
access to sub-rx settings. It would be far more convenient to be able to manipulate sub-rx filter settings, antenna selection, band changes (eventually, as it's not supported in firmware yet), etc., w/o going through b-set, as well as another S-meter on display for the sub-rx (and filter/ant selection feedback). However, keeping in mind this is (or at least was) a "field" rig, the lack of direct control/feedback is understandable to keep things compact. However, with performance and specs being so damn good, it's taking over the desk position in more and more stations, esp. serious contesters/dxers. Just browse through the 3830 reflector log submissions, K3s are all over the place, including "big-gun" shacks, and gaining more acceptance than any other rig before it. With this shift, it may be advantageous to expand FP control. With SO2R, the sub-rx would see minimal use anyways, but DXers and SO2V ops would have far less fiddling around with some things broken out of b-set. Perhaps the next generation K-3 (K-3-Pro) could be a re-work of the front panel user-interface, ie. add a few more knobs/buttons and larger, more comprehensive display. Instead of re-designing any of the guts (ie. RF and daughter boards), a new, larger (taller) case, FP PCB + LCD, the extra knobs, new button film, et. al. could be offered as a retrofit kit, which basically just requires transferring the existing innards. Best 73 es cu in SS Eric NO3M (ex. NI3S) _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Charles Harpole wrote:
>> Oh, for band stacking registers and band buttons. >> Ralph Parker wrote: > > My advice: > Buy a different radio. > Elecraft can't please EVERYONE! > Well said, I agree wholeheartedly! 73 Ian -- Ian J Maude, G0VGS SysOp GB7MBC DX Cluster Member RSGB, GQRP K2 #4044 |K3 #455 _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Can we get all the features Wayne currently has on his list first
please, before we start talking about a 'Pro' version? And then perhaps the PA's? Instead of a different model of K3, how about an extension panel, that either supplants the front panel or better, is additional, by plugging into the 'service' RJ45 underneath. Or of course, you can just do it with CAT control from a program - except for perhaps a few, I would think we all use computers in the shack, and since we're talking about the K3 as a base station, then using the computer to control the K3 seems reasonable to me. 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 -- There is no pillow so soft as a clear conscience. -French proverb On 20 Oct 2008, at 08:22, Eric Tichansky wrote: > Perhaps the next generation K-3 (K-3-Pro) could be a re-work of the > front panel user-interface, ie. add a few more knobs/buttons and > larger, more comprehensive display. Instead of re-designing any of > the guts (ie. RF and daughter boards), a new, larger (taller) case, > FP PCB + LCD, the extra knobs, new button film, et. al. could be > offered as a retrofit kit, which basically just requires > transferring the existing innards. _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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>> Oh, for band stacking registers and band buttons. >> > > My advice: > Buy a different radio. > Elecraft can't please EVERYONE! > > VE7XF > > > Just my two cents worth. I have been monitoring the threads here and am surprised by all the whining about 'please add this' and 'why won't it do that' posts! I found a little secret to successful operation of the K3. While all this complaining has been going on, I have been piling up the contacts (and QSL cards)! I have number 1264 delivered and built in July with ver. 2.15. I have not wasted my time fooling around with this or that brand cable interface or this new upgrade that cripples something else or any of this computer garbage! I tried something different, I plugged my radio in and sat down and operated the thing! Version 2.15 may not have the very latest little tweak, but none of the DX stations I have worked have noticed or complained to me! My advise to all, Stop trying to get the latest and greatest of everything and JUST OPERATE what you have! You bought the best radio out there, quit trying to 'fix it till it's broke'. 73 and good DX! In His service, Jim Cundiff KB3GFC K3 # 1264 _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I wish I had a nickel for every time I changed the mode, when I wanted
to change the band, or vice a versa. I would use all those nickels to by another K3 ;) . Now if I can just figure out a way to stop VOX from coming on when I go to phone, and screeching with the feedback. Which always surprises me since I do not use VOX on phone, but on RTTY and CW. 73 all es keep up the great work. An awesome list as always. David Wilburn NM4M Arie Kleingeld PA3A wrote: > Charles, > > > I also find that the way the front panel operates could be improved. But > when I purchased the K3 , I knew about all double functions in advance > (having a K2). Although I have more than a few flying hours on the K3, I > still have to think twice before I change band or mode. The rest gives > me no problem. > No reason to sell the K3 or to control it by computer for me during > normal operation. When in contest, I use N1MM logger as control program. > Works just fine. > > 73 > Arie PA3A > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Yes, I'm always pressing Bank instead of mode, but it's just operator
error 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 -- Our society must make it right and possible for old people not to fear the young or be deserted by them, for the test of a civilization is the way that it cares for its helpless members. -Pearl S. Buck, Nobelist novelist (1892-1973) On 20 Oct 2008, at 13:49, David Wilburn wrote: > I wish I had a nickel for every time I changed the mode, when I > wanted to change the band, or vice a versa. I would use all those > nickels to by another K3 ;) . > > Now if I can just figure out a way to stop VOX from coming on when I > go to phone, and screeching with the feedback. Which always > surprises me since I do not use VOX on phone, but on RTTY and CW. _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Honestly I find changing bands very fast once you use the 0-9 memory
locations to store the bands into them and do a little bit of remembering with your noodle. I find the radio a pleasure to work with and the user interface works quite well. It just takes adaptation to. This brings up the old dog new tricks cliche... Some just don't like having to remember or learn anything new. On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Charles Harpole <[hidden email]> wrote: > > That's my point, Rick. When one wants to > > really "get with it" for fast op, you and many > > others use computer control. > > The repeated reflector statements that > > list the "wish it had" seem almost as long as > > "what it has" and that tells u something. > > > Charles Harpole > > > > [hidden email] > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 07:06:44 -0700 > From: [hidden email] > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 is really a computer radio > > I don't have any of the problems Charles mentions. The K3 front panel is very well designed, especially given its compact size. I change bands, modes and frequencies frequently. Although I have little patience for memorization, I find it very easy to remember my convention for using memory recall to go to 80m with Memory 8, 40m with Memory 4, etc. Although I have played around with Ham Radio Deluxe, a very nice program, I don't use it in day to day DXing, rag chewing, contesting or band searching. The K3 is a joy to use "as is" for every type of operating I do. I do use a logging program for contesting, of course, and it displays K3 frequency and mode. It can also change them. I don't use that capability for routine band/mode changes, preferring the front panel of the K3. I do use "point and shoot" to capture multipliers and that sometimes commands a band change. I may add a panadaptor some day. > > /Rick N6XI > > > On 10/18/08, Charles Harpole <[hidden email]> wrote: > > After two solid days of using the K3 to chase > > DX, changing bands and modes often, > > I conclude that the K3 should be mated > > with computer control for real flexibility in > > this application of use. The front panel is > > mainly for DXpeditions that stay on one > > freq/mode for long periods. Otherwise, > > I get a new band, or two, when I want to > > activate the VOX, as a typical example of > > the careful touch needed to get either > > one small push or a longer push... > > and the mistaken change also cancels > > out my selection of Split when I finally get > > back to the desired band. More buttons to > > CAREFULLY push. > > And without using the complex and easily > > forgotten scheme of programming the > > memories as band/mode change agents, > > going from CW band to phone means pushing > > the excursion speed button (Coarse, Fine, etc.), > > spinning the tuning knob frantically and changing > > the mode button with a slight push, not a heavy one. > > Yes, Elecrafters, I know there is a well-known > > work-around, but I have now concluded that the K3 > > front panel is vy difficult and that complete computer > > control is the answer, at least for DX chasers and > > those who make many band/mode changes in a > > short period of time. > > I suggest Elecraft market a computer program for > > the K3 asap, or at least make recommendations of > > those that seem best. But then, I ask myself, do I > > want a FLEX substitute? 73, > > > Charles Harpole > > [hidden email] > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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