Elecraft website now accessable through FIOS in NY

[Fred, KC2QFR]

Started working properly here on FIOS in Poughkeepsie NY during the past 30
min.

It looks like Rick, N1RM calling FIOS service did the trick.

73 de Fred, WY2E
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On Mon, 2016-01-04 at 11:11 -0500, Fred Lauricella wrote:

> Started working properly here on FIOS in Poughkeepsie NY during the past 30
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> It looks like Rick, N1RM calling FIOS service did the trick.
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> 73 de Fred, WY2E
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[WB4SON]

Not that it matters much, but it is still very much dead in Rhode Island.

It seems to come/go several times a day, or at least that has been my
experience with www.elecraft.com for the past few weeks.

Primary internet is Verizon FIOS.

Works fine on AT&T at the moment, but that has been up/down too.

73, Bob, WB4SON
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[Barry K3NDM]

This is interesting. The folks on the Tentec reflector have been
complaining about accessing  the TT site using FIOS. I use Comcast and
haven't seen a problem. It may be some changes that Verizon has
instituted. I would see what it's like by the end of today as this
seemed like a weekend problem.

73,
Barry
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>Not that it matters much, but it is still very much dead in Rhode
>Island.
>
>It seems to come/go several times a day, or at least that has been my
>experience with www.elecraft.com for the past few weeks.
>
>Primary internet is Verizon FIOS.
>
>Works fine on AT&T at the moment, but that has been up/down too.
>
>73, Bob, WB4SON
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[ab2tc]

Hi,

Still dead here in Syracuse, NY. I did an "ipconfig /flushdns" command as suggested by Eric Swartz in another thread. Symptoms are the same as before, the browser (IE11) spins forever with the "Waiting for elecraft.com" message. The FTP protocol works fine as before as do ping and traceroute. The curl command also produces the same results as before.

AB2TC - Knut

Fred, KC2QFR wrote

Started working properly here on FIOS in Poughkeepsie NY during the past 30
min.

It looks like Rick, N1RM calling FIOS service did the trick.

73 de Fred, WY2E
<snip>

[N2TK]

Same here near Poughkeepsie, NY
N2TK, Tony

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft website now accessable through FIOS in NY

Hi,

Still dead here in Syracuse, NY. I did an "ipconfig /flushdns" command as
suggested by Eric Swartz in another thread. Symptoms are the same as before,
the browser (IE11) spins forever with the "Waiting for elecraft.com"
message. The FTP protocol works fine as before as do ping and traceroute.
The curl command also produces the same results as before.

AB2TC - Knut


Fred, KC2QFR wrote
> Started working properly here on FIOS in Poughkeepsie NY during the
> past
> 30
> min.
>
> It looks like Rick, N1RM calling FIOS service did the trick.
>
> 73 de Fred, WY2E
> <snip>





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[Troy, W6HV]

Same here in Southern California. I reported it again to Verizon. No
response yet.
Troy, W6HV

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft website now accessable through FIOS in NY

Hi,

Still dead here in Syracuse, NY. I did an "ipconfig /flushdns" command as
suggested by Eric Swartz in another thread. Symptoms are the same as before,
the browser (IE11) spins forever with the "Waiting for elecraft.com"
message. The FTP protocol works fine as before as do ping and traceroute.
The curl command also produces the same results as before.

AB2TC - Knut


Fred, KC2QFR wrote
> Started working properly here on FIOS in Poughkeepsie NY during the past
> 30
> min.
>
> It looks like Rick, N1RM calling FIOS service did the trick.
>
> 73 de Fred, WY2E
> <snip>





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DNS sometimes takes a while to propagate downstream.  The DNS server
you're using is probably (er, may be) different from others in NY.

73,
matt W6NIA

On 1/4/2016 12:11 PM, ab2tc wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Still dead here in Syracuse, NY. I did an "ipconfig /flushdns" command as
> suggested by Eric Swartz in another thread. Symptoms are the same as before,
> the browser (IE11) spins forever with the "Waiting for elecraft.com"
> message. The FTP protocol works fine as before as do ping and traceroute.
> The curl command also produces the same results as before.
>
> AB2TC - Knut
>
>
> Fred, KC2QFR wrote
>> Started working properly here on FIOS in Poughkeepsie NY during the past
>> 30
>> min.
>>
>> It looks like Rick, N1RM calling FIOS service did the trick.
>>
>> 73 de Fred, WY2E
>> <snip>
>
>
>
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Yes, it can take up to 48 hours to propagate.


Mark, WB9CIF

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DNS sometimes takes a while to propagate downstream.  The DNS server you're
using is probably (er, may be) different from others in NY.

73,
matt W6NIA

On 1/4/2016 12:11 PM, ab2tc wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Still dead here in Syracuse, NY. I did an "ipconfig /flushdns" command
> as suggested by Eric Swartz in another thread. Symptoms are the same
> as before, the browser (IE11) spins forever with the "Waiting for
elecraft.com"

> message. The FTP protocol works fine as before as do ping and traceroute.
> The curl command also produces the same results as before.
>
> AB2TC - Knut
>
>
> Fred, KC2QFR wrote
>> Started working properly here on FIOS in Poughkeepsie NY during the
>> past
>> 30
>> min.
>>
>> It looks like Rick, N1RM calling FIOS service did the trick.
>>
>> 73 de Fred, WY2E
>> <snip>
>
>
>
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Yes, but who ever said it was a DNS issue?

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> Yes, it can take up to 48 hours to propagate.
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> Mark, WB9CIF
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>
> DNS sometimes takes a while to propagate downstream.  The DNS server you're
> using is probably (er, may be) different from others in NY.
>
> 73,
> matt W6NIA
>
> On 1/4/2016 12:11 PM, ab2tc wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Still dead here in Syracuse, NY. I did an "ipconfig /flushdns" command
> > as suggested by Eric Swartz in another thread. Symptoms are the same
> > as before, the browser (IE11) spins forever with the "Waiting for
> elecraft.com"
> > message. The FTP protocol works fine as before as do ping and traceroute.
> > The curl command also produces the same results as before.
> >
> > AB2TC - Knut
> >
> >
> > Fred, KC2QFR wrote
> >> Started working properly here on FIOS in Poughkeepsie NY during the
> >> past
> >> 30
> >> min.
> >>
> >> It looks like Rick, N1RM calling FIOS service did the trick.
> >>
> >> 73 de Fred, WY2E
> >> <snip>
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Eric.
73, Mike NF4L


> On Jan 4, 2016, at 4:47 PM, Barry N1EU <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> Yes, but who ever said it was a DNS issue?
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It appears its not a DNS problem, but is is specific to Verizon and how it
transfers web page data from our web site.

We've been able to reproduce it through remote access to several of our
customer's (who use verizon) PCs. It appears to be related to page size and
possible proxy MTU settings at Verizon.


Brandon here at HQ created created a test page. (Its a small blank page.)

http://www.elecraft.com/blank.html

This page will help test MTU incompatible settings between network providers.
The file size of the blank page is small enough to pass most MTU settings in one
single packet.
We suspect the Verizon FIOS users will be able to load the blank page, but not
regular www.elecraft.com pages.

We suggest users load the blank page, and then try to load our www.elecraft.com
homepage.
They should send the results to Verizon for further inspection of their internal
network.

As far as we can tell, the web server is working just fine.  All other ISPs do
not appear to have the loading issue.
This appears to be Verizon FIOS and DSL specific as the regular Elecraft web
page loads OK through Verizon 4G here.

73,

Eric
/elecraft.com/

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> Eric.
> 73, Mike NF4L
>
>
>> On Jan 4, 2016, at 4:47 PM, Barry N1EU <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>> Yes, but who ever said it was a DNS issue?
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Hi Eric,

Brandon's test (blank) page loads with no problem. elecraft.com http page does not. Verizon should be aware of the problem by now and hopefully working on it.

AB2TC - Knut

Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote

It appears its not a DNS problem, but is is specific to Verizon and how it
transfers web page data from our web site.

We've been able to reproduce it through remote access to several of our
customer's (who use verizon) PCs. It appears to be related to page size and
possible proxy MTU settings at Verizon.


Brandon here at HQ created created a test page. (Its a small blank page.)

http://www.elecraft.com/blank.html

This page will help test MTU incompatible settings between network providers.
The file size of the blank page is small enough to pass most MTU settings in one
single packet.
We suspect the Verizon FIOS users will be able to load the blank page, but not
regular www.elecraft.com pages.

We suggest users load the blank page, and then try to load our www.elecraft.com
homepage.
They should send the results to Verizon for further inspection of their internal
network.

As far as we can tell, the web server is working just fine.  All other ISPs do
not appear to have the loading issue.
This appears to be Verizon FIOS and DSL specific as the regular Elecraft web
page loads OK through Verizon 4G here.

73,

Eric
/elecraft.com/

On 1/4/2016 2:03 PM, Mike Reublin NF4L wrote:
> Eric.
> 73, Mike NF4L
>
>
>> On Jan 4, 2016, at 4:47 PM, Barry N1EU <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, but who ever said it was a DNS issue?
<snip>

[ab2tc]

Hi again Eric,

With that said, if the problem is really your web site pushing the MTU limits imposed by Verizon, you may be back on line with us (the FIOS users having problems) faster by working with your web site host to reduce this. Verizon is not known to be a fast working machine. But we can still have some patience.

AB2TC - Knut

<quote author="ab2tc">
Hi Eric,

Brandon's test (blank) page loads with no problem. elecraft.com http page does not. Verizon should be aware of the problem by now and hopefully working on it.

AB2TC - Knut

Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote

It appears its not a DNS problem, but is is specific to Verizon and how it
transfers web page data from our web site.

We've been able to reproduce it through remote access to several of our
customer's (who use verizon) PCs. It appears to be related to page size and
possible proxy MTU settings at Verizon.
<snip>

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ]

Hi Knut,

Its not anything we're doing here that is non-standard, and nothing has changed
in that regard in the last week or two.

It appears Verizon made some sort of change to their system and it is causing
these problems. Fortunately, it appears that the original poster and several
others who reported problems are now getting the Elecraft web site OK. If
Verizon is addressing this, it may take 24-28 hours to ripple through their system

73,

Eric
/elecraft.com/

On 1/4/2016 3:47 PM, ab2tc wrote:

> Hi again Eric,
>
> With that said, if the problem is really your web site pushing the MTU
> limits imposed by Verizon, you may be back on line with us (the FIOS users
> having problems) faster by working with your web site host to reduce this.
> Verizon is not known to be a fast working machine. But we can still have
> some patience.
>
> AB2TC - Knut
>
>
> Hi Eric,
>
> Brandon's test (blank) page loads with no problem. elecraft.com http page
> does not. Verizon should be aware of the problem by now and hopefully
> working on it.
>
> AB2TC - Knut
>
>
> Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote
>> It appears its not a DNS problem, but is is specific to Verizon and how it
>> transfers web page data from our web site.
>>
>> We've been able to reproduce it through remote access to several of our
>> customer's (who use verizon) PCs. It appears to be related to page size
>> and
>> possible proxy MTU settings at Verizon.
>> <snip>
>
>
>
>
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> I wonder what EXACTLY was the issue?

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