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Arlen Fletcher

FS: K3/100, P3, KPA500, more...

I’m selling my K3/100 (S/N 81xx), P3 (S/N 31xx) and KPA500 (S/N 6xx) as well as some other misc equipment. Continental U.S. buyers only please! All gear is in proper working order and is from a smoke-free and animal-free home. The KPA500 has had one previous owner, and the AL-80B was an “open Box” purchase from DX Engineering. All the other equipment was purchased new and is being sold by the original owner. Photos are on my QRZ page (AA7F). I’ll pay for standard surface shipping, you pay the difference if you want expedited shipping. Payment accepted via cashier’s check only.

Equipment details follow:

Elecraft K3/100 - purchased new in March 2014 - Excellent condition, no scratches, no dents, $2800

Includes:

• KPA3 100W PA Module
• KAT3 ATU Module
• KXV3A RX Ant, IF Out, & Xverter Interface
• KFL3A-2.7k 2700Hz, 5-pole filter
• KFL3A-400 400Hz, 8-pole filter
• KRX3 2nd Rcvr
• KFL3A-2.7k 2700Hz 5-pole filter for KRX3
• KFL3A-400 8-pole filter for KRX3
• Manuals included

Elecraft P3 - purchased new in March 2014 - Excellent condition, small scratch on the top surface of the front panel, no dents, $500

Elecraft KPA500 - purchased used within the last 2 months (minor cosmetic scratches on rear of top panel from previous owner) $1700

Non-Elecraft gear for sale:

Ameritron AL80B amplifier - “Open Box” purchase from DX Engineering in 2014. The W8JI TOF module (http://www.w8ji.com/TOF1.htm) is installed in this amp. $850

Palstar HF-Auto antenna tuner - (S/N 231xx) purchased new from DX Engineering in Aug 2014 - Excellent condition, no scratches, no dents, $1200

LP100A Digital Vector Wattmeter (S/N 040xx) w/ standard coupler - purchased new from Telepost in Sept 2014, Excellent condition, no scratches, no dents, $350

N3ZN model ZN5 Iambic Key, brass version, like new! (S/N 129) $275

73,

Arlen - AA7F
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Vic Rosenthal

Re: FS: K3/100, P3, KPA500, more...

I'm not being critical of Arlen (or anyone), but why do so many people
selling equipment not want to ship it overseas? If the buyer pays the
actual shipping cost, then the only difference is the single customs
declaration the seller has to fill out, which takes about 2 minutes.
Payment can be made by Paypal, and shipment can be by USPS, or to most
countries by UPS or Fedex.

As someone who sent huge quantities of stuff from the USA to my kids
here, I just don't get it.

73,
Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO
Rehovot, Israel
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/

On 20 Aug 2015 18:33, Arlen Fletcher wrote:
> I’m selling my K3/100 (S/N 81xx), P3 (S/N 31xx) and KPA500 (S/N 6xx)
> as well as some other misc equipment. Continental U.S. buyers only
> please!
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James Bennett

Re: FS: K3/100, P3, KPA500, more...

Vic, mostly it depends on where the item(s) are being sent to. I’ve been selling on eBay for over 12 years, and I DO ship overseas. However, when it comes to something really expensive, I opt not to do that for certain countries. There are parts of the world that have a very, very bad reputation for corruption in the postal system. Stuff is pilfered from the mail and delivery agents. As a seller, you are told by eBay / PayPal that you are protected against such things. In truth, it takes a LOT of effort to get reimbursed if something goes lost on it’s way to a foreign country. If an item is sent outside of the eBay / PayPal domain, getting re-imbursed is ever more difficult.

And it is not just overseas shipping. Case in point - I sent a $500 classic postage stamp to a buyer in Texas a few years ago. It was an eBay transaction. I had sent it via USPS, with insurance, tracking number, etc. It disappeared. The buyer supposedly had told the PO to hold his mail while on vacation. The PO said they mistakenly delivered it and “someone” signed for it. It took me almost THREE MONTHS and a whole lot of paperwork to get my money back and then refund it to the buyer. It was an ugly process. Should something like that happen with an overseas shipment, good luck getting the PO in that country to own up to what happened or even respond to inquiries.

Would I have a problem shipping to Canada, Great Britain, France, etc…? Probably not, But there are other places (un mentioned here) where I would not even consider shipping to.

Anyway, that’s my viewpoint on it. :-)

73, Jim / W6JHB
Folsom, CA

> On Thursday, Aug 20, 2015, at Thursday, 9:42 AM, Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I'm not being critical of Arlen (or anyone), but why do so many people selling equipment not want to ship it overseas? If the buyer pays the actual shipping cost, then the only difference is the single customs declaration the seller has to fill out, which takes about 2 minutes. Payment can be made by Paypal, and shipment can be by USPS, or to most countries by UPS or Fedex.
>
> As someone who sent huge quantities of stuff from the USA to my kids here, I just don't get it.
>
> 73,
> Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO
> Rehovot, Israel
> http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/
>
> On 20 Aug 2015 18:33, Arlen Fletcher wrote:
>> I’m selling my K3/100 (S/N 81xx), P3 (S/N 31xx) and KPA500 (S/N 6xx)
>> as well as some other misc equipment. Continental U.S. buyers only
>> please!
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Don Wilhelm-4

Re: FS: K3/100, P3, KPA500, more...

In reply to this post by Vic Rosenthal

I also "don't get it". Especially those who specify "Continental USA"
or "Lower 48".
Priority Mail to Hawaii or Alaska or even Puerto Rico is just like that
in the rest of the US.

Yes, International shipping is not difficult at all, just fill in the
customs declaration.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/20/2015 12:42 PM, Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO wrote:

> I'm not being critical of Arlen (or anyone), but why do so many people
> selling equipment not want to ship it overseas? If the buyer pays the
> actual shipping cost, then the only difference is the single customs
> declaration the seller has to fill out, which takes about 2 minutes.
> Payment can be made by Paypal, and shipment can be by USPS, or to most
> countries by UPS or Fedex.
>
> As someone who sent huge quantities of stuff from the USA to my kids
> here, I just don't get it.
>

Joe Subich, W4TV-4

Re: FS: K3/100, P3, KPA500, more...

On 8/20/2015 12:59 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> I also "don't get it". Especially those who specify "Continental
> USA" or "Lower 48". Priority Mail to Hawaii or Alaska or even Puerto
> Rico is just like that in the rest of the US.

The seller here specified that he would pay standard surface shipping.
Those costs are substantially higher to Alaska, Hawaii, and other US
Territories. I can understand a limitation with regard to shipping.

> Yes, International shipping is not difficult at all, just fill in the
> customs declaration.

Customs declaration is only a small part of the issue ... most sellers
will get eaten alive by currency fees and there is no easy recourse if
something goes wrong in an international transaction. It's one thing
for me to ship a "care package" to my son in VE2 and entirely more of
a risk to ship $2000 worth of goods somewhere in a "developing economy"
- particularly ones that have histories of "postal issues."

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 8/20/2015 12:59 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

> I also "don't get it". Especially those who specify "Continental USA"
> or "Lower 48".
> Priority Mail to Hawaii or Alaska or even Puerto Rico is just like that
> in the rest of the US.
>
> Yes, International shipping is not difficult at all, just fill in the
> customs declaration.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 8/20/2015 12:42 PM, Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO wrote:
>> I'm not being critical of Arlen (or anyone), but why do so many people
>> selling equipment not want to ship it overseas? If the buyer pays the
>> actual shipping cost, then the only difference is the single customs
>> declaration the seller has to fill out, which takes about 2 minutes.
>> Payment can be made by Paypal, and shipment can be by USPS, or to most
>> countries by UPS or Fedex.
>>
>> As someone who sent huge quantities of stuff from the USA to my kids
>> here, I just don't get it.
>>
>
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Arlen Fletcher

Re: K3/100, P3, KPA500, more...

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The P3 has been spoken for.

Thanks.

Arlen - AA7F

> On Aug 20, 2015, at 8:33 AM, Arlen Fletcher <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I’m selling my K3/100 (S/N 81xx), P3 (S/N 31xx) and KPA500 (S/N 6xx) as well as some other misc equipment. Continental U.S. buyers only please! All gear is in proper working order and is from a smoke-free and animal-free home. The KPA500 has had one previous owner, and the AL-80B was an “open Box” purchase from DX Engineering. All the other equipment was purchased new and is being sold by the original owner. Photos are on my QRZ page (AA7F). I’ll pay for standard surface shipping, you pay the difference if you want expedited shipping. Payment accepted via cashier’s check only.
>
> Equipment details follow:
>
> Elecraft K3/100 - purchased new in March 2014 - Excellent condition, no scratches, no dents, $2800
>
> Includes:
>
> • KPA3 100W PA Module
> • KAT3 ATU Module
> • KXV3A RX Ant, IF Out, & Xverter Interface
> • KFL3A-2.7k 2700Hz, 5-pole filter
> • KFL3A-400 400Hz, 8-pole filter
> • KRX3 2nd Rcvr
> • KFL3A-2.7k 2700Hz 5-pole filter for KRX3
> • KFL3A-400 8-pole filter for KRX3
> • Manuals included
>
>
> Elecraft P3 - purchased new in March 2014 - Excellent condition, small scratch on the top surface of the front panel, no dents, $500
>
> Elecraft KPA500 - purchased used within the last 2 months (minor cosmetic scratches on rear of top panel from previous owner) $1700
>
>
>
> Non-Elecraft gear for sale:
>
> Ameritron AL80B amplifier - “Open Box” purchase from DX Engineering in 2014. The W8JI TOF module (http://www.w8ji.com/TOF1.htm) is installed in this amp. $850
>
> Palstar HF-Auto antenna tuner - (S/N 231xx) purchased new from DX Engineering in Aug 2014 - Excellent condition, no scratches, no dents, $1200
>
> LP100A Digital Vector Wattmeter (S/N 040xx) w/ standard coupler - purchased new from Telepost in Sept 2014, Excellent condition, no scratches, no dents, $350
>
> N3ZN model ZN5 Iambic Key, brass version, like new! (S/N 129) $275
>
> 73,
>
> Arlen - AA7F
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Vic Rosenthal

Re: FS: K3/100, P3, KPA500, more...

In reply to this post by Joe Subich, W4TV-4

You can pay by PayPal in US dollars and even add the commission fee if
the seller requests. Who gets eaten alive by currency conversion is the
buyer, not the seller.

With PayPal you have the same recourse regardless of the location of the
buyer. And of course you can ask for payment in advance. Sure, in the US
you can theoretically sue someone. Not practical for $2000.

It is the buyer that takes the risk of local problems, but if he wants
to pay the premium for UPS or FEDEX, then he can bypass the local postal
service.

73,
Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO
Rehovot, Israel
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/

On 20 Aug 2015 20:31, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

>
> On 8/20/2015 12:59 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>> I also "don't get it". Especially those who specify "Continental
>> USA" or "Lower 48". Priority Mail to Hawaii or Alaska or even Puerto
>> Rico is just like that in the rest of the US.
>
> The seller here specified that he would pay standard surface shipping.
> Those costs are substantially higher to Alaska, Hawaii, and other US
> Territories. I can understand a limitation with regard to shipping.
>
> > Yes, International shipping is not difficult at all, just fill in the
> > customs declaration.
>
> Customs declaration is only a small part of the issue ... most sellers
> will get eaten alive by currency fees and there is no easy recourse if
> something goes wrong in an international transaction. It's one thing
> for me to ship a "care package" to my son in VE2 and entirely more of
> a risk to ship $2000 worth of goods somewhere in a "developing economy"
> - particularly ones that have histories of "postal issues."
>
> 73,
>
> ... Joe, W4TV

Mike VE3YF

Re: K3/100, P3, KPA500, more...

In reply to this post by Arlen Fletcher

Hi Arlen:

I am greatly interested in the KPA500. I would get you to ship it to
Elecraft for me, this way you don't have to fill out any special
paperwork. Do you have any pictures available of the Amp and the area
where the scratches are. Also is the KPAK3Aux cable available. Tnx.

73 De Mike
VE3YF

http://www.ve3yf.com
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Bill-3

Re: FS: K3/100, P3, KPA500, more...

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Over the years I have sold a lot of ham gear on-line. I always
stipulated lower-48 only and stuck to it. It was easier and more cost
effective for me (the seller) and was my choice. That last part is very
important - "was my choice."

I see no reason to drag Arlene over the coals for making that choice.

Bill W2BLC K-Line
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Mike VE3YF

Re: FS: K3/100, P3, KPA500, more...

In reply to this post by Arlen Fletcher

I thought I would add my .02 cents worth. I have run into this
problem several times and never argued the fact with the seller. In
most cases, I would pass onto the seller that I wanted
it shipped to the factory or service center in the US, this way the
seller doesn't have any other paperwork to do. Also I have used Fedex
and done all the paperwork for customs etc and
then scheduled the pickup. I respect the wishes of the seller and no
sense debating it with him as it is his choice on where he would like
to ship it. I just try to meet the seller halfway or
better.

I have run into payment problems also a few times, I would prefer
everyone used Paypal, but that is not the way for everyone. I have
sent a cashiers cheque a few times and it hasn't worked
out 100% due to bank regulations and procedures in the US. Good old
Postal Money Orders always works though...

73 De Mike
VE3YF

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Edward R Cole

Re: FS: K3/100, P3, KPA500, more...

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Right, Don!

If someone does not want to sell something to Alaska - its simple - I
will not buy it (because they will not sell it to me - even when I
pay the shipping). I still get ignorant questions like do we use US
currency and do they need a passport to visit (AK became the 49th
state of the US in 1959...duh). I do not live in an igloo and rub
noses with my wife - either!

Regarding sales to other countries that is something the individual
will have to decide. I sell assembled DEMI kits world-wide (if the
buyer can pay for the shipping). 95% of my transactions are via
PayPal that automatically converts money into US funds (probably a
charge but its buried in their std fee). I have had a couple hams
from EU desire to pay with electronic transfer of funds but that is
charged a monetary conversion fee. My CU does not do wire transfers
so that required me to open a bank account in a bank offering this
service (which cost me a opening fee). I did one sale that way
(FT-847 for $1000 to Greece), but the buyer paid for all fees
including International Priority Mail. It took a month to arrive -
but he was happy with the purchase.

It is quite expensive to ship to UK/EU from the US. DEMI
transverters ship in the US Priority Mail for $11.80 (medium
flat-rate box) and I add $9 for $500 insurance. To EU the same
box+insurance cost $76.50. Don't even ask about UPS/Fedex. So I
understand reluctance by UK/EU buyers to pay the shipping, but they
face paying 17% Value Tax in EU-Union for products originating there.

I use on-line USPS shipping which charges my PayPal and I get to
print the prepaid label for my package. So all I have to do is drop
off the package at the PO (no waiting). Customs forms are generated
at the same time I fill out the postage and shipping info. In some
areas in the US the Postal Service will pick up packages from your home/office.

I have 37-foot of 1-5/8 inch Heliax hardline that a ham in NJ
wants. It will coil into a 4-foot diameter and weighs 26-lb but that
is too large to mail. Trucking from AK to NJ will be expensive. May
not justify the cost of shipping. So it does depend on certain
factors if it makes sense to buy/sell at a distance (even inside the lower-48).

73, Ed - KL7UW

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I also "don't get it". Especially those who specify "Continental USA"
or "Lower 48".
Priority Mail to Hawaii or Alaska or even Puerto Rico is just like that
in the rest of the US.

Yes, International shipping is not difficult at all, just fill in the
customs declaration.

73,
Don W3FPR

73, Ed - KL7UW
http://www.kl7uw.com
"Kits made by KL7UW"
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Joel Black-2

Shipping Overseas (Was: Re: FS: K3/100, P3, KPA500, more...)

I don’t ship overseas for one reason - I got screwed.

I have no idea to what countries I can and cannot mail amateur radio equipment. Unfortunately, I mailed to a country with whom we are not allowed to mail such items. The receiving country did not accept it but they did damage it extensively. I got it back and the USPS would not honor the insurance (although they gave me a refund of the insurance) I bought because I mailed to a country with whom we cannot mail amateur radio equipment (I hope you noticed the fully circular monologue there - that’s a small amount of what I endured). They accepted it at our local PO but would not honor the insurance. All of this took about six months.

You could argue that it’s my fault, but in my job, I am paid to inform others of the potential risks of their actions. I do take responsibility for my actions. I don’t claim fault with my actions though. I hope you understand the difference.

For *that* reason, I *refuse* to send overseas. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt (and the months of paperwork) and the loss of equipment to prove it.

I still use the USPS because they’re about the least expensive way to send items (UPS has almost doubled their prices over the past few months). I don’t use FedEx much because you have to look them in the face and say, “Pick that up and take it with you.”

As for DHL… They have:

1. When no one’s around, left packages lodged in the barbed-wire around our office.
2. When no one’s around, thrown items over the fence.
3. When no one’s around, left items between the gate and gate post that either fall or get crushed.

I thought DHL was out of business but just within the past week, they delivered one of my daughters’ textbooks to the house after 9:30PM (we go to bed earlier than that) in the rain. Luckily, the seller had wrapped the book in plastic a couple of times so we took no damage.

I would’t ship an anvil with DHL afraid they’d find that magic rubber mallet and break it!

Back to your regularly scheduled Elecraft information.

73,
Joel - W4JBB
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Re: Shipping Overseas (Was: Re: FS: K3/100, P3, KPA500, more...)

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Arlen Fletcher

Re: K3/100, P3, KPA500, more...

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The KPA500, ZN5 Key, and the P3 have all been sold pending funds.

Arlen Fletcher

Re: K3/100, P3, KPA500, more...

The KPA500, ZN5 Key, P3, AL80B, and LP-100A have all been sold - pending payment.

>
>
>> On Aug 20, 2015, at 8:33 AM, Arlen Fletcher <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> I’m selling my K3/100 (S/N 81xx), P3 (S/N 31xx) and KPA500 (S/N 6xx) as well as some other misc equipment. Continental U.S. buyers only please! All gear is in proper working order and is from a smoke-free and animal-free home. The KPA500 has had one previous owner, and the AL-80B was an “open Box” purchase from DX Engineering. All the other equipment was purchased new and is being sold by the original owner. Photos are on my QRZ page (AA7F). I’ll pay for standard surface shipping, you pay the difference if you want expedited shipping. Payment accepted via cashier’s check only.
>>
>> Equipment details follow:
>>
>> Elecraft K3/100 - purchased new in March 2014 - Excellent condition, no scratches, no dents, $2800
>>
>> Includes:
>>
>> • KPA3 100W PA Module
>> • KAT3 ATU Module
>> • KXV3A RX Ant, IF Out, & Xverter Interface
>> • KFL3A-2.7k 2700Hz, 5-pole filter
>> • KFL3A-400 400Hz, 8-pole filter
>> • KRX3 2nd Rcvr
>> • KFL3A-2.7k 2700Hz 5-pole filter for KRX3
>> • KFL3A-400 8-pole filter for KRX3
>> • Manuals included
>>
>>
>> Elecraft P3 - purchased new in March 2014 - Excellent condition, small scratch on the top surface of the front panel, no dents, $500
>>
>> Elecraft KPA500 - purchased used within the last 2 months (minor cosmetic scratches on rear of top panel from previous owner) $1700
>>
>>
>>
>> Non-Elecraft gear for sale:
>>
>> Ameritron AL80B amplifier - “Open Box” purchase from DX Engineering in 2014. The W8JI TOF module (http://www.w8ji.com/TOF1.htm) is installed in this amp. $850
>>
>> Palstar HF-Auto antenna tuner - (S/N 231xx) purchased new from DX Engineering in Aug 2014 - Excellent condition, no scratches, no dents, $1200
>>
>> LP100A Digital Vector Wattmeter (S/N 040xx) w/ standard coupler - purchased new from Telepost in Sept 2014, Excellent condition, no scratches, no dents, $350
>>
>> N3ZN model ZN5 Iambic Key, brass version, like new! (S/N 129) $275
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Arlen - AA7F
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