Do you believe this guy?
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The following is a narrative taken
from Sunday Morning's televised
'Meet The Press'. The author is employed by none other than the Washington Post!! From Sunday's 07 Sept. 2008 11:48:04 EST, Televised 'Meet the Press' Senator Obama was asked about his stance on the American Flag. General Bill Ginn' USAF (ret.) asked Obama to explain WHY he doesn't follow protocol when the National Anthem is played. The General also stated to Obama that according to the United States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171... During rendition of the national anthem, when the flag is displayed, all present (except those in uniform) are expected to stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. Or, at the very least, 'Stand and Face It'. Senator Obama replied: 'As I've said about the flag pin, I don't want to be perceived as taking sides'. 'There are a lot of people in the world to whom the American flag is a symbol of oppression.' 'The anthem itself conveys a war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting in air and all that sort of thing.' ARE YOU READY FOR THIS??? Obama said: 'The National Anthem should be 'swapped' for something less parochial and less bellicose. I like the song 'I'd Like To Teach the World To Sing'. If that were our anthem, then, I might salute it. In my opinion, we should consider reinventing our National Anthem as well as 'redesign' our Flag to better offer our enemies hope and love. It's my intention, if elected, to disarm America to the level of acceptance to our Middle East Brethren. If we, as a Nation of waring people, conduct ourselves as the nations of Islam where peace prevails - - - perhaps a state or period of mutual accord could exist between our governments .' When I become President, I will seek a pact or agreement to end hostilities between those who have been at war or in a state of enmity, and a freedom from disquieting oppressive thoughts. We as a Nation have placed upon the nations of Islam an unfair injustice which is WHY my Wife disrespects the Flag and she and I have attended several flag burning ceremonies in the past'. 'Of course now, I have found myself about to become the President of the United States and I have put my hatred aside. I will use my power to bring CHANGE to this Nation, and offer the people a new path. My wife and I look forward to becoming our Country's First black Family. Indeed, CHANGE is about to overwhelm the United States of America' WHAAAAAAAT the Hell is that!!! Yes, you read it right. This could possibly be our next President. I, for one, am speechless!!!
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Re: Do you believe this guy? [hoax]
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John,
I'm not taking sides, but I just investigated this. It sounded awfully extreme for someone who had made it this far into a U.S. presidential candidacy. As I expected, it's a complete fabrication. The best summary of what happened is here: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/stance.asp Obviously, someone is trying to smear Obama by whatever means necessary on the eve of the election. I'm sure others are working just as hard to discredit McCain. But I'd recommend checking out chain-mail of this type before re-sending it. It's easy to do: just pick some portion of the text and paste it into a google search. 73, Wayne N6KR On Nov 3, 2008, at 9:29 PM, John Trager wrote: > The following is a narrative taken from Sunday Morning's televised > 'Meet The Press'. The author is employed by none other than the > Washington Post!! > > From Sunday's 07 Sept. 2008 11:48:04 EST, Televised 'Meet the > Press' Senator Obama was asked about his stance on the American Flag. > > General Bill Ginn' USAF (ret.) asked Obama to explain WHY he > doesn't follow protocol when the National Anthem is played. > The General also stated to Obama that according to the United > States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171... > > During rendition of the national anthem, when the flag is > displayed, all present (except those in uniform) are expected to stand > at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. Or, at > the very least, 'Stand and Face It'. > > Senator Obama replied: > 'As I've said about the flag pin, I don't want to be perceived > as taking sides'. 'There are a lot of people in the world to whom the > American flag is a symbol of oppression.' > > 'The anthem itself conveys a war-like message. You know, the > bombs bursting in air and all that sort of thing.' > > ARE YOU READY FOR THIS??? > > Obama said: 'The National Anthem should be 'swapped' for > something less parochial and less bellicose. I like the song 'I'd Like > To Teach the World To Sing'. If that were our anthem, then, I might > salute it. In my opinion, we should consider reinventing our National > Anthem as well as 'redesign' our Flag to better offer our enemies hope > and love. It's my intention, if elected, to disarm America to the level > of acceptance to our Middle East Brethren. If we, as a Nation of waring > people, conduct ourselves as the nations of Islam where peace prevails > - > - - perhaps a state or period of mutual accord could exist between our > governments .' > > > When I become President, I will seek a pact or > agreement to end hostilities between those who have been at war > or in a state of enmity, and a freedom from disquieting oppressive > thoughts. We as a Nation have placed upon the nations of Islam an > unfair > injustice which is WHY my Wife disrespects the Flag and she and I have > attended several flag burning ceremonies in the past'. > > > 'Of course now, I have found myself about to become the > President of the United States and I have put my hatred aside. I will > use my power to bring CHANGE to this Nation, and offer the people a new > path. My wife and I look forward to becoming our Country's First black > Family. Indeed, CHANGE is about to overwhelm the United States of > America' > > WHAAAAAAAT the Hell is that!!! > Yes, you read it right. > > > This could possibly be our next President. > I, for one, am speechless!!! > >> >> Dale Lindsborg, >> Washington Post >> HOW FAST CAN YOU FORWARD THIS TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW??? >> --- http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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From urbanlegends.about.com :
Summary: Circulating via email, an alleged quote from Barack Obama explains why he doesn't wear a flag pin or salute the flag during the national anthem. Description: Email hoax / Satire Circulating since: March 2008 Status: False See the following page for more information: <http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/barackobama/a/obama_anthem.htm> _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Some of us in the rest of the world are terrified that the presidency could be won by someone who, should he not survive his four years, would be succeeded by somebody who until a year ago didn't even hold a passport. Were any of these candidates (of either side) really the best you had? Enjoy your election! I will be watching the results come in with bated breath and more than a little trepidation.
Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222 KX3 #110
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Will some one please stop this sort of post being put on the Elecraft forum.
There are more than enough other sights which can display such a message. I really don't want to know!
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John, I don't need to read political b.s., no matter what the slant,
first thing in the morning, especially this morning. I'd hope we'd keep politics and religion out of the sphere of discussion. 73, Barry N1EU On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 5:29 AM, John Trager <[hidden email]> wrote: > The following is a narrative taken from Sunday Morning's televised > 'Meet The Press'. The author is employed by none other than the > Washington Post!! > > From Sunday's 07 Sept. 2008 11:48:04 EST, Televised 'Meet the > Press' Senator Obama was asked about his stance on the American Flag. > > General Bill Ginn' USAF (ret.) asked Obama to explain WHY he > doesn't follow protocol when the National Anthem is played. > The General also stated to Obama that according to the United > States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171... > > During rendition of the national anthem, when the flag is > displayed, all present (except those in uniform) are expected to stand > at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. Or, at > the very least, 'Stand and Face It'. > > Senator Obama replied: > 'As I've said about the flag pin, I don't want to be perceived > as taking sides'. 'There are a lot of people in the world to whom the > American flag is a symbol of oppression.' > > 'The anthem itself conveys a war-like message. You know, the > bombs bursting in air and all that sort of thing.' > > ARE YOU READY FOR THIS??? > > Obama said: 'The National Anthem should be 'swapped' for > something less parochial and less bellicose. I like the song 'I'd Like > To Teach the World To Sing'. If that were our anthem, then, I might > salute it. In my opinion, we should consider reinventing our National > Anthem as well as 'redesign' our Flag to better offer our enemies hope > and love. It's my intention, if elected, to disarm America to the level > of acceptance to our Middle East Brethren. If we, as a Nation of waring > people, conduct ourselves as the nations of Islam where peace prevails - > - - perhaps a state or period of mutual accord could exist between our > governments .' > > > When I become President, I will seek a pact or > agreement to end hostilities between those who have been at war > or in a state of enmity, and a freedom from disquieting oppressive > thoughts. We as a Nation have placed upon the nations of Islam an unfair > injustice which is WHY my Wife disrespects the Flag and she and I have > attended several flag burning ceremonies in the past'. > > > 'Of course now, I have found myself about to become the > President of the United States and I have put my hatred aside. I will > use my power to bring CHANGE to this Nation, and offer the people a new > path. My wife and I look forward to becoming our Country's First black > Family. Indeed, CHANGE is about to overwhelm the United States of > America' > > WHAAAAAAAT the Hell is that!!! > Yes, you read it right. > > > This could possibly be our next President. > I, for one, am speechless!!! > > > > Dale Lindsborg, > Washington Post > HOW FAST CAN YOU FORWARD THIS TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW??? > Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Folks,
What has this got to do with ham radio??? Please- no politics, no religion !! 73, Chris-OE5CSP |
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What callsigns do McCain and Obama hold? I'm guessing McCain hangs out
on 80M AM, and Obama on 2M FM, but that would mean they don't have K2s. _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Political opinions are not a good subject for the Elecraft Reflector.
Send them to your buddies but not directly to a reflector. Jim
K4JAF
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The original sender could have accidently (unintentionally) selected the
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No John, it's a pack of lies and distortions.
Jim Brown K9YC Carson City, NV Obama Campaign HQ --Original Message Text--- From: John Trager Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 00:29:39 -0500 The following is a narrative taken from Sunday Morning's televised 'Meet The Press'. The author is employed by none other than the Washington Post!! _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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73, Eric _..._ Jim Brown wrote: No John, it's a pack of lies and distortions. _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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