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Barry

Re: Elecraft Hats at Dayton?

I thought you would be GIVING them away in Dayton, not SELLING them :.(
Barry W2UP

Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT

Re: Elecraft Hats at Dayton?

Given the choice between a free hat, or free enhancements to my KX3
(firmware updates) I'll take the enhancements.

On 5/17/2013 11:43 AM, Barry wrote:

> I thought you would be GIVING them away in Dayton, not SELLING them :.(
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Bob-2

Re: Elecraft Hats at Dayton?

I'll take the hat since I do not have a KX3, YET.

Only an antique K2 & K3 owner. However I do have a friend who is at Dayton and
will try to score me a hat...

73,
Bob
K2TK ex KN2TKR (1956) & K2TKR

On 5/17/2013 2:56 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote:
> Given the choice between a free hat, or free enhancements to my KX3 (firmware
> updates) I'll take the enhancements.
>
> On 5/17/2013 11:43 AM, Barry wrote:
>> I thought you would be GIVING them away in Dayton, not SELLING them :.(
>> Barry W2UP
>>
>>

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Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT

Re: Elecraft Hats at Dayton?

I'm sure the K3 gets (free) firmware updates as well.

On 5/17/2013 12:39 PM, Bob wrote:

> I'll take the hat since I do not have a KX3, YET.
>
> Only an antique K2 & K3 owner. However I do have a friend who is at
> Dayton and will try to score me a hat...
>
> 73,
> Bob
> K2TK ex KN2TKR (1956) & K2TKR
>
>
> On 5/17/2013 2:56 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote:
>> Given the choice between a free hat, or free enhancements to my KX3
>> (firmware updates) I'll take the enhancements.
>>
>> On 5/17/2013 11:43 AM, Barry wrote:
>>> I thought you would be GIVING them away in Dayton, not SELLING them
>>> :.(
>>> Barry W2UP
>>>
>>>
>
>
>

k6dgw

Re: Elecraft Hats at Dayton?

In reply to this post by Bob-2

On 5/17/2013 12:39 PM, Bob wrote:
> I'll take the hat since I do not have a KX3, YET.
>
> Only an antique K2 & K3 owner. However I do have a friend who is at
> Dayton and will try to score me a hat...

Hmmm ... does "antique" modify "K2 & K3" or "owner?"

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2013 Cal QSO Party 5-6 Oct 2013
- www.cqp.org

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Bob-2

Re: Elecraft Hats at Dayton?

Hi Fred,

To the best of my knowledge both are applicable,.

73,
Bob
K2TK Ex KN2TKR (1956, to establish a time frame) & K2TKR

On 5/17/2013 5:38 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:

> On 5/17/2013 12:39 PM, Bob wrote:
>> I'll take the hat since I do not have a KX3, YET.
>>
>> Only an antique K2 & K3 owner. However I do have a friend who is at
>> Dayton and will try to score me a hat...
>
> Hmmm ... does "antique" modify "K2 & K3" or "owner?"
>
> 73,
>
> Fred K6DGW
> - Northern California Contest Club
> - CU in the 2013 Cal QSO Party 5-6 Oct 2013
> - www.cqp.org
>
>
>

N0AZZ

Re: Elecraft Hats at Dayton?

In reply to this post by Barry

Wayne could I pre-order 3 left over hats from Dayton when you get back? If
so I would even prepay for them.....NOW

73,
Fred/N0AZZ
K3 Ser #'s 6730/5299--KX3 # 2573--K2/100--KAT100
P3/SVGA--KPA500--KAT500--W2

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I thought you would be GIVING them away in Dayton, not SELLING them :.(
Barry W2UP

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Millerhill

Re: Elecraft Hats at Dayton?

I can't believe u guys are bugging Wayne for hats. Do u have any clue what is involved in preparing and managing a trade show? Give it a rest and wait until he gets back to the office.

Note to Wayne:
Extending your brand through promotional items makes good sense financially and from a marketing point of view. You should consider having a page on your site for hats, shirts, mugs etc.

GL at the show

Steve
W1SFR

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On May 18, 2013, at 3:17 AM, "Fred Smith" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Wayne could I pre-order 3 left over hats from Dayton when you get back? If
> so I would even prepay for them.....NOW
>
>
> 73,
> Fred/N0AZZ
> K3 Ser #'s 6730/5299--KX3 # 2573--K2/100--KAT100
> P3/SVGA--KPA500--KAT500--W2
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Barry
> Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 1:43 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hats at Dayton?
>
> I thought you would be GIVING them away in Dayton, not SELLING them :.(
> Barry W2UP
>
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N0AZZ

Re: Elecraft Hats at Dayton?

Didn't know I was "Bugging Him" as such wasn't looking for free anything
just wanted to buy a "Real Elecraft Hat" instead of the one's we have from
EU. My friends and I wear ours whenever we go out to any radio related
events, just proud to wear them and per mote the Elecraft line.

We are still surprised at how many hams ask what Elecraft is when they see
our hats, we all are more than happy to tell them all about the great Radios
from them! What a great topic to talk about and meet other hams at the same
time and I will tell you we have had many of them but Elecraft radios
afterwards. Many times they end up in one of our homes to have a go at
different rigs and misc pieces, between all us we have one of everything
Elecraft has ever made.

What else can I say just proud of their company and happy to tell others
about them.

73,
Fred/N0AZZ
K3 Ser #'s 6730/5299--KX3 # 2573--K2/100--KAT100
P3/SVGA--KPA500--KAT500--W2

-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Roberts [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 6:16 AM
To: Fred Smith
Cc: Wayne Burdick; <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hats at Dayton?

I can't believe u guys are bugging Wayne for hats. Do u have any clue what
is involved in preparing and managing a trade show? Give it a rest and wait
until he gets back to the office.

Note to Wayne:
Extending your brand through promotional items makes good sense financially
and from a marketing point of view. You should consider having a page on
your site for hats, shirts, mugs etc.

GL at the show

Steve
W1SFR

Sent from my iPad

On May 18, 2013, at 3:17 AM, "Fred Smith" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Wayne could I pre-order 3 left over hats from Dayton when you get
> back? If so I would even prepay for them.....NOW
>
>
> 73,
> Fred/N0AZZ
> K3 Ser #'s 6730/5299--KX3 # 2573--K2/100--KAT100
> P3/SVGA--KPA500--KAT500--W2
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Barry
> Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 1:43 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hats at Dayton?
>
> I thought you would be GIVING them away in Dayton, not SELLING them
> :.( Barry W2UP
>
>
>
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Gary Gregory-2

Re: Elecraft Hats at Dayton?

Fred,

Well stated mate. Likewise here in VK. I have a T-Shirt done in the US (two
of them) but sadly no cap.

I still got the silly black Yaesu cap but it doesn't seem right to me to
wear it...:-)

73 to all without an Elecraft Hat, or suit or necktie or ...:-)

Gary

On 19 May 2013 17:19, Fred Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Didn't know I was "Bugging Him" as such wasn't looking for free anything
> just wanted to buy a "Real Elecraft Hat" instead of the one's we have from
> EU. My friends and I wear ours whenever we go out to any radio related
> events, just proud to wear them and per mote the Elecraft line.
>
> We are still surprised at how many hams ask what Elecraft is when they see
> our hats, we all are more than happy to tell them all about the great
> Radios
> from them! What a great topic to talk about and meet other hams at the same
> time and I will tell you we have had many of them but Elecraft radios
> afterwards. Many times they end up in one of our homes to have a go at
> different rigs and misc pieces, between all us we have one of everything
> Elecraft has ever made.
>
> What else can I say just proud of their company and happy to tell others
> about them.
>
>
> 73,
> Fred/N0AZZ
> K3 Ser #'s 6730/5299--KX3 # 2573--K2/100--KAT100
> P3/SVGA--KPA500--KAT500--W2
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Roberts [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 6:16 AM
> To: Fred Smith
> Cc: Wayne Burdick; <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hats at Dayton?
>
> I can't believe u guys are bugging Wayne for hats. Do u have any clue what
> is involved in preparing and managing a trade show? Give it a rest and wait
> until he gets back to the office.
>
> Note to Wayne:
> Extending your brand through promotional items makes good sense financially
> and from a marketing point of view. You should consider having a page on
> your site for hats, shirts, mugs etc.
>
> GL at the show
>
> Steve
> W1SFR
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On May 18, 2013, at 3:17 AM, "Fred Smith" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Wayne could I pre-order 3 left over hats from Dayton when you get
> > back? If so I would even prepay for them.....NOW
> >
> >
> > 73,
> > Fred/N0AZZ
> > K3 Ser #'s 6730/5299--KX3 # 2573--K2/100--KAT100
> > P3/SVGA--KPA500--KAT500--W2
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [hidden email]
> > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Barry
> > Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 1:43 PM
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hats at Dayton?
> >
> > I thought you would be GIVING them away in Dayton, not SELLING them
> > :.( Barry W2UP
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > View this message in context:
> > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Elecraft-Hats-at-Dayton-tp7573660
> > p75737
> > 33.html
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Andy McMullin

Re: Elecraft Hats at Dayton?

In reply to this post by N0AZZ

I like Steve's idea. I couldn't make it to Dayton -- it's just under 4,000 miles as the crow flies but would involve far more than that if you include getting to and from international airports and the rest :-)

Bit of a journey to get a hat after all but I hope the show goes well.

If you do decide to sell promotional items -- don't forget us outside the USA!

--
Regards
Andy, G8TQH

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Roberts [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 6:16 AM
> To: Fred Smith
> Cc: Wayne Burdick; <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hats at Dayton?
>
> I can't believe u guys are bugging Wayne for hats. Do u have any clue what
> is involved in preparing and managing a trade show? Give it a rest and wait
> until he gets back to the office.
>
> Note to Wayne:
> Extending your brand through promotional items makes good sense financially
> and from a marketing point of view. You should consider having a page on
> your site for hats, shirts, mugs etc.
>
> GL at the show
>
> Steve
> W1SFR
>

KD8NNU

Re: Elecraft Hats at Dayton?

I did purchase a hat at Dayton yesterday.

Maybe we can convince Elecraft to work with one of those suppliers who do
hats and allow us order direct and then we could get our Call Sign added at
the time of purchase.

I know this can be done. Then Elecraft does not have to bother directly
with the hat guys.

If you take it to the full extreme we could maybe have hats and shirts and
look cool at field days, club events and ham shows. Not sure about tattoos
:-)

Elecraft would have to do something to make this happen as they are the
owners of the trademark.

~73
Don
KD8NNU
-.- -.. ---.. -. -. ..-
-----Original Message-----
From: Andy McMullin
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 4:14 AM
Cc: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hats at Dayton?

I like Steve's idea. I couldn't make it to Dayton -- it's just under 4,000
miles as the crow flies but would involve far more than that if you include
getting to and from international airports and the rest :-)

Bit of a journey to get a hat after all but I hope the show goes well.

If you do decide to sell promotional items -- don't forget us outside the
USA!

--
Regards
Andy, G8TQH

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Roberts [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 6:16 AM
> To: Fred Smith
> Cc: Wayne Burdick; <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hats at Dayton?
>
> I can't believe u guys are bugging Wayne for hats. Do u have any clue what
> is involved in preparing and managing a trade show? Give it a rest and
> wait
> until he gets back to the office.
>
> Note to Wayne:
> Extending your brand through promotional items makes good sense
> financially
> and from a marketing point of view. You should consider having a page on
> your site for hats, shirts, mugs etc.
>
> GL at the show
>
> Steve
> W1SFR
>

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Gary Gregory-2

Re: Elecraft Hats at Dayton?

Doesn't anyone read Eric's post's anymore?

On 19 May 2013 22:36, Goldtr8 (KD8NNU) <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I did purchase a hat at Dayton yesterday.
>
> Maybe we can convince Elecraft to work with one of those suppliers who do
> hats and allow us order direct and then we could get our Call Sign added at
> the time of purchase.
>
> I know this can be done. Then Elecraft does not have to bother directly
> with the hat guys.
>
> If you take it to the full extreme we could maybe have hats and shirts and
> look cool at field days, club events and ham shows. Not sure about tattoos
> :-)
>
> Elecraft would have to do something to make this happen as they are the
> owners of the trademark.
>
>
> ~73
> Don
> KD8NNU
> -.- -.. ---.. -. -. ..-
> -----Original Message----- From: Andy McMullin
> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 4:14 AM
> Cc: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hats at Dayton?
>
> I like Steve's idea. I couldn't make it to Dayton -- it's just under 4,000
> miles as the crow flies but would involve far more than that if you include
> getting to and from international airports and the rest :-)
>
> Bit of a journey to get a hat after all but I hope the show goes well.
>
> If you do decide to sell promotional items -- don't forget us outside the
> USA!
>
> --
> Regards
> Andy, G8TQH
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Stephen Roberts [mailto:[hidden email]]
>> Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 6:16 AM
>> To: Fred Smith
>> Cc: Wayne Burdick; <[hidden email]>
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hats at Dayton?
>>
>> I can't believe u guys are bugging Wayne for hats. Do u have any clue what
>> is involved in preparing and managing a trade show? Give it a rest and
>> wait
>> until he gets back to the office.
>>
>> Note to Wayne:
>> Extending your brand through promotional items makes good sense
>> financially
>> and from a marketing point of view. You should consider having a page on
>> your site for hats, shirts, mugs etc.
>>
>> GL at the show
>>
>> Steve
>> W1SFR
>>
>>
>
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K3/0 mini in Dayton

Saw the K3/0 mini on youtube. (video made this hamvention)

NICE!

73,
Arie
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Re: [Elecraft_K3] Re: Elecraft Hats at Dayton?

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Hi All,

I’ve never been particularly interested in paying for the “privilege” of advertising someone’s commercial product. It’s one thing to buy your shirt, hat, or whatever, with a club logo or name when it’s a non-commercial entity. However, there is something dissatisfying in functioning as a “billboard” and paying to do it. Yaesu, and some others, pass out stuff like this for free at Dayton. There’s a reason they do that. It gets their name out there—en masse—and they have obviously concluded that the expense is justified. Perhaps they view it more as “customer relations”, but I doubt it. There is “method to their madness”. Most of the time these items are purchased in bulk, and at very nominal cost.

Sports figures wear logo apparel but they don’t pay to do it—they get paid! And a bunch of those folks are people you’ve never heard of, or may never hear about! Not that we deserve to get paid, but I don’t think we should have to “contribute” to their advertising budget either. There is great value (apparently) in just getting your name out there, and you might be surprised how much some companies will pay just to influence a single potential customer.

What really gets me is when we are expected to pay “top dollar” for something with a company logo on it. Not only are they using us as a billboard, but they are also making a profit center for themselves out of the process. Crazy!

Yeah, I know, it is gratifying to many to have somebody’s logo on their hat, shirt, or whatever. If that really appeals to you then I have no argument against it. Besides, maybe you just need a hat or shirt, and this is a convenient way to get one. It just doesn’t appeal to me. Actually, every so often (but not very often) I see something like that which really looks “cool” and seems particularly attractive. But it’s usually not the logo, it’s the style or unique nature of it that is attractive.

I’m not much of a “fashion plate” when it comes to hats anyway. I usually wear a somewhat goofy looking terrycloth bucket hat, mainly because it is imminently more practical (I can wet it down if it’s hot—like on the golf course, and it shades my face better). I do have a rather cool looking baseball cap which has Begali’s logo on it. It’s good looking (I think), and unique. I greatly admire Begali products, so I’m happy to wear it and be a “billboard” for him. The clincher, though, is that Piero gave it to me, I didn’t have to buy it! I also greatly admire Elecraft products—I certainly have enough of them! However, I don’t feel inclined to pay to advertise for them. But, maybe they will come up with something that is so good looking I would be inclined to do so. That would be different!

Obviously there are many out there who won’t agree with what I have said. There seems to be something of a “frenzy” going on about having an Elecraft hat. Nevertheless, several have expressed disappointment that they weren’t free. So, I guess I might have at least a few folks who sympathize with my view.

Dave W7AQK

From: Goldtr8 (KD8NNU)
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 5:36 AM
To: elecraft yahoo groups
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Subject: [Elecraft_K3] Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hats at Dayton?

I did purchase a hat at Dayton yesterday.

Maybe we can convince Elecraft to work with one of those suppliers who do
hats and allow us order direct and then we could get our Call Sign added at
the time of purchase.

I know this can be done. Then Elecraft does not have to bother directly
with the hat guys.

If you take it to the full extreme we could maybe have hats and shirts and
look cool at field days, club events and ham shows. Not sure about tattoos
:-)

Elecraft would have to do something to make this happen as they are the
owners of the trademark.

~73
Don
KD8NNU

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Re: [Elecraft_K3] Re: Elecraft Hats at Dayton?

I would have bought a hat, but could not decide if I wanted elevated radials
on it.
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> Hi All,
>
> I’ve never been particularly interested in paying for the “privilege” of
> advertising someone’s commercial product. It’s one thing to buy your
> shirt, hat, or whatever, with a club logo or name when it’s a
> non-commercial entity. However, there is something dissatisfying in
> functioning as a “billboard” and paying to do it. Yaesu, and some others,
> pass out stuff like this for free at Dayton. There’s a reason they do
> that. It gets their name out there—en masse—and they have obviously
> concluded that the expense is justified. Perhaps they view it more as
> “customer relations”, but I doubt it. There is “method to their madness”.
> Most of the time these items are purchased in bulk, and at very nominal
> cost.
>
> Sports figures wear logo apparel but they don’t pay to do it—they get
> paid! And a bunch of those folks are people you’ve never heard of, or may
> never hear about! Not that we deserve to get paid, but I don’t think we
> should have to “contribute” to their advertising budget either. There is
> great value (apparently) in just getting your name out there, and you
> might be surprised how much some companies will pay just to influence a
> single potential customer.
>
> What really gets me is when we are expected to pay “top dollar” for
> something with a company logo on it. Not only are they using us as a
> billboard, but they are also making a profit center for themselves out of
> the process. Crazy!
>
> Yeah, I know, it is gratifying to many to have somebody’s logo on their
> hat, shirt, or whatever. If that really appeals to you then I have no
> argument against it. Besides, maybe you just need a hat or shirt, and
> this is a convenient way to get one. It just doesn’t appeal to me.
> Actually, every so often (but not very often) I see something like that
> which really looks “cool” and seems particularly attractive. But it’s
> usually not the logo, it’s the style or unique nature of it that is
> attractive.
>
> I’m not much of a “fashion plate” when it comes to hats anyway. I usually
> wear a somewhat goofy looking terrycloth bucket hat, mainly because it is
> imminently more practical (I can wet it down if it’s hot—like on the golf
> course, and it shades my face better). I do have a rather cool looking
> baseball cap which has Begali’s logo on it. It’s good looking (I think),
> and unique. I greatly admire Begali products, so I’m happy to wear it and
> be a “billboard” for him. The clincher, though, is that Piero gave it to
> me, I didn’t have to buy it! I also greatly admire Elecraft products—I
> certainly have enough of them! However, I don’t feel inclined to pay to
> advertise for them. But, maybe they will come up with something that is
> so good looking I would be inclined to do so. That would be different!
>
> Obviously there are many out there who won’t agree with what I have said.
> There seems to be something of a “frenzy” going on about having an
> Elecraft hat. Nevertheless, several have expressed disappointment that
> they weren’t free. So, I guess I might have at least a few folks who
> sympathize with my view.
>
> Dave W7AQK
>
>
>
> From: Goldtr8 (KD8NNU)
> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 5:36 AM
> To: elecraft yahoo groups
> Cc: [hidden email]
> Subject: [Elecraft_K3] Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hats at Dayton?
>
>
> I did purchase a hat at Dayton yesterday.
>
> Maybe we can convince Elecraft to work with one of those suppliers who do
> hats and allow us order direct and then we could get our Call Sign added
> at
> the time of purchase.
>
> I know this can be done. Then Elecraft does not have to bother directly
> with the hat guys.
>
> If you take it to the full extreme we could maybe have hats and shirts and
> look cool at field days, club events and ham shows. Not sure about tattoos
> :-)
>
> Elecraft would have to do something to make this happen as they are the
> owners of the trademark.
>
> ~73
> Don
> KD8NNU
>
>
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Vic Rosenthal

Re: [Elecraft_K3] Re: Elecraft Hats at Dayton?

But... you could have gotten a discount on the har!

On 5/19/2013 8:05 AM, W4SK wrote:
> I would have bought a hat, but could not decide if I wanted elevated radials on it.
> ________________________________
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Re: [Elecraft_K3] Re: Elecraft Hats at Dayton?

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I have no 'quarrel' in this, but if you post your question on [hidden email] you will find many qualified to answer your antenna question there.

Good luck and 73,

Tom - W4BQF

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On
> Behalf Of W4SK
> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 11:06 AM
> To: Dyarnes; elecraft yahoo groups
> Cc: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft_K3] Re: Elecraft Hats at Dayton?
>
> I would have bought a hat, but could not decide if I wanted elevated radials
> on it.
> ________________________________
> John T. Gwin
> [hidden email]
> [hidden email]
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dyarnes" <[hidden email]>
> To: "elecraft yahoo groups" <[hidden email]>
> Cc: <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 9:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft_K3] Re: Elecraft Hats at Dayton?
>
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I’ve never been particularly interested in paying for the “privilege” of
> > advertising someone’s commercial product. It’s one thing to buy your
> > shirt, hat, or whatever, with a club logo or name when it’s a
> > non-commercial entity. However, there is something dissatisfying in
> > functioning as a “billboard” and paying to do it. Yaesu, and some others,
> > pass out stuff like this for free at Dayton. There’s a reason they do
> > that. It gets their name out there—en masse—and they have obviously
> > concluded that the expense is justified. Perhaps they view it more as
> > “customer relations”, but I doubt it. There is “method to their madness”.
> > Most of the time these items are purchased in bulk, and at very nominal
> > cost.
> >
> > Sports figures wear logo apparel but they don’t pay to do it—they get
> > paid! And a bunch of those folks are people you’ve never heard of, or may
> > never hear about! Not that we deserve to get paid, but I don’t think we
> > should have to “contribute” to their advertising budget either. There is
> > great value (apparently) in just getting your name out there, and you
> > might be surprised how much some companies will pay just to influence a
> > single potential customer.
> >
> > What really gets me is when we are expected to pay “top dollar” for
> > something with a company logo on it. Not only are they using us as a
> > billboard, but they are also making a profit center for themselves out of
> > the process. Crazy!
> >
> > Yeah, I know, it is gratifying to many to have somebody’s logo on their
> > hat, shirt, or whatever. If that really appeals to you then I have no
> > argument against it. Besides, maybe you just need a hat or shirt, and
> > this is a convenient way to get one. It just doesn’t appeal to me.
> > Actually, every so often (but not very often) I see something like that
> > which really looks “cool” and seems particularly attractive. But it’s
> > usually not the logo, it’s the style or unique nature of it that is
> > attractive.
> >
> > I’m not much of a “fashion plate” when it comes to hats anyway. I usually
> > wear a somewhat goofy looking terrycloth bucket hat, mainly because it is
> > imminently more practical (I can wet it down if it’s hot—like on the golf
> > course, and it shades my face better). I do have a rather cool looking
> > baseball cap which has Begali’s logo on it. It’s good looking (I think),
> > and unique. I greatly admire Begali products, so I’m happy to wear it and
> > be a “billboard” for him. The clincher, though, is that Piero gave it to
> > me, I didn’t have to buy it! I also greatly admire Elecraft products—I
> > certainly have enough of them! However, I don’t feel inclined to pay to
> > advertise for them. But, maybe they will come up with something that is
> > so good looking I would be inclined to do so. That would be different!
> >
> > Obviously there are many out there who won’t agree with what I have said.
> > There seems to be something of a “frenzy” going on about having an
> > Elecraft hat. Nevertheless, several have expressed disappointment that
> > they weren’t free. So, I guess I might have at least a few folks who
> > sympathize with my view.
> >
> > Dave W7AQK
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Goldtr8 (KD8NNU)
> > Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 5:36 AM
> > To: elecraft yahoo groups
> > Cc: [hidden email]
> > Subject: [Elecraft_K3] Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hats at Dayton?
> >
> >
> > I did purchase a hat at Dayton yesterday.
> >
> > Maybe we can convince Elecraft to work with one of those suppliers who do
> > hats and allow us order direct and then we could get our Call Sign added
> > at
> > the time of purchase.
> >
> > I know this can be done. Then Elecraft does not have to bother directly
> > with the hat guys.
> >
> > If you take it to the full extreme we could maybe have hats and shirts and
> > look cool at field days, club events and ham shows. Not sure about tattoos
> > :-)
> >
> > Elecraft would have to do something to make this happen as they are the
> > owners of the trademark.
> >
> > ~73
> > Don
> > KD8NNU
> >
> >
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Re: [Elecraft_K3] Re: Elecraft Hats at Dayton?

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Read your post while drinking my morning cup of joe.
I laughed so hard coffee came out of my nose!

Frank - W6NEK

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>I would have bought a hat, but could not decide if I wanted elevated
>radials on it.

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Re: [Elecraft_K3] Re: Elecraft Hats at Dayton?

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So don't buy one...pretty simple and doesn't waste a lot of bandwidth proselytizing on the reflector. Greg-N4CC

From: Dyarnes [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 10:33 AM
To: elecraft yahoo groups
Cc: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft_K3] Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Hats at Dayton?

Hi All,

I’ve never been particularly interested in paying for the “privilege” of advertising someone’s commercial product. It’s one thing to buy your shirt, hat, or whatever, with a club logo or name when it’s a non-commercial entity. However, there is something dissatisfying in functioning as a “billboard” and paying to do it. Yaesu, and some others, pass out stuff like this for free at Dayton. There’s a reason they do that. It gets their name out there—en masse—and they have obviously concluded that the expense is justified. Perhaps they view it more as “customer relations”, but I doubt it. There is “method to their madness”. Most of the time these items are purchased in bulk, and at very nominal cost.

Sports figures wear logo apparel but they don’t pay to do it—they get paid! And a bunch of those folks are people you’ve never heard of, or may never hear about! Not that we deserve to get paid, but I don’t think we should have to “contribute” to their advertising budget either. There is great value (apparently) in just getting your name out there, and you might be surprised how much some companies will pay just to influence a single potential customer.

What really gets me is when we are expected to pay “top dollar” for something with a company logo on it. Not only are they using us as a billboard, but they are also making a profit center for themselves out of the process. Crazy!

Yeah, I know, it is gratifying to many to have somebody’s logo on their hat, shirt, or whatever. If that really appeals to you then I have no argument against it. Besides, maybe you just need a hat or shirt, and this is a convenient way to get one. It just doesn’t appeal to me. Actually, every so often (but not very often) I see something like that which really looks “cool” and seems particularly attractive. But it’s usually not the logo, it’s the style or unique nature of it that is attractive.

I’m not much of a “fashion plate” when it comes to hats anyway. I usually wear a somewhat goofy looking terrycloth bucket hat, mainly because it is imminently more practical (I can wet it down if it’s hot—like on the golf course, and it shades my face better). I do have a rather cool looking baseball cap which has Begali’s logo on it. It’s good looking (I think), and unique. I greatly admire Begali products, so I’m happy to wear it and be a “billboard” for him. The clincher, though, is that Piero gave it to me, I didn’t have to buy it! I also greatly admire Elecraft products—I certainly have enough of them! However, I don’t feel inclined to pay to advertise for them. But, maybe they will come up with something that is so good looking I would be inclined to do so. That would be different!

Obviously there are many out there who won’t agree with what I have said. There seems to be something of a “frenzy” going on about having an Elecraft hat. Nevertheless, several have expressed disappointment that they weren’t free. So, I guess I might have at least a few folks who sympathize with my view.

Dave W7AQK

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