ETA of K3

[n1ix]

Hi,
I am a new member to the elecraft reflector.
I ordered my K3 on Feb 9th 08. Can someone give me an idea when it will be
shipped?
My best guess is that it will come sometime in May.

Dave N1IX

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[Jim Cox]

Latest estimate on the Elecraft website is June, but I wouldnt hold my
breath on that...
Jim K4JAF


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Subject: [Elecraft] ETA of K3

> Hi,
> I am a new member to the elecraft reflector.
> I ordered my K3 on Feb 9th 08. Can someone give me an idea when it will be
> shipped?
> My best guess is that it will come sometime in May.
>
> Dave N1IX
>
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[Charly]

My K3 is a super CW rig and a poor SSB rig..... at least to this date....
 
 
1.  AGC blasts from weak to strong sig... does not smooth out the audio enuf.
Vy short tone sigs pierce my eardrums.
No excuse for this problem.
A fix, pse???
 
2. Tighter than 2.20 and the SSB audio really degrades.
This is either a great filter system or my earlier rigs'
(Mk 5 etc.) nice 1.8 INRAD filters were not that sharp.
Below 2.00 on ssb and the voices lose too much of
their intelligibility, sad to say, because I need
1.8, or so, to kill the guy 2 kc above.
 
3.  Many ssb sigs sound harsh and too sharp even
at 2.8, especially when 5 or more are calling at
the same time.  Adding bass with the cut knob helps some.
Using Heil ProSet Plus.
 
4.  NR at any setting degrades weaker ssb sigs beyond
usefulness.  Why is this?
 
 
 
And, the temporary info that appears BRIEFLY in the
vfo B window is too brief for me.
A fix, pse????
 
I gotta get my shack computer on line agn to get updates.  In my
appliance op uses to date, K3 is not sliced bread on ssb.
 
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[Brendan Minish]

On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 13:50 +0000, Charles Harpole wrote:
> My K3 is a super CW rig and a poor SSB rig..... at least to this date....
>  
>
> 1.  AGC blasts from weak to strong sig... does not smooth out the audio enuf.

You can adjust this acg response if you want flatter ,  refer to manual
and adjust to personal taste from flat (limiting ) like to the icom 7800
to very rounded Like some k2's
there is a lot of control over how the AGC works

> Vy short tone sigs pierce my eardrums.
> No excuse for this problem.

What problem, explain please?  

> A fix, pse???

have you tried calibrating the PLL?


> 2. Tighter than 2.20 and the SSB audio really degrades.
> This is either a great filter system or my earlier rigs'
> (Mk 5 etc.) nice 1.8 INRAD filters were not that sharp.
> Below 2.00 on ssb and the voices lose too much of
> their intelligibility, sad to say, because I need
> 1.8, or so, to kill the guy 2 kc above.

 select lo-hi cut and adjust, it's fine, I regularly use 1.8 or less on
SSB here

>  
> 3.  Many ssb sigs sound harsh and too sharp even
> at 2.8, especially when 5 or more are calling at
> the same time.  Adding bass with the cut knob helps some.
> Using Heil ProSet Plus.

use high and low cut on the filters, perhaps Taylor the RX EQ to suit
your ears.
>  
> 4.  NR at any setting degrades weaker ssb sigs beyond
> usefulness.  Why is this?

noise noise reduction, in DSP can not, (no mater what code is used)
deliver the impossible and render readable an SSB sig that is brueid in
the noise. the K3 noise reduction is the best I have heard on any radio
to date but I still prefer it off most of the time and let the brain do
it  
 
>
> And, the temporary info that appears BRIEFLY in the
> vfo B window is too brief for me.
> A fix, pse????

NO Fix please! the delay is right for me !


I came to the K3 from the Icom 7800, the 7800 is for sale I know which
one I prefer to listen to.
 

73
Brendan EI6IZ


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to fix the situation yourself. It‘s dangerous. Leave it to a highly
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[Charly]

Brendan gave me great advice which I will pursue.  Big thanks, 73Charles [hidden email] _______________________________________________
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[drewko]

On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 07:27:02 -0600, Jim K4JAF wrote:

>Latest estimate on the Elecraft website is June, but I wouldnt hold my
>breath on that...

In Dec. the ETA for new orders was April, so looks like it is still
holding at four months. But no, i wouldn't schedule my summer around
it.

73,
Drew
AF2Z
 
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[n1ix]

Thank goodness I don't own a microphone.



-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Brendan Minish
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 9:13 AM
To: Charles Harpole
Cc: Elecraft
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC bad


On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 13:50 +0000, Charles Harpole wrote:
> My K3 is a super CW rig and a poor SSB rig..... at least to this date....
>  
>
> 1.  AGC blasts from weak to strong sig... does not smooth out the audio enuf.

You can adjust this acg response if you want flatter ,  refer to manual
and adjust to personal taste from flat (limiting ) like to the icom 7800
to very rounded Like some k2's
there is a lot of control over how the AGC works

> Vy short tone sigs pierce my eardrums.
> No excuse for this problem.

What problem, explain please?  

> A fix, pse???

have you tried calibrating the PLL?


> 2. Tighter than 2.20 and the SSB audio really degrades.
> This is either a great filter system or my earlier rigs'
> (Mk 5 etc.) nice 1.8 INRAD filters were not that sharp.
> Below 2.00 on ssb and the voices lose too much of
> their intelligibility, sad to say, because I need
> 1.8, or so, to kill the guy 2 kc above.

 select lo-hi cut and adjust, it's fine, I regularly use 1.8 or less on
SSB here

>  
> 3.  Many ssb sigs sound harsh and too sharp even
> at 2.8, especially when 5 or more are calling at
> the same time.  Adding bass with the cut knob helps some.
> Using Heil ProSet Plus.

use high and low cut on the filters, perhaps Taylor the RX EQ to suit
your ears.
>  
> 4.  NR at any setting degrades weaker ssb sigs beyond
> usefulness.  Why is this?

noise noise reduction, in DSP can not, (no mater what code is used)
deliver the impossible and render readable an SSB sig that is brueid in
the noise. the K3 noise reduction is the best I have heard on any radio
to date but I still prefer it off most of the time and let the brain do
it  
 
>
> And, the temporary info that appears BRIEFLY in the
> vfo B window is too brief for me.
> A fix, pse????

NO Fix please! the delay is right for me !


I came to the K3 from the Icom 7800, the 7800 is for sale I know which
one I prefer to listen to.
 

73
Brendan EI6IZ


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to fix the situation yourself. It‘s dangerous. Leave it to a highly
untrained, unqualified, expendable professional.

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[Thomas Kluge-2]

Dave,

Did you got an order confirmation or something similar? I've also placed
an order around Feb 9th but got nothing so far (at least no mail). All I
have is the reference order number... Is it normal or do I have to be a
bit more patient?

Best regards

Tom, DL3DTH

Am Donnerstag, den 21.02.2008, 05:52 -0500 schrieb N1IX:
> Hi,
> I am a new member to the elecraft reflector.
> I ordered my K3 on Feb 9th 08. Can someone give me an idea when it will be
> shipped?
> My best guess is that it will come sometime in May.
>
> Dave N1IX
>


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[Darwin, Keith]

I placed my order at the end of Sept, 2007.  I received an e-mail order
confirmation that gave me the order number and have heard nothing since
then.

I e-mailed a few days ago to include a CW filter with my order and very
quickly received another cheery reply to acknowledge the order change.

Things are fine.  I'm Back to waiting patiently.

- Keith N1AS -
- K2 5411.ssb.100 -
- K3 Wave 3 -

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I've also placed an order around Feb 9th but got nothing so far (at
least no mail). All I have is the reference order number... Is it normal
or do I have to be a bit more patient?
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[Dave Larson-2]

When using the 1.8 kc filter on SSB, turn the shift knob counter clockwise
and you will find very good intelligibility.

Dave, K8AA
K3 #271

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Subject: [Elecraft] K3 AGC bad



My K3 is a super CW rig and a poor SSB rig..... at least to this date....


1.  AGC blasts from weak to strong sig... does not smooth out the audio
enuf.
Vy short tone sigs pierce my eardrums.
No excuse for this problem.
A fix, pse???

2. Tighter than 2.20 and the SSB audio really degrades.
This is either a great filter system or my earlier rigs'
(Mk 5 etc.) nice 1.8 INRAD filters were not that sharp.
Below 2.00 on ssb and the voices lose too much of
their intelligibility, sad to say, because I need
1.8, or so, to kill the guy 2 kc above.

3.  Many ssb sigs sound harsh and too sharp even
at 2.8, especially when 5 or more are calling at
the same time.  Adding bass with the cut knob helps some.
Using Heil ProSet Plus.

4.  NR at any setting degrades weaker ssb sigs beyond
usefulness.  Why is this?



And, the temporary info that appears BRIEFLY in the
vfo B window is too brief for me.
A fix, pse????

I gotta get my shack computer on line agn to get updates.  In my
appliance op uses to date, K3 is not sliced bread on ssb.

73Charles Harpole  [hidden email]
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