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rcbenedict1545

FLDIGI with K3s

It appears FLDIGI MAC uses USB for RTTY not the standard LSB. Use data A for RTTY. If AFSK is used FlDIGI needs to be in REV mode.
If FLDIGI is not decoding correctly or no one answers calls, check the mode.
I don’t know if this applies to PC FLDIGI.
RAY
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Bob McGraw - K4TAX

Re: FLDIGI with K3s

FLDIGI working under Windows 10 has no issues using the correct mode for AFSK or PSK.

In FLDIGI you should be able to select PKTUSB for PSK mode and PKTLSB for AFSK.

Bob, K4TAX

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> On Apr 2, 2019, at 3:47 PM, Gmail <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> It appears FLDIGI MAC uses USB for RTTY not the standard LSB. Use data A for RTTY. If AFSK is used FlDIGI needs to be in REV mode.
> If FLDIGI is not decoding correctly or no one answers calls, check the mode.
> I don’t know if this applies to PC FLDIGI.
> RAY
> W8LYJ
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rcbenedict1545

Re: FLDIGI with K3s

I recommend reading the FLDIGI manual. It states that USB is used for digital modes, including RTTY. The K3 uses USB for Data A and LSB for Data AFSK.
In my first contest I was having problems getting reliable decoding and not many responses to my calls. I asked a friend who is an PVRC RTTY expert for help. He monitored my transmission and determined my signal was reversed. He said some operators would see that and change mode to answer me. Enabling Rv (reverse) on the lower FLDIGI control panel solved problem. However my logging software sends a mode command to radio when I select a spot and change frequency and it turns off Rv. A better solution is Data A mode which uses USB.
There may be a way to change the FLDIGI RTTY default however I have not found it in the menus. Has anyone found it?
Ray
W8LYJ

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> On Apr 2, 2019, at 17:18, Bob McGraw K4TAX <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> FLDIGI working under Windows 10 has no issues using the correct mode for AFSK or PSK.
>
> In FLDIGI you should be able to select PKTUSB for PSK mode and PKTLSB for AFSK.
>
>
>
> Bob, K4TAX
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Apr 2, 2019, at 3:47 PM, Gmail <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> It appears FLDIGI MAC uses USB for RTTY not the standard LSB. Use data A for RTTY. If AFSK is used FlDIGI needs to be in REV mode.
>> If FLDIGI is not decoding correctly or no one answers calls, check the mode.
>> I don’t know if this applies to PC FLDIGI.
>> RAY
>> W8LYJ
>> Sent from my iPad
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Bill Frantz

Re: FLDIGI with K3s

Does using Reverse on the K3 make it easier to use the logging software spots?

73 Bill AE6JV

On 4/2/19 at 4:11 PM, [hidden email] (Gmail) wrote:

> I recommend reading the FLDIGI manual. It states that USB is used for
> digital modes, including RTTY. The K3 uses USB for Data A and LSB for Data
> AFSK.
> In my first contest I was having problems getting reliable decoding and not
> many responses to my calls. I asked a friend who is an PVRC RTTY expert for
> help. He monitored my transmission and determined my signal was reversed. He
> said some operators would see that and change mode to answer me. Enabling Rv
> (reverse) on the lower FLDIGI control panel solved problem. However my
> logging software sends a mode command to radio when I select a spot and
> change frequency and it turns off Rv. A better solution is Data A mode which
> uses USB.
> There may be a way to change the FLDIGI RTTY default however I have not
> found it in the menus. Has anyone found it?
> Ray
> W8LYJ

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wayne burdick

Re: FLDIGI with K3s

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According to information available when we added RTTY to the K3, the standard was LSB. So AFSK-A and FSK-D both use LSB. DATA-A and PSK-D both use USB.

This is not left to your imagination during operation, because "LSB" or "USB" is shown along with "DATA" in the mode icon area. (This applies to the K3, K3S, KX3, and KX2.)

You can use DATA-REVERSE to flip the sideband. On an K3, K3S, or KX3, just hold the ALT switch, and you'll see "REV" appear above "DATA." On a KX2 use the ALT MD menu entry.

In FSK-D mode on a K3/K3S you can also reverse the transmit logic polarity; see CONFIG:FSK POL. This would be used with MMTTY (etc.) when driving the FSK hardware input line, as opposed to internal FSK-D operation which uses the keyer paddle or an attached ASCII terminal, e.g. K3 Utility's terminal function.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

> On Apr 2, 2019, at 5:16 PM, Bill Frantz <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Does using Reverse on the K3 make it easier to use the logging software spots?
>
> 73 Bill AE6JV
>
> On 4/2/19 at 4:11 PM, [hidden email] (Gmail) wrote:
>
>> I recommend reading the FLDIGI manual. It states that USB is used for
>> digital modes, including RTTY. The K3 uses USB for Data A and LSB for Data
>> AFSK.
>> In my first contest I was having problems getting reliable decoding and not
>> many responses to my calls. I asked a friend who is an PVRC RTTY expert for
>> help. He monitored my transmission and determined my signal was reversed. He
>> said some operators would see that and change mode to answer me. Enabling Rv
>> (reverse) on the lower FLDIGI control panel solved problem. However my
>> logging software sends a mode command to radio when I select a spot and
>> change frequency and it turns off Rv. A better solution is Data A mode which
>> uses USB.
>> There may be a way to change the FLDIGI RTTY default however I have not
>> found it in the menus. Has anyone found it?
>> Ray
>> W8LYJ
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rcbenedict1545

Re: FLDIGI with K3s

In reply to this post by Bill Frantz

I was able to turn off logging software mode send so I can use Data A or I could use AFSK with rev. Also it’s possible to change K3 to USB AFSK. it’s not a K3 problem but I thought others might have the issue. Took me a few hours to sort out It all out.
I might have more info tomorrow. I need to play with log software rig control config.
Ray

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> On Apr 2, 2019, at 20:16, Bill Frantz <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Does using Reverse on the K3 make it easier to use the logging software spots?
>
> 73 Bill AE6JV
>
>> On 4/2/19 at 4:11 PM, [hidden email] (Gmail) wrote:
>>
>> I recommend reading the FLDIGI manual. It states that USB is used for
>> digital modes, including RTTY. The K3 uses USB for Data A and LSB for Data
>> AFSK.
>> In my first contest I was having problems getting reliable decoding and not
>> many responses to my calls. I asked a friend who is an PVRC RTTY expert for
>> help. He monitored my transmission and determined my signal was reversed. He
>> said some operators would see that and change mode to answer me. Enabling Rv
>> (reverse) on the lower FLDIGI control panel solved problem. However my
>> logging software sends a mode command to radio when I select a spot and
>> change frequency and it turns off Rv. A better solution is Data A mode which
>> uses USB.
>> There may be a way to change the FLDIGI RTTY default however I have not
>> found it in the menus. Has anyone found it?
>> Ray
>> W8LYJ
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Bill Frantz | If you want total security, go to prison. There you're
> 408-356-8506 | fed, clothed, given medical care and so on. The only
> www.pwpconsult.com | thing lacking is freedom. - Dwight D. Eisenhower
>

Joe Subich, W4TV-4

Re: FLDIGI with K3s

In reply to this post by rcbenedict1545

Fldigi for the PC operates correctly with the K3 and AFSK_A as long
as radio control (CAT) is connected. The software/CAT interface
driver properly understands the sideband sense of the connected rig.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 2019-04-02 4:47 PM, Gmail wrote:
> It appears FLDIGI MAC uses USB for RTTY not the standard LSB. Use data A for RTTY. If AFSK is used FlDIGI needs to be in REV mode.
> If FLDIGI is not decoding correctly or no one answers calls, check the mode.
> I don’t know if this applies to PC FLDIGI.
> RAY
> W8LYJ
> Sent from my iPad

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Christopher Hoover

Re: FLDIGI with K3s

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Use PKTUSB with fldigi digital modes. This is covered in the fldigi docs.

73 de AI6KG

On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 1:47 PM Gmail <[hidden email]> wrote:

> It appears FLDIGI MAC uses USB for RTTY not the standard LSB. Use data A
> for RTTY. If AFSK is used FlDIGI needs to be in REV mode.
> If FLDIGI is not decoding correctly or no one answers calls, check the
> mode.
> I don’t know if this applies to PC FLDIGI.
> RAY
> W8LYJ
> Sent from my iPad
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rcbenedict1545

Re: FLDIGI with K3s

That option is not available or I would. The drop down box is blank. The instructions I read say use RTTY and have the radio in LSB.
Ray

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> On Apr 5, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Christopher Hoover <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Use PKTUSB with fldigi digital modes. This is covered in the fldigi docs.
>
> 73 de AI6KG
>
>> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 1:47 PM Gmail <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> It appears FLDIGI MAC uses USB for RTTY not the standard LSB. Use data A for RTTY. If AFSK is used FlDIGI needs to be in REV mode.
>> If FLDIGI is not decoding correctly or no one answers calls, check the mode.
>> I don’t know if this applies to PC FLDIGI.
>> RAY
>> W8LYJ
>> Sent from my iPad
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Don Wilhelm

Re: FLDIGI with K3s

Ray and all,

The K3/K3S/KX3/KX2 has a DATA submode AFSK A which is LSB (unless you
change it) and also has special filters for RTTY - you have to set the
mark frequency in the menu to match your software (or the other way
around).
Using the DATA submodes rather than SSB automatically sets the
compression to zero and the TX and RX EQ to flat. That allows you to
switch to DATA modes without disturbing whatever compression and EQ
settings you have set for SSB.

Read the Elecraft manuals for more information.

So if you set the K3 to AFSK A, you are placing the K3 in USB mode and
complying with the FLDIGI instructions that you read.

FLDIGI instructions do not consider the features available on the K3
because they are written for the lowest common denominator and apply to
transceivers that do not have specific DATA modes.

As a side note, for non-RTTY soundcard data modes, use K3 DATA submode
DATA A rather than SSB USB.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 4/5/2019 4:31 PM, Raymond wrote:

> That option is not available or I would. The drop down box is blank. The instructions I read say use RTTY and have the radio in LSB.
> Ray
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Apr 5, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Christopher Hoover <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Use PKTUSB with fldigi digital modes. This is covered in the fldigi docs.
>>
>> 73 de AI6KG

rcbenedict1545

Re: FLDIGI with K3s

When FLDIGI rig control is “XML-RPC” the mode select drop down box under frequency is disabled. In that rig control mode Data A which is USB needs to be use. I did not realize until I just checked FLDIGI that it is only disabled in that rig control mode.
Ray

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> On Apr 5, 2019, at 16:59, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Ray and all,
>
> The K3/K3S/KX3/KX2 has a DATA submode AFSK A which is LSB (unless you change it) and also has special filters for RTTY - you have to set the mark frequency in the menu to match your software (or the other way around).
> Using the DATA submodes rather than SSB automatically sets the compression to zero and the TX and RX EQ to flat. That allows you to switch to DATA modes without disturbing whatever compression and EQ settings you have set for SSB.
>
> Read the Elecraft manuals for more information.
>
> So if you set the K3 to AFSK A, you are placing the K3 in USB mode and complying with the FLDIGI instructions that you read.
>
> FLDIGI instructions do not consider the features available on the K3 because they are written for the lowest common denominator and apply to transceivers that do not have specific DATA modes.
>
> As a side note, for non-RTTY soundcard data modes, use K3 DATA submode DATA A rather than SSB USB.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
>> On 4/5/2019 4:31 PM, Raymond wrote:
>> That option is not available or I would. The drop down box is blank. The instructions I read say use RTTY and have the radio in LSB.
>> Ray
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> On Apr 5, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Christopher Hoover <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Use PKTUSB with fldigi digital modes. This is covered in the fldigi docs.
>>>
>>> 73 de AI6KG