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For those who believe Elecraft can't compete in the amp market, I ask you to consider the market into which Elecraft introduced the K3. Now almost 4000 of us have sold or retired other high quality transceivers for the K3. It's excellent that many K3 owners already have quality amps that function well for them. Many of us, however would like to purchase an amp from Elecraft with true K3 compatribility and the kind of quality and service advantages that Elecraft has brought to the K3. K4KGG, Larry ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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lawrence libsch wrote: > Group - > > For those who believe Elecraft can't compete in the amp market, I ask you to consider the market into which Elecraft introduced the K3. Now almost 4000 of us have sold or retired other high quality transceivers for the K3. > It's excellent that many K3 owners already have quality amps that function well for them. Many of us, however would like to purchase an amp from Elecraft with true K3 compatribility and the kind of quality and service advantages that Elecraft has brought to the K3. > > K4KGG, Larry > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I am not so sure. A watt is a watt is a watt and it is very difficult to conceive an amp that is going to be so superior (as the K3 is to every other XVCR) that someone will give up what they have to get one. What would you add to, or do different from, what is already available? The draw of a matching nameplate or color scheme is not enough to make the sale. How many K3/K2 owners are even in the market for an amp? Buck k4ia In a message dated 2/11/2010 10:49:11 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [hidden email] writes: Group - For those who believe Elecraft can't compete in the amp market, I ask you to consider the market into which Elecraft introduced the K3. Now almost 4000 of us have sold or retired other high quality transceivers for the K3. It's excellent that many K3 owners already have quality amps that function well for them. Many of us, however would like to purchase an amp from Elecraft with true K3 compatribility and the kind of quality and service advantages that Elecraft has brought to the K3. K4KGG, Larry ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html In a message dated 2/11/2010 10:49:11 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [hidden email] writes: Group - For those who believe Elecraft can't compete in the amp market, I ask you to consider the market into which Elecraft introduced the K3. Now almost 4000 of us have sold or retired other high quality transceivers for the K3. It's excellent that many K3 owners already have quality amps that function well for them. Many of us, however would like to purchase an amp from Elecraft with true K3 compatribility and the kind of quality and service advantages that Elecraft has brought to the K3. K4KGG, Larry ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I would give up my Icom PW-1 for an Elecraft solid-state amp. Oh, wait a minute.
No, I won't give it up as long as I still have my Icom 756 Pro III but I would very much buy the Elecraft amp given that it is a 1 KW solution at least and the price is not too bad. Well, I might even consider a less then 1 KW amp. A watt may be a watt on the receiving end but they are not always the same on the sending end. And, with regard to amp ownership and usefulness, I am always on the sending end, never on the receiving end. So, what features would an Elecraft amp add that you can't get elsewhere: 1. Wayne & Eric. 2. Hopefully, Kit Quality with that "we are not finished yet" attitude for add-ons. [Actually, what do you add onto an amplifier?]. 3. This forum which is something that is unique to this hobby and especially when you are like myself, a person who can be very technical in some topics, but I am no expert in most of these ham radio technologies. Having access to the many smart and expert people here is a great asset. 73, phil, K7PEH On Feb 11, 2010, at 8:07 AM, [hidden email] wrote: > > I am not so sure. A watt is a watt is a watt and it is very difficult to > conceive an amp that is going to be so superior (as the K3 is to every > other XVCR) that someone will give up what they have to get one. What would > you add to, or do different from, what is already available? The draw of a > matching nameplate or color scheme is not enough to make the sale. How many > K3/K2 owners are even in the market for an amp? > > Buck > k4ia > > In a message dated 2/11/2010 10:49:11 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > [hidden email] writes: > Group - > > For those who believe Elecraft can't compete in the amp market, I ask you > to consider the market into which Elecraft introduced the K3. Now almost > 4000 of us have sold or retired other high quality transceivers for the K3. > It's excellent that many K3 owners already have quality amps that function > well for them. Many of us, however would like to purchase an amp from > Elecraft with true K3 compatribility and the kind of quality and service > advantages that Elecraft has brought to the K3. > > K4KGG, Larry > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > In a message dated 2/11/2010 10:49:11 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > [hidden email] writes: > Group - > > For those who believe Elecraft can't compete in the amp market, I ask you > to consider the market into which Elecraft introduced the K3. Now almost > 4000 of us have sold or retired other high quality transceivers for the K3. > It's excellent that many K3 owners already have quality amps that function > well for them. Many of us, however would like to purchase an amp from > Elecraft with true K3 compatribility and the kind of quality and service > advantages that Elecraft has brought to the K3. > > K4KGG, Larry > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I agree whole heartedly. I don't want an Alpha or any of the other
brands out there. I want an Elecraft Amp to match my station. Stan Rife W5EWA -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Duncan Carter Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 9:53 AM To: lawrence libsch Cc: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Amps Right! lawrence libsch wrote: > Group - > > For those who believe Elecraft can't compete in the amp market, I ask you to consider the market into which Elecraft introduced the K3. Now almost 4000 of us have sold or retired other high quality transceivers for the K3. > It's excellent that many K3 owners already have quality amps that function well for them. Many of us, however would like to purchase an amp from Elecraft with true K3 compatribility and the kind of quality and service advantages that Elecraft has brought to the K3. > > K4KGG, Larry > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2681 - Release Date: 02/11/10 01:35:00 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I wonder what true compatibility is. An amplifier either works well with
the K3 or it does not. I know that both Acom 1000 and Acom 2000A work perfectly with the K3. Interfacing an amplifier is not such a big deal with the K3. Of course some of our fellows have questions from time to time but I believe that most people get their amplifier to work just fine with the K3. I should love to see Elecraft with successful amplifiers which were making good money for them. I would be very sorry to see them bring out such a major product which did not return its investment. Maybe Elecraft will show us all again that they can beat all the competition but amplifiers are a bit more basic. An old Heathkit SB200/220 can still do wonders to raise the output a few dB. 73 Doug EI2CN -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of lawrence libsch Sent: 11 February 2010 15:49 To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Amps Group - For those who believe Elecraft can't compete in the amp market, I ask you to consider the market into which Elecraft introduced the K3. Now almost 4000 of us have sold or retired other high quality transceivers for the K3. It's excellent that many K3 owners already have quality amps that function well for them. Many of us, however would like to purchase an amp from Elecraft with true K3 compatribility and the kind of quality and service advantages that Elecraft has brought to the K3. K4KGG, Larry ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Buck, Group -
Snip > A watt is a watt is a watt and it is very difficult to >conceive an amp that is going to be so superior (as the K3 is to every >other XVCR) that someone will give up what they have to get one. What would >you add to, or do different from, what is already available? I don't think this is a relevant question. How many K3 owners could have listed the superior qualities of the K3 in answer to a similar question about a new transceiver prior to the introduction of the K3? > How many K3/K2 owners are even in the market for an amp? How many current K3 owners were in the market for a K3 when the K3 was introduced? And purchasers of a new Elecrft amp need not come only from the ranks of K2/K3 owners. K4KGG, Larry > > What would you add to, or do different from, what is already available? How many >K3/K2 owners are even in the market for an amp? How many K3 owners could have answered this question for the K3 prior to its introduction? ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I'll weigh in, just in case the Aptos crew is taking notes and
counting votes. ;-) An off-the-shelf, high-end appliance to compete with THP or SPE would be a high-cost, low-volume, low-profit venture, something I would not want to undertake in the current economic conditions if I were CEO of a small company like Elecraft. Personally, I'd love a small (500w or 600w) solid-state amplifier kit that I can build myself (a *real* kit, with soldering iron and everything!). Some of us don't have the time, tools, and/or smarts to homebrew such a creature on our own and would jump all over a kit like this. It doesn't have to be anything revolutionary, just a simple amp built around MRF150's or whatever. Base model would work with any rig to make it appeal to the mass market, with options to expand functionality (built-in ATU, K2/K3 interface, etc.), kind of like the way the K2 is marketed -- buy what you need. If it could be sold for less than a comparable Ameritron, I'd buy one in a heartbeat. 73, Paul WW2PT On Feb 11, 2010, at 9:48 AM, lawrence libsch wrote: > Group - > > For those who believe Elecraft can't compete in the amp market, > I ask you to consider the market into which Elecraft introduced the > K3. Now almost 4000 of us have sold or retired other high quality > transceivers for the K3. > It's excellent that many K3 owners already have quality amps > that function well for them. Many of us, however would like to > purchase an amp from Elecraft with true K3 compatribility and the > kind of quality and service advantages that Elecraft has brought to > the K3. > > > K4KGG, Larry Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I would also vote for a soldering style kit but I also recognize that there could
be some SMT components already in place. Indeed, there are kits like this already where many of the components are SMT on the PCB but there is still work to be done with other components and a soldering iron. I like the idea of a full soldering solution for the PA board though as that would provide the kit interest and motivation with enough challenge adding new skills to deal with high-current RF transistors, cooling issues, and possibly winding your own splitters and combiners (if they are needed). I disagree somewhat with the "If I were CEO..." comment. That logic may be true for a big company but small aggressive companies win more often by taking the less conservative road and springing out with new ideas. Isn't that where Elecraft came from in the first place. Adding to that idea, back in 1978, several of us engineers & mathematicians and programmers had an idea for a new somewhat aggressive business venture so we proposed this to the CEO and other executives of our company. They turned us down. So, we split and formed our own company and within 5 years we had totally surpassed our former company beating them out on more and more competitive bids (large custom projects) in the north american market. Our former company chose to get out of the market that they could no longer effectively compete and they sold that division to someone else. 73, phil, K7PEH On Feb 11, 2010, at 10:15 AM, WW2PT wrote: > I'll weigh in, just in case the Aptos crew is taking notes and > counting votes. ;-) > > An off-the-shelf, high-end appliance to compete with THP or SPE would > be a high-cost, low-volume, low-profit venture, something I would not > want to undertake in the current economic conditions if I were CEO of > a small company like Elecraft. > > Personally, I'd love a small (500w or 600w) solid-state amplifier kit > that I can build myself (a *real* kit, with soldering iron and > everything!). Some of us don't have the time, tools, and/or smarts to > homebrew such a creature on our own and would jump all over a kit like > this. It doesn't have to be anything revolutionary, just a simple amp > built around MRF150's or whatever. Base model would work with any rig > to make it appeal to the mass market, with options to expand > functionality (built-in ATU, K2/K3 interface, etc.), kind of like the > way the K2 is marketed -- buy what you need. If it could be sold for > less than a comparable Ameritron, I'd buy one in a heartbeat. > > 73, > Paul WW2PT > > > > On Feb 11, 2010, at 9:48 AM, lawrence libsch wrote: > >> Group - >> >> For those who believe Elecraft can't compete in the amp market, >> I ask you to consider the market into which Elecraft introduced the >> K3. Now almost 4000 of us have sold or retired other high quality >> transceivers for the K3. >> It's excellent that many K3 owners already have quality amps >> that function well for them. Many of us, however would like to >> purchase an amp from Elecraft with true K3 compatribility and the >> kind of quality and service advantages that Elecraft has brought to >> the K3. >> >> >> K4KGG, Larry > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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As Paul said "Personally, I'd love a small (500w or 600w) solid-state amplifier kit
that I can build myself (a *real* kit, with soldering iron and everything!). " Amen! A kit with soldering would keep the cost down and give us K3 folks something to make smoke with! My vote is yes for small solid state kit. Dan Dan AB3EN |
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I find it kind of funny that all these folks who want Elecraft to develop and market a high power amplifier are able to list all of the features it should have, but not a single one so far (including the other "met too" answers to this particular post) are able to define how much they'd be willing to pay for it. So I'm going to ask it outright ... what price would be your upper limit for a legal limit amplifier from Elecraft? Please specify whether you are including autotune or not. 73, Dave AB7E ------Original Mail------ From: "lawrence libsch" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 07:48:50 -0800 PST Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Amps Group - For those who believe Elecraft can't compete in the amp market, I ask you to consider the market into which Elecraft introduced the K3. Now almost 4000 of us have sold or retired other high quality transceivers for the K3. It's excellent that many K3 owners already have quality amps that function well for them. Many of us, however would like to purchase an amp from Elecraft with true K3 compatibility and the kind of quality and service advantages that Elecraft has brought to the K3. K4KGG, Larry ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Hi Phil,
As I recall, the place Elecraft came from in the first place was a seller of really cool and affordable kits for those who didn't want another expensive plug-and-play appliance. ;-) 73, WW2PT On Feb 11, 2010, at 12:34 PM, Phil Hystad wrote: > I disagree somewhat with the "If I were CEO..." comment. That logic > may > be true for a big company but small aggressive companies win more > often > by taking the less conservative road and springing out with new > ideas. Isn't > that where Elecraft came from in the first place. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I have no doubt that a full featured 1.5KW output SS amp with tuner yada
yada would be in the 10,000 or over category. And I am sure there is a limited market for that, but look at how many Ameritron amps are sold, the SS series, I have replaced finals in many of the ALS series amps. there is nothing special or exotic about those amps, making a kit that used the same type finals, was truly breakin capable, had proper cooling, and in a same size matching cabinet as the K3 would not be difficult at all. I do not see any problem for any one who can assemble a K2 to build an amp kit, it would be much easier. And sales would be 10 times more than a 1.5 KW amp at the higher price. Cover 160 to 6 meters. I would be interested in one just for a driver for my homebrew amps. the K3 at 100 watts in insufficient, so I use an Alpha 99 with the K3, and it works QSK etc fine. Close match to the K3 also, black with white labels. My only suggestion to Elecraft is to not leak any new products until they are very close to release, outsiders and some insiders are getting the opinion that if a product is "announced" you can figure a year to 1 1/2 years before you can actually own it. Not a real good reputation. May work for a product like the K3 one time, but repeats on "delays" will kill the goose that laid the golden egg. Merv KH7C > As Paul said "Personally, I'd love a small (500w or 600w) solid-state > amplifier kit > that I can build myself (a *real* kit, with soldering iron and > everything!). " > > Amen! A kit with soldering would keep the cost down and give us K3 folks > something to make smoke with! > > My vote is yes for small solid state kit. > > Dan > > ----- > > Dan AB3EN > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Good question, Dave.
$3600.00 for a 1Kw 160-6M with auto-tune. 73, Mike NF4L Dave - AB7E wrote: > I find it kind of funny that all these folks who want Elecraft to develop and market a high power amplifier are able to list all of the features it should have, but not a single one so far (including the other "met too" answers to this particular post) are able to define how much they'd be willing to pay for it. So I'm going to ask it outright ... what price would be your upper limit for a legal limit amplifier from Elecraft? Please specify whether you are including autotune or not. > > 73, > Dave AB7E > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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The Acom 2000A is a fine amp and works great with my K3.
The amp is a beast to move though and I would consider selling it and getting an Elecraft amp when and if they become available. 73 Tony W7GO Doug Turnbull wrote: > I wonder what true compatibility is. An amplifier either works well with > the K3 or it does not. I know that both Acom 1000 and Acom 2000A work > perfectly with the K3. Interfacing an amplifier is not such a big deal > with the K3. Of course some of our fellows have questions from time to > time but I believe that most people get their amplifier to work just fine > with the K3. > > I should love to see Elecraft with successful amplifiers which were making > good money for them. I would be very sorry to see them bring out such a > major product which did not return its investment. > > Maybe Elecraft will show us all again that they can beat all the competition > but amplifiers are a bit more basic. An old Heathkit SB200/220 can still > do wonders to raise the output a few dB. > > 73 Doug EI2CN > > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of lawrence libsch > Sent: 11 February 2010 15:49 > To: [hidden email] > Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Amps > > Group - > > For those who believe Elecraft can't compete in the amp market, I ask > you to consider the market into which Elecraft introduced the K3. Now almost > 4000 of us have sold or retired other high quality transceivers for the K3. > It's excellent that many K3 owners already have quality amps that > function well for them. Many of us, however would like to purchase an amp > from Elecraft with true K3 compatribility and the kind of quality and > service advantages that Elecraft has brought to the K3. > > K4KGG, > Larry > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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OK, I might as well document my personal wish list:
500W is more than enough. I want it physically small and acoustically quiet. Solid state. Auto tune and QSK with K3. AC powered. Kit is fine. No internal tuner, but see options below. Target price $2K. Option: REMOTE/WEATHERPROOF auto tuner. Target price $1K. Then I'll be happy (and quiet). 73 Craig AC0DS ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I wouldn't give up my old SB-200, but I would MOST CERTAINLY buy an Elecraft
amplifier should they choose to continue down the path to production. I think they only need to build one amp at this time though, say in the 800 to 1000 watt range. And I don't think it needs to be 100% duty cycle, but certainly something that would support digital modes for several minutes (8 to 10)at half power, or maybe full power. An 8 minute transmit time on digital is a long transmission. I'm no amp expert for sure, but this would seem like an adequate duty cycle. I don't think they need to design another Alpha amp that some of us can't afford. I was going to be quite happy with the KPA-800 for around 3500 bucks (I believe), and it was all automatic with a tuner. As someone stated, making it a modular kit like the K3 is a very good idea. That way you can buy the basic amp and then add accessories as you can afford them (automatic rig following, tuner, built in wattmeter, etc.). Stan Rife W5EWA -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of lawrence libsch Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 11:46 AM To: [hidden email]; [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Amps Buck, Group - Snip > A watt is a watt is a watt and it is very difficult to >conceive an amp that is going to be so superior (as the K3 is to every >other XVCR) that someone will give up what they have to get one. What would >you add to, or do different from, what is already available? I don't think this is a relevant question. How many K3 owners could have listed the superior qualities of the K3 in answer to a similar question about a new transceiver prior to the introduction of the K3? > How many K3/K2 owners are even in the market for an amp? How many current K3 owners were in the market for a K3 when the K3 was introduced? And purchasers of a new Elecrft amp need not come only from the ranks of K2/K3 owners. K4KGG, Larry > > What would you add to, or do different from, what is already available? How many >K3/K2 owners are even in the market for an amp? How many K3 owners could have answered this question for the K3 prior to its introduction? ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2681 - Release Date: 02/11/10 01:35:00 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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In reply to this post by Craig Smith
Since we're dreaming, how about a base model kit (500W) with the
option to add up to two additional 500W PA modules via a power combiner circuit. This would allow people to configure it to their needs and/or budget and it would meet Phil's "something new" requirement. Optional: auto-tuner, optional interface (remote band switching, antenna management, SO2R operation, RS232 control, etc.). Offer a fully assembled version for those with Instant Gratification Syndrome, and everyone's happy! An added benefit would be fault tolerance; the amp could continue to operate at reduced power in the event of failure of an individual PA module -- just pop out the damaged module and repair/replace it. de WW2PT ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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In reply to this post by David Gilbert
Doesn't have to be legal limit. Seems everyone is expressing
something in the less than 1000 watt category. What ever Elecraft comes out with in this venue is going to be acceptable price wise because of their superior marketing skill. The KPA-800 with all the bells and whistles was priced at around 3500 if memory serves me correctly. I'd pay that for a full featured 800 watt out amp. I think the modular approach is a better idea. Get the basic amp and add full control & a tuner, etc, as you can afford it. Stan Rife W5EWA -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Dave - AB7E Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 12:37 PM To: [hidden email]; [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Amps I find it kind of funny that all these folks who want Elecraft to develop and market a high power amplifier are able to list all of the features it should have, but not a single one so far (including the other "met too" answers to this particular post) are able to define how much they'd be willing to pay for it. So I'm going to ask it outright ... what price would be your upper limit for a legal limit amplifier from Elecraft? Please specify whether you are including autotune or not. 73, Dave AB7E ------Original Mail------ From: "lawrence libsch" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 07:48:50 -0800 PST Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Amps Group - For those who believe Elecraft can't compete in the amp market, I ask you to consider the market into which Elecraft introduced the K3. Now almost 4000 of us have sold or retired other high quality transceivers for the K3. It's excellent that many K3 owners already have quality amps that function well for them. Many of us, however would like to purchase an amp from Elecraft with true K3 compatibility and the kind of quality and service advantages that Elecraft has brought to the K3. K4KGG, Larry ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2681 - Release Date: 02/11/10 01:35:00 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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In reply to this post by Merv Schweigert
Read the previous posts from a year and a half ago. The KPA-1500 was
priced at around 4500 bucks. Stan Rife W5EWA -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Merv Schweigert Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 1:11 PM To: AB3EN Cc: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Amps I have no doubt that a full featured 1.5KW output SS amp with tuner yada yada would be in the 10,000 or over category. And I am sure there is a limited market for that, but look at how many Ameritron amps are sold, the SS series, I have replaced finals in many of the ALS series amps. there is nothing special or exotic about those amps, making a kit that used the same type finals, was truly breakin capable, had proper cooling, and in a same size matching cabinet as the K3 would not be difficult at all. I do not see any problem for any one who can assemble a K2 to build an amp kit, it would be much easier. And sales would be 10 times more than a 1.5 KW amp at the higher price. Cover 160 to 6 meters. I would be interested in one just for a driver for my homebrew amps. the K3 at 100 watts in insufficient, so I use an Alpha 99 with the K3, and it works QSK etc fine. Close match to the K3 also, black with white labels. My only suggestion to Elecraft is to not leak any new products until they are very close to release, outsiders and some insiders are getting the opinion that if a product is "announced" you can figure a year to 1 1/2 years before you can actually own it. Not a real good reputation. May work for a product like the K3 one time, but repeats on "delays" will kill the goose that laid the golden egg. Merv KH7C > As Paul said "Personally, I'd love a small (500w or 600w) solid-state > amplifier kit > that I can build myself (a *real* kit, with soldering iron and > everything!). " > > Amen! A kit with soldering would keep the cost down and give us K3 folks > something to make smoke with! > > My vote is yes for small solid state kit. > > Dan > > ----- > > Dan AB3EN > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2681 - Release Date: 02/11/10 01:35:00 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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