Elmer

[Keith Bainbridge-2]

Seems to me the word Elmer is a stateside only thing, we never used it
in the UK or here in Australia.
To me it conjures up images of Bugs Bunny and Elmer Fudd !
I prefer to tell folks I'm a radio hobbyist, experimenting in technology
and communications. That usually leaves then gobsmacked !
73
Keith

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[Thom LaCosta]

On Thu, 28 Jun 2007, Keith Bainbridge wrote:

> Seems to me the word Elmer is a stateside only thing, we never used it in the
> UK or here in Australia.
> communications. That usually leaves then gobsmacked !

Seems to me that gobsmacked is not a term that is heavily used here in the
colonies....goes it have anything to do with tea leaves, or conscripted sailors?

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[Ken Kopp]

Some years ago a grateful ham wrote a "warm fuzzy" magazine article
in one of the US Amateur radio magazines (QST?) thanking the man
who had been his mentor into the hobby.  The man's name was Elmer.

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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[W2AGN-2]

Ken Kopp wrote:
> Some years ago a grateful ham wrote a "warm fuzzy" magazine article in
> one of the US Amateur radio magazines (QST?) thanking the man who had
> been his mentor into the hobby.  The man's name was Elmer.
>
> 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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>

I guess it's a good thing his name wasn't Murgatroyd or Lewellyn.

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[Ron D'Eau Claire-2]

Yep. It's a very recent term as Ham-speak goes, originating in QST in 1971
according to this source:

http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/club/mentor/


Ron AC7AC

-----Original Message-----
Some years ago a grateful ham wrote a "warm fuzzy" magazine article
in one of the US Amateur radio magazines (QST?) thanking the man
who had been his mentor into the hobby.  The man's name was Elmer.

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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[Julian, G4ILO]

On 6/28/07, Thom LaCosta <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Seems to me that gobsmacked is not a term that is heavily used here in the
> colonies....goes it have anything to do with tea leaves, or conscripted sailors?

Nope. It means you're left feeling astonished like you've just been
smacked in the gob (translation: punched in the mouth.)

After an Aussie has downed a few tinnies (had a few beers) he often
feels like smacking people in the gob, allegedly. :)

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[Mike Morrow-3]

Ron wrote:

>Yep. It's a very recent term as Ham-speak goes, originating in QST in 1971

Heck, being 1971-era, it's surprising that guy's name wasn't "Moon Unit" or "Peace Head" or "Gossamer Lollipop" or some such thing.

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[N2EY]

In a message dated 6/28/07 11:27:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[hidden email] writes:


> It's a very recent term as Ham-speak goes, originating in QST in 1971
> according to this source:
>
> http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/club/mentor/
>

I remember when that article came out.....I wasn't a new ham then...

I don't know if it was the first use of "Elmer" meaning "amateur radio
mentor" in print. But it's the first one I know of. And I know that it became much
more common to see in print after that.

What I think is most significant is that almost every ham knew the concept
already - some more-experienced amateur who made a point of helping and
encouraging others.

I still miss W9BRD's column. It was one of the best examples of stealth
journalism I ever read. While it was allegedly a DX column, and had lots of DX
info, his commentary wandered into many other areas. The Jeeves cartoons,
Grommethead Schultz, the DXHPDS limericks and their unusual character names ("Noah Q.
Essels" "Harry Uppensign" "Lotta Chassis") were just the obvious things. His
writings went off on interesting tangents, such as the trend towards miniature
rigs, (Madame Mu, the shack Siamese, did not approve), antenna restrictions,
pop culture references and much more.  

One didn't have to be a DXer to read and enjoy "How's DX" in those days.
Which introduced many a non-DXer ham, such as myself, to DXing, and built a
community of sorts.

Kinda like many OT postings today....

73 de Jim "shall we order an anchovy pizza for dinner tonight, Jeeves?" N2EY



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[Sandy W5TVW]

Is W9BRD a silent key now?  I QSOed him a couple of years ago several times
on 30 meters.  Nice fellow.

I 'wonder" if "Elmer" might have been derived from the author Elmer E.
Bucher who worked for RCA and wrote several books during the early 20's in
the spark era?

73,
Sandy W5TVW
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] "Elmer" background info

> In a message dated 6/28/07 11:27:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> [hidden email] writes:
>
>
>> It's a very recent term as Ham-speak goes, originating in QST in 1971
>> according to this source:
>>
>> http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/club/mentor/
>>
>
> I remember when that article came out.....I wasn't a new ham then...
>
> I don't know if it was the first use of "Elmer" meaning "amateur radio
> mentor" in print. But it's the first one I know of. And I know that it
> became much
> more common to see in print after that.
>
> What I think is most significant is that almost every ham knew the concept
> already - some more-experienced amateur who made a point of helping and
> encouraging others.
>
> I still miss W9BRD's column. It was one of the best examples of stealth
> journalism I ever read. While it was allegedly a DX column, and had lots
> of DX
> info, his commentary wandered into many other areas. The Jeeves cartoons,
> Grommethead Schultz, the DXHPDS limericks and their unusual character
> names ("Noah Q.
> Essels" "Harry Uppensign" "Lotta Chassis") were just the obvious things.
> His
> writings went off on interesting tangents, such as the trend towards
> miniature
> rigs, (Madame Mu, the shack Siamese, did not approve), antenna
> restrictions,
> pop culture references and much more.
>
> One didn't have to be a DXer to read and enjoy "How's DX" in those days.
> Which introduced many a non-DXer ham, such as myself, to DXing, and built
> a
> community of sorts.
>
> Kinda like many OT postings today....
>
> 73 de Jim "shall we order an anchovy pizza for dinner tonight, Jeeves?"
> N2EY
>
>
>
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[Ken Kopp]

Sandy,

I'm reasonably certain the use of "Elmer" started due to
the 1971 QST article.

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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[AJSOENKE]

The term may have been 'officialized' by the  article, but I remember K6MJX
offering to be my 'Elmer' when I was 14 years old  in 1958. I asked him then
where the term came from and he said he didn't know -  it was like Ham which had
fuzzy origins. The term was in usage here and there  well before the 70's

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[Phil Kane-2]

On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 22:55:38 EDT, [hidden email] wrote:

>The term may have been 'officialized' by the  article, but I
>remember K6MJX offering to be my 'Elmer' when I was 14 years old
>in 1958. I asked him then where the term came from and he said he
>didn't know -  it was like Ham which had fuzzy origins. The term
>was in usage here and there  well before the 70's

  I first discovered ham radio in 1951 in my high school radio
  club (W2CLE, allegedly the first HS radio club licensed on the
  US) and the term was not in use there at the time.

  Anyhow, my "Elmer"s were named Gene and Jack !  We were all
  the same general age (14).

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