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Michael Walker

Elecraft Equipment chat group

Hi All

I am thinking of starting an Elecraft email forum that would focus only on
Elecraft equipment.

While I like this list for the Elecraft discussions, about 50% of it is
related to off topic items and they flood my inbox with hundreds of emails.

How many of you would be interested?

73 all, Mike va3mw
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Hi
I´m in
PY5EG - Oms

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Hi All

I am thinking of starting an Elecraft email forum that would focus only on Elecraft equipment.

While I like this list for the Elecraft discussions, about 50% of it is related to off topic items and they flood my inbox with hundreds of emails.

How many of you would be interested?

73 all, Mike va3mw
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Wes Stewart-2

Re: Elecraft Equipment chat group

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Count me out.

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> How many of you would be interested?
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Count me out as well. I just stick to this forum.

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主題︰ Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Equipment chat group

Count me out.

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> How many of you would be interested?
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Rose

Re: Elecraft Equipment chat group

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No interest here.

73

Ken - K0PP

On May 1, 2017 06:07, "Michael Walker" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi All
>
> I am thinking of starting an Elecraft email forum that would focus only on
> Elecraft equipment.
>
> While I like this list for the Elecraft discussions, about 50% of it is
> related to off topic items and they flood my inbox with hundreds of emails.
>
> How many of you would be interested?
>
> 73 all, Mike va3mw
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Stephen G4SJP

Re: Elecraft Equipment chat group

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Count me out too.

73 Stephen G4SJP

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> Count me out.
>
> On 5/1/2017 5:05 AM, Michael Walker wrote:
>
>> How many of you would be interested?
>>
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Jim Rhodes-2

Re: Elecraft Equipment chat group

With this one we get "official" information when things happen. So most of
us would remain on this reflector for that. Why would we want to then join
another list to further dilute the information content. Count me as a no.

Jim Rhodes
K0XU

On May 1, 2017 07:59, "Stephen Prior" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Count me out too.
>
> 73 Stephen G4SJP
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> On 1 May 2017 at 13:45, Wes Stewart <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> > Count me out.
> >
> > On 5/1/2017 5:05 AM, Michael Walker wrote:
> >
> >> How many of you would be interested?
> >>
> >>
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Bert Garcia N8NN

Re: Elecraft Equipment chat group

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Count me in for a new group! With all the NVIS-CB-Earthquake stuff and
other O.T. posts, I'm outtta here.

As a new Elecraft owner, I signed on to learn about Elecraft. I asked a few
questions about my Elecraft gear, got some good answers and supportive
replies.

But now there's too much non-Elecraft junk. I'm gone!

Bert N8NN

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
Michael Walker
Sent: Monday, May 1, 2017 8:06 AM
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Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Equipment chat group

Hi All

I am thinking of starting an Elecraft email forum that would focus only on
Elecraft equipment.

While I like this list for the Elecraft discussions, about 50% of it is
related to off topic items and they flood my inbox with hundreds of emails.

How many of you would be interested?

73 all, Mike va3mw
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Chester Alderman

Re: Elecraft Equipment chat group

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Without a doubt....count me out!

Sometimes it is true that off topic discussions persist way too long, but we
just have to keep in mind that these guys own and are responsible for
running a profitable company and we should be grateful that they even have
any time to occasionally monitor this reflector. In my humble opinion, there
is nothing calling for another reflector except for those who may be too
lazy to reach for their delete key.

Let's not try to fix something that is not broken!

73,
Tom - W4BQF

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Michael Walker
Sent: Monday, May 1, 2017 8:06 AM
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Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Equipment chat group

Hi All

I am thinking of starting an Elecraft email forum that would focus only on
Elecraft equipment.

While I like this list for the Elecraft discussions, about 50% of it is
related to off topic items and they flood my inbox with hundreds of emails.

How many of you would be interested?

73 all, Mike va3mw
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John Lemay

Re: Elecraft Equipment chat group

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I'm sure we don't need another Elecraft group - what we do need is more
respect from those who think this is a place to post almost anything OT.

Count me out.

John G4ZTR

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Michael Walker
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Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Equipment chat group

Hi All

I am thinking of starting an Elecraft email forum that would focus only on
Elecraft equipment.

While I like this list for the Elecraft discussions, about 50% of it is
related to off topic items and they flood my inbox with hundreds of emails.

How many of you would be interested?

73 all, Mike va3mw
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Charlie T, K3ICH

Re: Elecraft Equipment chat group

Not me either.

Not while I have a working delete key.
That plus lots of the "OT" threads are quite interesting.

Charlie k3ICH

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Lemay
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 9:29 AM
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Equipment chat group

I'm sure we don't need another Elecraft group - what we do need is more
respect from those who think this is a place to post almost anything OT.

Count me out.

John G4ZTR

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Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Equipment chat group

Hi All

I am thinking of starting an Elecraft email forum that would focus only on
Elecraft equipment.

While I like this list for the Elecraft discussions, about 50% of it is
related to off topic items and they flood my inbox with hundreds of emails.

How many of you would be interested?

73 all, Mike va3mw
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Michael Walker

Re: Elecraft Equipment chat group

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Someone did change this to OT, but it really isn't.

As others have also mentioned is that this is a list that is heavily
diluted by so many OT issues.

This is the only list that I am part of that varies like a club meeting.
And, that is OK, it just isn't OK for all of us.

For those that have replied, directly to me, I'm running higher than 50%
for a unique list.

I'm only just outlining a need.

many thanks

Mike va3mw
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N2TK

FW: Elecraft Equipment chat group

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Nope, not interested in a new forum.
I agree some topics stretch the interest quite a bit for an Elecraft
subject. But many times I learn something. And If I have no interest or get
bored with a subject I just use the Delete key.

73,
N2TK, Tony

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Michael Walker
Sent: Monday, May 1, 2017 8:06 AM
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Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Equipment chat group

Hi All

I am thinking of starting an Elecraft email forum that would focus only on
Elecraft equipment.

While I like this list for the Elecraft discussions, about 50% of it is
related to off topic items and they flood my inbox with hundreds of emails.

How many of you would be interested?

73 all, Mike va3mw
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k6mkf

Re: Elecraft Equipment chat group

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Hi Mike,

I've seen this attempted with other forums for other topics. Inevitably,
the OT emails reach the same level in the new forum as well. It's just
human nature.

For my part, I'll stick with this Elecraft forum.

- 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, Past President - NCDXC

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
> Michael Walker
> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:06 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Equipment chat group
>
> Hi All
>
> I am thinking of starting an Elecraft email forum that would focus only on
> Elecraft equipment.
>
> While I like this list for the Elecraft discussions, about 50% of it is

related to off

> topic items and they flood my inbox with hundreds of emails.
>
> How many of you would be interested?
>
> 73 all, Mike va3mw
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John Payne-2

Re: FW: Elecraft Equipment chat group

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Nope, why reinvent the wheel?

W4CWZ

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> Nope, not interested in a new forum.
>

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Bill K9YEQ

Re: Elecraft Equipment chat group

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Been there done that already. Tried that a couple of years ago... got 8 new users, including Wayne, and there were no exchanges. It is one more list. Doesn't work.

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

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Sent: Monday, May 1, 2017 8:05 AM
To: Stephen Prior <[hidden email]>
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Equipment chat group

With this one we get "official" information when things happen. So most of us would remain on this reflector for that. Why would we want to then join another list to further dilute the information content. Count me as a no.

Jim Rhodes
K0XU

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> Count me out too.
>
> 73 Stephen G4SJP
>
> On 1 May 2017 at 13:45, Wes Stewart <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> > Count me out.
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> >
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Michael Walker

Re: FW: Elecraft Equipment chat group

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It is getting out of hand.

We just had about 50 emails on RACES and MARS. Even Eric told everyone to
shut it down as a moderator, yet everyone ignored him. It seems (and I
haven't measured) that we are 50/50 off topic to on topic.

For those that would prefer to stay try to Elecraft equipment discussions,
it looks like I will be starting another group. I'll let those interested
where it will be hosted by tomorrow.

For those that are not interested, that is fine. No pressure here, just
trying to solve a problem.

What you may not realize, when Wayne and Eric are moderating emails, they
aren't working on Elecraft products and driving Elecraft forward. This
would give them more time to do that.

many 73, Mike va3mw

On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 9:42 AM, N2TK, Tony <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Nope, not interested in a new forum.
> I agree some topics stretch the interest quite a bit for an Elecraft
> subject. But many times I learn something. And If I have no interest or get
> bored with a subject I just use the Delete key.
>
> 73,
> N2TK, Tony
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
> Michael Walker
> Sent: Monday, May 1, 2017 8:06 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Equipment chat group
>
> Hi All
>
> I am thinking of starting an Elecraft email forum that would focus only on
> Elecraft equipment.
>
> While I like this list for the Elecraft discussions, about 50% of it is
> related to off topic items and they flood my inbox with hundreds of emails.
>
> How many of you would be interested?
>
> 73 all, Mike va3mw
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Jerry Moore

Re: FW: Elecraft Equipment chat group

I'd suggest taking this off list directly to the list mods.
While your opinions are important; the community in it's entirety is
governed by Elecraft. Complaining to the list only results in a flurry of
'me too' or 'not me' posts that further exacerbate the issue.
On the air we ignore people that disrupt communications or otherwise break
the rules.
I'd suggest we take the same action on the list and internet at large.
Experience being a good teacher; we know that there are people who derive
enjoyment from causing drama and getting folks spun up.
Sometimes you just have to get away from the keyboard and go outside.
Jer

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Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 9:54 AM
To: N2TK, Tony <[hidden email]>
Cc: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FW: Elecraft Equipment chat group

It is getting out of hand.

We just had about 50 emails on RACES and MARS. Even Eric told everyone to
shut it down as a moderator, yet everyone ignored him. It seems (and I
haven't measured) that we are 50/50 off topic to on topic.

For those that would prefer to stay try to Elecraft equipment discussions,
it looks like I will be starting another group. I'll let those interested
where it will be hosted by tomorrow.

For those that are not interested, that is fine. No pressure here, just
trying to solve a problem.

What you may not realize, when Wayne and Eric are moderating emails, they
aren't working on Elecraft products and driving Elecraft forward. This
would give them more time to do that.

many 73, Mike va3mw

On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 9:42 AM, N2TK, Tony <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Nope, not interested in a new forum.
> I agree some topics stretch the interest quite a bit for an Elecraft
> subject. But many times I learn something. And If I have no interest
> or get bored with a subject I just use the Delete key.
>
> 73,
> N2TK, Tony
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
> Michael Walker
> Sent: Monday, May 1, 2017 8:06 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Equipment chat group
>
> Hi All
>
> I am thinking of starting an Elecraft email forum that would focus
> only on Elecraft equipment.
>
> While I like this list for the Elecraft discussions, about 50% of it
> is related to off topic items and they flood my inbox with hundreds of

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Re: Elecraft Equipment chat group

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Not a chance. Frankly, as a K1 and K2 owner, all the *K-line* posts are
OT to me. But there hasn't been an OT topic on this reflector that I
didn't find informative. This is a very tech savvy and interesting
group, and I value their input. It takes a long time to build a viable
community of any kind. This one is mature and healthy.

I filter out everything with a specific K-line model number. When a new
product is announced (like the KPA1500) it isn't filtered so I can learn
something about it. I have never owned an amp in 60 years and chances
are excellent I never will, but the product is still interesting--I read
every post. At some point, I'll add it to my filter.

Why are filters so difficult to do that someone would think starting a
new group would be easier?

This OT argument goes on in every single group from time to time. It's
the ULTIMATE example of OT imaginable.

Eric KE6US

On 5/1/2017 5:05 AM, Michael Walker wrote:

Bill Steffey NY9H

Re: Elecraft Equipment chat group

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with over 20 reflector folders under RADIO which auto sort upon arrival,
count me out,,,,

bill

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