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Elecraft Antennas in trees

Martin Evans
Sorry for the off topic query but a few years ago I saw on this reflector a
link to a site which showed a design for a system of two poles and cords
which was used to drop a weight over a tree bow and get further up the tree
by stages.

I cannot use a projectile since there is a house immediately behind.

Anybody spotted this design?

Thanks
Martin
M0KWV, K1
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Re: Elecraft Antennas in trees

N4LQ-2
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All you need is a dog, a cat and a rifle.

Steve Ellington
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Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Antennas in trees


> Sorry for the off topic query but a few years ago I saw on this reflector
> a
> link to a site which showed a design for a system of two poles and cords
> which was used to drop a weight over a tree bow and get further up the
> tree
> by stages.
>
> I cannot use a projectile since there is a house immediately behind.
>
> Anybody spotted this design?
>
> Thanks
> Martin
> M0KWV, K1
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Re: Elecraft Antennas in trees

Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
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Hi Martin,

By any chance are you thinking about the method I use? We discussed it a few
years ago, please contact me off-List if you think that it might be. I have
since 'refined' the hardware used to get up 100ft plus pine trees in roughly
25ft stages, which also allows accurate positioning of a line.

73,
Geoff
GM4ESD


Martin Evans wrote on Friday, July 25, 2008 5:46 PM

> Sorry for the off topic query but a few years ago I saw on this reflector
> a
> link to a site which showed a design for a system of two poles and cords
> which was used to drop a weight over a tree bow and get further up the
> tree
> by stages.
>
> I cannot use a projectile since there is a house immediately behind.
>
> Anybody spotted this design?
>
> Thanks
> Martin
> M0KWV, K1

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Re: Elecraft Antennas in trees

Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
Ron,

The information which I have sent to those who expressed interest contained
a sketch which I believe would not be allowed in a post to the List. I could
replace the diagram by some text if you think that I should post it, but
unfortunately I won't be able to do that today. I hope that you have
received the information.

73,
Geoff
GM4ESD


Ron AC7AC wrote:

> Whatziz this "off line" stuff Geoff? I'm sure a number of us are
> interested. I know I am.
>
> Don't be afraid of the self-appointed "list cops". There's only one
> moderator and he's heartily endorsed such digressions within reason.
> Experience shows that if it's something an Elecraft rig owner might be
> interested in to enjoy building, modifying or operating his rig, it's
> something that belongs here.

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K3 Sidetone Level Beta 2.20

Don Ehrlich
I just discovered that I can no longer adjust my CW sidetone level.  Holding
LEVEL brings up a menu item   dSP t1-6.  This seems related to firmware beta
2.20.

Am I doing something wrong?

Don K7FJ

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Re: K3 Sidetone Level Beta 2.20

KK7P
> I just discovered that I can no longer adjust my CW sidetone level.

Sideotne amplitude is set by MON in CW mode.  LEVEL is part of the Noise
Blanker.

73,

Lyle KK7P

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Re: Elecraft Antennas in trees

Benny Aumala
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Best and easiest way to shoot antenna is here:

http://www.antennalaunchers.com/csv19/index.htm

I tried almost all imaginable systems during 50 years.
And tennis ball does not harm anything when coming down.
This can be ordered as a kit, too.
Smile!

Benny     OH9NB
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Re: Re: Elecraft Antennas in trees

Brett Howard
HAHA oh thats JUST what I need!!! ;)

I've already got a few fishing weights up in the tree in the back
yard...  Its a big cedar and getting through it is a bear.  So as you
get part way through and are realing back those things tend to wind
themselves around a branch and not want to let go.  If I was using one
of these I'd have brightly colored tennis balls up there.  

It'be christmas year round!

Do gotta admit this would be one FUN toy for FD!

~Brett (KC7OTG)

On Sat, 2008-07-26 at 23:14 +0300, Benny Aumala wrote:

> Best and easiest way to shoot antenna is here:
>
> http://www.antennalaunchers.com/csv19/index.htm
>
> I tried almost all imaginable systems during 50 years.
> And tennis ball does not harm anything when coming down.
> This can be ordered as a kit, too.
> Smile!
>
> Benny     OH9NB
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Re: Re: Elecraft Antennas in trees

Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
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As you have I have tried many different ways of getting a line into a tree
during the past 50 years, well 60 :-)  The problems that I have always found
with shooting, casting or throwing a thin line with a weight or ball at its
end is that too often the end wraps itself around a branch or gets stuck in
a piece of broken bark, and secondly to place a line exactly where I want it
in a 100ft tree is almost impossible due to human error, or breeze causing
the line to drift. Shooting tennis balls is a good idea, but when I tried
this method  too often a ball would bounce off a branch or become stuck. It
would seem that I need more practice in shooting tennis ball!

A local problem is that there are several Buzzards living in the trees who
have an unhealthy interest in flying objects!

73,
Geoff
GM4ESD


----- Original Message -----
From: "Benny Aumala" <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 9:14 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] Re: Elecraft Antennas in trees


> Best and easiest way to shoot antenna is here:
>
> http://www.antennalaunchers.com/csv19/index.htm
>
> I tried almost all imaginable systems during 50 years.
> And tennis ball does not harm anything when coming down.
> This can be ordered as a kit, too.
> Smile!
>
> Benny     OH9NB

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Re: Re: Elecraft Antennas in trees

Brett Howard
Perhaps you could "practice" your tennis ball shooting skills and deter
these buzzards in your area at the same time...  "two birds with one
tennis ball?"  

~Brett (KC7OTG)

On Sun, 2008-07-27 at 09:24 +0100, Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy wrote:

> As you have I have tried many different ways of getting a line into a tree
> during the past 50 years, well 60 :-)  The problems that I have always found
> with shooting, casting or throwing a thin line with a weight or ball at its
> end is that too often the end wraps itself around a branch or gets stuck in
> a piece of broken bark, and secondly to place a line exactly where I want it
> in a 100ft tree is almost impossible due to human error, or breeze causing
> the line to drift. Shooting tennis balls is a good idea, but when I tried
> this method  too often a ball would bounce off a branch or become stuck. It
> would seem that I need more practice in shooting tennis ball!
>
> A local problem is that there are several Buzzards living in the trees who
> have an unhealthy interest in flying objects!
>
> 73,
> Geoff
> GM4ESD
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Benny Aumala" <[hidden email]>
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 9:14 PM
> Subject: [Elecraft] Re: Elecraft Antennas in trees
>
>
> > Best and easiest way to shoot antenna is here:
> >
> > http://www.antennalaunchers.com/csv19/index.htm
> >
> > I tried almost all imaginable systems during 50 years.
> > And tennis ball does not harm anything when coming down.
> > This can be ordered as a kit, too.
> > Smile!
> >
> > Benny     OH9NB
>
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Re: Re: Elecraft Antennas in trees

Simon (HB9DRV)
Interfering with Buzzards is a serious crime in the UK, resulting in prison
/ hefty fines.

Simon Brown, HB9DRV

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From: "Brett Howard" <[hidden email]>

> Perhaps you could "practice" your tennis ball shooting skills and deter
> these buzzards in your area at the same time...  "two birds with one
> tennis ball?"
 

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Re: Re: Elecraft Antennas in trees

Brett Howard
Oh it is here too...  My comment was mostly tongue in cheek...  But it
would be fun practice. ;)

On Sun, 2008-07-27 at 11:27 +0200, Simon Brown (HB9DRV) wrote:

> Interfering with Buzzards is a serious crime in the UK, resulting in prison
> / hefty fines.
>
> Simon Brown, HB9DRV
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Brett Howard" <[hidden email]>
>
> > Perhaps you could "practice" your tennis ball shooting skills and deter
> > these buzzards in your area at the same time...  "two birds with one
> > tennis ball?"
>  
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Re: Re: Elecraft Antennas in trees

Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
Good 'law', fine birds. Anyway a Buzzard could demolish a flying tennis ball
:-)

73,
Geoff
GM4ESD

From: "Brett Howard" <[hidden email]>

> Oh it is here too...  My comment was mostly tongue in cheek...  But it
> would be fun practice. ;)
>
> On Sun, 2008-07-27 at 11:27 +0200, Simon Brown (HB9DRV) wrote:
>> Interfering with Buzzards is a serious crime in the UK, resulting in
>> prison
>> / hefty fines.
>>
>> Simon Brown, HB9DRV
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Brett Howard" <[hidden email]>
>>
>> > Perhaps you could "practice" your tennis ball shooting skills and deter
>> > these buzzards in your area at the same time...  "two birds with one
>> > tennis ball?"

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Re: Re: Elecraft Antennas in trees

gm3sek
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Simon Brown (HB9DRV) wrote:
>Interfering with Buzzards is a serious crime in the UK, resulting in
>prison / hefty fines.
>

A completely different bird from the American buzzard, by the way.


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Re: Elecraft Antennas in trees

David Woolley (E.L)
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Benny Aumala wrote:
>
> http://www.antennalaunchers.com/csv19/index.htm

That URL seems to lead to a cybersquatter (the sort that gives you
their search engine results).

It might, though, be worth noting that professional tree climbers use
throw bags and slick line to get a messenger over a tree limb.  The
throw bags are tough bags filled with around 12oz of ball bearings and
the slick link is typically a 5mm rope made from slippery plastic.



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RE: Elecraft Antennas in trees

Charly

I am not a professional tree climber and do not

even play one on tv, BUT I recommend using a

light rope with a plastic bottle partly filled with water

as the throwing weight.  That way, if the bottle breaks,

u do not have "12 oz" of ball bearings raining down on

ur or ur neighbor's heads.  Also, for the times u miss and the

water bottle gets hung up in a tree, when it finally comes

loose, all u get is a little wet and a light plastic bottle coming down!

Also, same level of safety when the water bottle comes loose from

the rope in mid flight.  

A slingshot or bow/arrow look great, but take care of down range hits.  73


Charles Harpole

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> Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 12:14:11 +0100
> From: [hidden email]
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Antennas in trees
>
> Benny Aumala wrote:
>>
>> http://www.antennalaunchers.com/csv19/index.htm
>
> That URL seems to lead to a cybersquatter (the sort that gives you
> their search engine results).
>
> It might, though, be worth noting that professional tree climbers use
> throw bags and slick line to get a messenger over a tree limb. The
> throw bags are tough bags filled with around 12oz of ball bearings and
> the slick link is typically a 5mm rope made from slippery plastic.
>
>
>
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RE: Re: Elecraft Antennas in trees

Dan Barker
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Luckily, they think the "brains" in a Hang-glider are in the "beak", not
dangling 5 feet below!

Dan / WG4S / K2 #2456

<snip>

Good 'law', fine birds. Anyway a Buzzard could demolish a flying tennis ball
:-)

73,
Geoff
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