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Jim Sheldon

FT8 using internal USB sound on the K3S

For some reason I can't get WSJT-X to pull the input sound or send
output sound to the K3S through the USB port. I know I have some K3S
parameter(s) set wrong, but so far I haven't been able to figure out
which ones or how to change them.

I had this working before so not sure what I did to change it.

Feel like a total dummy, but at 76, I do forget some things - LOL

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Jim Sheldon, W0EB

Windows 10 PRO 64bit -I have the USB CODEC in the K3S configured as
sound in and out in device manager and nothing plugged in to the rear of
the K3S other than external speakers in the speaker jack - nothing to
MIC or LINE In or LINE Out.

Menu Settings:
MIC SEL is FP.L
MIC + LIN ON

CONFIG Settings:
KIO3B nor
LIN OUT nor 010
MIC BTN OFF
L --MIX -- R A B
RS232 USB
SPKRS 2
SPKR+PH YES

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Bob McGraw - K4TAX

Re: FT8 using internal USB sound on the K3S

Are you in DATA mode? MIC SEL should be Line In.
MIC (Line In ) level abt 30.

Bob, K4TAX

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> On Jun 25, 2018, at 9:33 AM, Jim Sheldon <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> For some reason I can't get WSJT-X to pull the input sound or send output sound to the K3S through the USB port. I know I have some K3S parameter(s) set wrong, but so far I haven't been able to figure out which ones or how to change them.
>
> I had this working before so not sure what I did to change it.
>
> Feel like a total dummy, but at 76, I do forget some things - LOL
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Jim Sheldon, W0EB
>
> Windows 10 PRO 64bit -I have the USB CODEC in the K3S configured as sound in and out in device manager and nothing plugged in to the rear of the K3S other than external speakers in the speaker jack - nothing to MIC or LINE In or LINE Out.
>
> Menu Settings:
> MIC SEL is FP.L
> MIC + LIN ON
>
> CONFIG Settings:
> KIO3B nor
> LIN OUT nor 010
> MIC BTN OFF
> L --MIX -- R A B
> RS232 USB
> SPKRS 2
> SPKR+PH YES
>
>
>
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Richard Ferch-2

Re: FT8 using internal USB sound on the K3S

In reply to this post by Jim Sheldon

It sounds as though you are putting the rig into USB mode. I believe you
would be better off putting the rig into DATA A. Set the rig's mode to DATA
and the data submode to DATA A. With the rig in DATA A, adjust the K3's
filter controls to put the Lo-Cut at around 0.20 and the Hi-Cut around 2.8.
With the rig in DATA A mode, set MIC SEL to LIN (this will not affect your
microphone setting for voice modes). MIC+LIN will be N/A. Adjust the MIC
gain control to somewhere above zero, e.g. LIN 5 or so.

In the WSJT-X Settings window under the Radio tab, if you are not using
some other radio control software such as the DXLab Suite Commander, then
set the CAT control port to the COM port number that Windows has assigned
to the K3S's USB serial port. Set the Mode in WSJT-X to either None or
Data/Pkt - not to USB. For PTT, I prefer to set WSJT-X's PTT method to VOX
and turn VOX on in the K3, or you can use PTT via CAT. Under Split
Operation, choose either Split or Fake It.

In the WSJT-X Settings window under the Sound tab, select the K3S's USB
Audio Codec as the soundcard device for both input and output.

Right-click on the Windows speaker icon in the Windows system tray and
select Playback devices, then select the USB Audio Codec (in the K3S) and
click on the Properties button. Select the Level tab and adjust the level
slider so it is in the middle of the range.

While receiving in WSJT-X with WSJT-X's Monitor function on, adjust the
K3S's LIN OUT level so that band noise alone is enough to bring the level
indicator on the left side of the WSJT-X window to about 30 dB or so. When
receiving actual signals, the level thermometer should not turn red; if it
does, reduce the K3S's LIN OUT level. In the Wide Graph window, you may
need to adjust the waterfall and spectrum gain and zero controls to get a
good looking spectrum and waterfall. I don't check Flatten - if you do,
make sure that the Wide Graph window does not display any frequencies
outside the K3S's filter bandpass.

Now transmitting into a dummy load or a dead band at low power or in TX
Test mode, put WSJT-X into transmit and adjust the Windows level slider
and/or the K3's MIC gain control to get 4-5 bars on the K3's ALC meter.
Once this is adjusted correctly, you should no longer need to adjust either
of these controls. Use the K3's PWR control to adjust the output power. Do
not try to control the output power by changing the audio level. Leave the
Pwr slider on the right side of the WSJT-X window at the top of its range
and don't change it.

73,
Rich VE3KI

W0EB wrote:

For some reason I can't get WSJT-X to pull the input sound or send output
sound to the K3S through the USB port. I know I have some K3S parameter(s)
set wrong, but so far I haven't been able to figure out which ones or how
to change them.

I had this working before so not sure what I did to change it.

Feel like a total dummy, but at 76, I do forget some things - LOL

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Jim Sheldon, W0EB

Windows 10 PRO 64bit -I have the USB CODEC in the K3S configured as sound
in and out in device manager and nothing plugged in to the rear of the K3S
other than external speakers in the speaker jack - nothing to MIC or LINE
In or LINE Out.

Menu Settings:
MIC SEL is FP.L
MIC + LIN ON

CONFIG Settings:
KIO3B nor
LIN OUT nor 010
MIC BTN OFF
L --MIX -- R A B
RS232 USB
SPKRS 2
SPKR+PH YES
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Don Wilhelm

Re: FT8 using internal USB sound on the K3S

In reply to this post by Jim Sheldon

Jim,

Do you have WSJT-X configured to use the USB CODEC for both input and
output?
Do you have anything plugged into the LINE IN jack on the back of the
K3S? Anything plugged in there will take priority over the internal
soundcard.

Is the MIC SEL menu set to LINE?

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/25/2018 10:33 AM, Jim Sheldon wrote:

> For some reason I can't get WSJT-X to pull the input sound or send
> output sound to the K3S through the USB port. I know I have some K3S
> parameter(s) set wrong, but so far I haven't been able to figure out
> which ones or how to change them.
>
> I had this working before so not sure what I did to change it.
>
> Feel like a total dummy, but at 76, I do forget some things - LOL
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Jim Sheldon, W0EB
>
> Windows 10 PRO 64bit -I have the USB CODEC in the K3S configured as
> sound in and out in device manager and nothing plugged in to the rear of
> the K3S other than external speakers in the speaker jack - nothing to
> MIC or LINE In or LINE Out.
>
> Menu Settings:
> MIC SEL is FP.L
> MIC + LIN ON
>
> CONFIG Settings:
> KIO3B nor
> LIN OUT nor 010
> MIC BTN OFF
> L --MIX -- R A B
> RS232 USB
> SPKRS 2
> SPKR+PH YES
>
>
>
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Jim Sheldon

Re: FT8 using internal USB sound on the K3S

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Subject: Re[2]: [Elecraft] FT8 using internal USB sound on the K3S

Nope, it's in DATA A. WSJT-X's CAT control works fine with the K3S,
setting frequency and DATA mode to DATA A (I forgot to mention that,
sorry). The problem has NO relation to the filter controls or any of
the other stuff.

Thanks Rich, but I already have WSJT-X set up the way you suggest except
I never touch the equalizations. I've found in the past that it only
distorts the signal.

The problem as I have stated twice now is WSJT-X can't open the audio
device. Windows 10's device manager reports it is working properly.
CAT via the same USB connection works properly, reads the K3S frequency,
sets the mode to DATA A as it should, test CAT and test PTT work as they
should. Just no audio input from the K3S. I have NOT tried TX audio to
the K3S and won't until I get the audio input working in receive first.

Thanks,

Jim - W0EB

------ Original Message ------
From: "Richard Ferch" <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: 6/25/2018 10:16:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FT8 using internal USB sound on the K3S

>It sounds as though you are putting the rig into USB mode. I believe
>you
>would be better off putting the rig into DATA A. Set the rig's mode to
>DATA
>and the data submode to DATA A. With the rig in DATA A, adjust the K3's
>filter controls to put the Lo-Cut at around 0.20 and the Hi-Cut around
>2.8.
>With the rig in DATA A mode, set MIC SEL to LIN (this will not affect
>your
>microphone setting for voice modes). MIC+LIN will be N/A. Adjust the
>MIC
>gain control to somewhere above zero, e.g. LIN 5 or so.
>
>In the WSJT-X Settings window under the Radio tab, if you are not using
>some other radio control software such as the DXLab Suite Commander,
>then
>set the CAT control port to the COM port number that Windows has
>assigned
>to the K3S's USB serial port. Set the Mode in WSJT-X to either None or
>Data/Pkt - not to USB. For PTT, I prefer to set WSJT-X's PTT method to
>VOX
>and turn VOX on in the K3, or you can use PTT via CAT. Under Split
>Operation, choose either Split or Fake It.
>
>In the WSJT-X Settings window under the Sound tab, select the K3S's USB
>Audio Codec as the soundcard device for both input and output.
>
>Right-click on the Windows speaker icon in the Windows system tray and
>select Playback devices, then select the USB Audio Codec (in the K3S)
>and
>click on the Properties button. Select the Level tab and adjust the
>level
>slider so it is in the middle of the range.
>
>While receiving in WSJT-X with WSJT-X's Monitor function on, adjust the
>K3S's LIN OUT level so that band noise alone is enough to bring the
>level
>indicator on the left side of the WSJT-X window to about 30 dB or so.
>When
>receiving actual signals, the level thermometer should not turn red; if
>it
>does, reduce the K3S's LIN OUT level. In the Wide Graph window, you may
>need to adjust the waterfall and spectrum gain and zero controls to get
>a
>good looking spectrum and waterfall. I don't check Flatten - if you do,
>make sure that the Wide Graph window does not display any frequencies
>outside the K3S's filter bandpass.
>
>Now transmitting into a dummy load or a dead band at low power or in TX
>Test mode, put WSJT-X into transmit and adjust the Windows level slider
>and/or the K3's MIC gain control to get 4-5 bars on the K3's ALC meter.
>Once this is adjusted correctly, you should no longer need to adjust
>either
>of these controls. Use the K3's PWR control to adjust the output power.
>Do
>not try to control the output power by changing the audio level. Leave
>the
>Pwr slider on the right side of the WSJT-X window at the top of its
>range
>and don't change it.
>
>73,
>Rich VE3KI
>
>
>W0EB wrote:
>
>For some reason I can't get WSJT-X to pull the input sound or send
>output
>sound to the K3S through the USB port. I know I have some K3S
>parameter(s)
>set wrong, but so far I haven't been able to figure out which ones or
>how
>to change them.
>
>I had this working before so not sure what I did to change it.
>
>Feel like a total dummy, but at 76, I do forget some things - LOL
>
>Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Jim Sheldon, W0EB
>
>Windows 10 PRO 64bit -I have the USB CODEC in the K3S configured as
>sound
>in and out in device manager and nothing plugged in to the rear of the
>K3S
>other than external speakers in the speaker jack - nothing to MIC or
>LINE
>In or LINE Out.
>
>Menu Settings:
>MIC SEL is FP.L
>MIC + LIN ON
>
>CONFIG Settings:
>KIO3B nor
>LIN OUT nor 010
>MIC BTN OFF
>L --MIX -- R A B
>RS232 USB
>SPKRS 2
>SPKR+PH YES
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Jim Sheldon

Re: FT8 using internal USB sound on the K3S

In reply to this post by Jim Sheldon

Nope, it's in DATA A. WSJT-X's CAT control works fine with the K3S,
setting frequency and DATA mode to DATA A (I forgot to mention that,
sorry). The problem has NO relation to the filter controls or any of
the other stuff.

Thanks Rich, but I already have WSJT-X set up the way you suggest except
I never touch the equalizations. I've found in the past that it only
distorts the signal.

The problem as I have stated twice now is WSJT-X can't open the audio
device. Windows 10's device manager reports it is working properly.
CAT via the same USB connection works properly, reads the K3S frequency,
sets the mode to DATA A as it should, test CAT and test PTT work as they
should. Just no audio input from the K3S. I have NOT tried TX audio to
the K3S and won't until I get the audio input working in receive first.

Thanks,

Jim - W0EB

------ Original Message ------
From: "Richard Ferch" <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: 6/25/2018 10:16:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FT8 using internal USB sound on the K3S

Jim Sheldon

Re: FT8 using internal USB sound on the K3S

In reply to this post by Jim Sheldon

Hi Don,
the answers to your questions were already answered but Yes, the CODEC
is configured for both input and output, nothing is plugged into the
back of the K3s and mic is set to LINE

I stated that in my previous posts.

I have tested the transmit audio with the K3S in TEST mode and I'm
getting TX audio from WSJT-X just fine -- it's the input from the K3S to
the computer that appears to be broken and I don't know how to check to
see if it's in the KIO3B or the computer.

Jim

------ Original Message ------
From: "Don Wilhelm" <[hidden email]>
To: "Jim Sheldon" <[hidden email]>; "[hidden email]"
<[hidden email]>
Sent: 6/25/2018 10:23:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FT8 using internal USB sound on the K3S

>Jim,
>
>Do you have WSJT-X configured to use the USB CODEC for both input and
>output?
>Do you have anything plugged into the LINE IN jack on the back of the
>K3S? Anything plugged in there will take priority over the internal
>soundcard.
>
>Is the MIC SEL menu set to LINE?
>
>73,
>Don W3FPR
>
>On 6/25/2018 10:33 AM, Jim Sheldon wrote:
>>For some reason I can't get WSJT-X to pull the input sound or send
>>output sound to the K3S through the USB port. I know I have some K3S
>>parameter(s) set wrong, but so far I haven't been able to figure out
>>which ones or how to change them.
>>
>>I had this working before so not sure what I did to change it.
>>
>>Feel like a total dummy, but at 76, I do forget some things - LOL
>>
>>Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>>Jim Sheldon, W0EB
>>
>>Windows 10 PRO 64bit -I have the USB CODEC in the K3S configured as
>>sound in and out in device manager and nothing plugged in to the rear
>>of
>>the K3S other than external speakers in the speaker jack - nothing to
>>MIC or LINE In or LINE Out.
>>
>>Menu Settings:
>>MIC SEL is FP.L
>>MIC + LIN ON
>>
>>CONFIG Settings:
>>KIO3B nor
>>LIN OUT nor 010
>>MIC BTN OFF
>>L --MIX -- R A B
>>RS232 USB
>>SPKRS 2
>>SPKR+PH YES
>>
>>
>>
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Richard Ferch-2

Re: FT8 using internal USB sound on the K3S

In reply to this post by Jim Sheldon

You mean that in WSJT-X's Settings window under the Audio tab, it won't let
you select the K3S's USB Audio Codec for input or output? That's not how I
read your message, but if that is the case, then you may have fallen victim
to a recent Windows 10 "improvement".

In the Windows 10 Settings window, choose Privacy. Then on the left side,
choose Microphone. A setting called "Let apps use my microphone" should
appear. Turn this to On. If this is the problem, turning this option to On
should permit WSJT-X to get access to the sound card again.

73,
Rich VE3KI

On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 11:27 AM, Jim Sheldon <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Nope, it's in DATA A. WSJT-X's CAT control works fine with the K3S,
> setting frequency and DATA mode to DATA A (I forgot to mention that,
> sorry). The problem has NO relation to the filter controls or any of the
> other stuff.
>
> Thanks Rich, but I already have WSJT-X set up the way you suggest except I
> never touch the equalizations. I've found in the past that it only
> distorts the signal.
>
> The problem as I have stated twice now is WSJT-X can't open the audio
> device. Windows 10's device manager reports it is working properly. CAT
> via the same USB connection works properly, reads the K3S frequency, sets
> the mode to DATA A as it should, test CAT and test PTT work as they
> should. Just no audio input from the K3S. I have NOT tried TX audio to
> the K3S and won't until I get the audio input working in receive first.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim - W0EB
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Richard Ferch" <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: 6/25/2018 10:16:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FT8 using internal USB sound on the K3S
>
> It sounds as though you are putting the rig into USB mode. I believe you
>> would be better off putting the rig into DATA A. Set the rig's mode to
>> DATA
>> and the data submode to DATA A. With the rig in DATA A, adjust the K3's
>> filter controls to put the Lo-Cut at around 0.20 and the Hi-Cut around
>> 2.8.
>> With the rig in DATA A mode, set MIC SEL to LIN (this will not affect your
>> microphone setting for voice modes). MIC+LIN will be N/A. Adjust the MIC
>> gain control to somewhere above zero, e.g. LIN 5 or so.
>>
>> In the WSJT-X Settings window under the Radio tab, if you are not using
>> some other radio control software such as the DXLab Suite Commander, then
>> set the CAT control port to the COM port number that Windows has assigned
>> to the K3S's USB serial port. Set the Mode in WSJT-X to either None or
>> Data/Pkt - not to USB. For PTT, I prefer to set WSJT-X's PTT method to VOX
>> and turn VOX on in the K3, or you can use PTT via CAT. Under Split
>> Operation, choose either Split or Fake It.
>>
>> In the WSJT-X Settings window under the Sound tab, select the K3S's USB
>> Audio Codec as the soundcard device for both input and output.
>>
>> Right-click on the Windows speaker icon in the Windows system tray and
>> select Playback devices, then select the USB Audio Codec (in the K3S) and
>> click on the Properties button. Select the Level tab and adjust the level
>> slider so it is in the middle of the range.
>>
>> While receiving in WSJT-X with WSJT-X's Monitor function on, adjust the
>> K3S's LIN OUT level so that band noise alone is enough to bring the level
>> indicator on the left side of the WSJT-X window to about 30 dB or so. When
>> receiving actual signals, the level thermometer should not turn red; if it
>> does, reduce the K3S's LIN OUT level. In the Wide Graph window, you may
>> need to adjust the waterfall and spectrum gain and zero controls to get a
>> good looking spectrum and waterfall. I don't check Flatten - if you do,
>> make sure that the Wide Graph window does not display any frequencies
>> outside the K3S's filter bandpass.
>>
>> Now transmitting into a dummy load or a dead band at low power or in TX
>> Test mode, put WSJT-X into transmit and adjust the Windows level slider
>> and/or the K3's MIC gain control to get 4-5 bars on the K3's ALC meter.
>> Once this is adjusted correctly, you should no longer need to adjust
>> either
>> of these controls. Use the K3's PWR control to adjust the output power. Do
>> not try to control the output power by changing the audio level. Leave the
>> Pwr slider on the right side of the WSJT-X window at the top of its range
>> and don't change it.
>>
>> 73,
>> Rich VE3KI
>>
>>
>> W0EB wrote:
>>
>> For some reason I can't get WSJT-X to pull the input sound or send output
>> sound to the K3S through the USB port. I know I have some K3S parameter(s)
>> set wrong, but so far I haven't been able to figure out which ones or how
>> to change them.
>>
>> I had this working before so not sure what I did to change it.
>>
>> Feel like a total dummy, but at 76, I do forget some things - LOL
>>
>> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Jim Sheldon, W0EB
>>
>> Windows 10 PRO 64bit -I have the USB CODEC in the K3S configured as sound
>> in and out in device manager and nothing plugged in to the rear of the K3S
>> other than external speakers in the speaker jack - nothing to MIC or LINE
>> In or LINE Out.
>>
>> Menu Settings:
>> MIC SEL is FP.L
>> MIC + LIN ON
>>
>> CONFIG Settings:
>> KIO3B nor
>> LIN OUT nor 010
>> MIC BTN OFF
>> L --MIX -- R A B
>> RS232 USB
>> SPKRS 2
>> SPKR+PH YES
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Jim Sheldon

Re: FT8 using internal USB sound on the K3S

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BINGO! Thank you very much Rich!!!! I knew it had worked before
Microshaft had forced the recent "improvement" on me. Microphone was
ON, but APP access to it was NOT. Very subtle change and that's why I
hadn't figured it out.

All works well now!!!!

Jim - W0EB

------ Original Message ------
From: "Richard Ferch" <[hidden email]>
To: "Jim Sheldon" <[hidden email]>
Cc: [hidden email]
Sent: 6/25/2018 10:39:18 AM
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [Elecraft] FT8 using internal USB sound on the K3S

>You mean that in WSJT-X's Settings window under the Audio tab, it won't
>let you select the K3S's USB Audio Codec for input or output? That's
>not how I read your message, but if that is the case, then you may have
>fallen victim to a recent Windows 10 "improvement".
>
>In the Windows 10 Settings window, choose Privacy. Then on the left
>side, choose Microphone. A setting called "Let apps use my microphone"
>should appear. Turn this to On. If this is the problem, turning this
>option to On should permit WSJT-X to get access to the sound card
>again.
>
>73,
>Rich VE3KI
>
>
>On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 11:27 AM, Jim Sheldon <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>Nope, it's in DATA A. WSJT-X's CAT control works fine with the K3S,
>>setting frequency and DATA mode to DATA A (I forgot to mention that,
>>sorry). The problem has NO relation to the filter controls or any of
>>the other stuff.
>>
>>Thanks Rich, but I already have WSJT-X set up the way you suggest
>>except I never touch the equalizations. I've found in the past that
>>it only distorts the signal.
>>
>>The problem as I have stated twice now is WSJT-X can't open the audio
>>device. Windows 10's device manager reports it is working properly.
>>CAT via the same USB connection works properly, reads the K3S
>>frequency, sets the mode to DATA A as it should, test CAT and test PTT
>>work as they should. Just no audio input from the K3S. I have NOT
>>tried TX audio to the K3S and won't until I get the audio input
>>working in receive first.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Jim - W0EB
>>
>>------ Original Message ------
>>From: "Richard Ferch" <[hidden email]>
>>To: [hidden email]
>>Sent: 6/25/2018 10:16:11 AM
>>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FT8 using internal USB sound on the K3S
>>
>>>It sounds as though you are putting the rig into USB mode. I believe
>>>you
>>>would be better off putting the rig into DATA A. Set the rig's mode
>>>to DATA
>>>and the data submode to DATA A. With the rig in DATA A, adjust the
>>>K3's
>>>filter controls to put the Lo-Cut at around 0.20 and the Hi-Cut
>>>around 2.8.
>>>With the rig in DATA A mode, set MIC SEL to LIN (this will not affect
>>>your
>>>microphone setting for voice modes). MIC+LIN will be N/A. Adjust the
>>>MIC
>>>gain control to somewhere above zero, e.g. LIN 5 or so.
>>>
>>>In the WSJT-X Settings window under the Radio tab, if you are not
>>>using
>>>some other radio control software such as the DXLab Suite Commander,
>>>then
>>>set the CAT control port to the COM port number that Windows has
>>>assigned
>>>to the K3S's USB serial port. Set the Mode in WSJT-X to either None
>>>or
>>>Data/Pkt - not to USB. For PTT, I prefer to set WSJT-X's PTT method
>>>to VOX
>>>and turn VOX on in the K3, or you can use PTT via CAT. Under Split
>>>Operation, choose either Split or Fake It.
>>>
>>>In the WSJT-X Settings window under the Sound tab, select the K3S's
>>>USB
>>>Audio Codec as the soundcard device for both input and output.
>>>
>>>Right-click on the Windows speaker icon in the Windows system tray
>>>and
>>>select Playback devices, then select the USB Audio Codec (in the K3S)
>>>and
>>>click on the Properties button. Select the Level tab and adjust the
>>>level
>>>slider so it is in the middle of the range.
>>>
>>>While receiving in WSJT-X with WSJT-X's Monitor function on, adjust
>>>the
>>>K3S's LIN OUT level so that band noise alone is enough to bring the
>>>level
>>>indicator on the left side of the WSJT-X window to about 30 dB or so.
>>>When
>>>receiving actual signals, the level thermometer should not turn red;
>>>if it
>>>does, reduce the K3S's LIN OUT level. In the Wide Graph window, you
>>>may
>>>need to adjust the waterfall and spectrum gain and zero controls to
>>>get a
>>>good looking spectrum and waterfall. I don't check Flatten - if you
>>>do,
>>>make sure that the Wide Graph window does not display any frequencies
>>>outside the K3S's filter bandpass.
>>>
>>>Now transmitting into a dummy load or a dead band at low power or in
>>>TX
>>>Test mode, put WSJT-X into transmit and adjust the Windows level
>>>slider
>>>and/or the K3's MIC gain control to get 4-5 bars on the K3's ALC
>>>meter.
>>>Once this is adjusted correctly, you should no longer need to adjust
>>>either
>>>of these controls. Use the K3's PWR control to adjust the output
>>>power. Do
>>>not try to control the output power by changing the audio level.
>>>Leave the
>>>Pwr slider on the right side of the WSJT-X window at the top of its
>>>range
>>>and don't change it.
>>>
>>>73,
>>>Rich VE3KI
>>>
>>>
>>>W0EB wrote:
>>>
>>>For some reason I can't get WSJT-X to pull the input sound or send
>>>output
>>>sound to the K3S through the USB port. I know I have some K3S
>>>parameter(s)
>>>set wrong, but so far I haven't been able to figure out which ones or
>>>how
>>>to change them.
>>>
>>>I had this working before so not sure what I did to change it.
>>>
>>>Feel like a total dummy, but at 76, I do forget some things - LOL
>>>
>>>Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>>Jim Sheldon, W0EB
>>>
>>>Windows 10 PRO 64bit -I have the USB CODEC in the K3S configured as
>>>sound
>>>in and out in device manager and nothing plugged in to the rear of
>>>the K3S
>>>other than external speakers in the speaker jack - nothing to MIC or
>>>LINE
>>>In or LINE Out.
>>>
>>>Menu Settings:
>>>MIC SEL is FP.L
>>>MIC + LIN ON
>>>
>>>CONFIG Settings:
>>>KIO3B nor
>>>LIN OUT nor 010
>>>MIC BTN OFF
>>>L --MIX -- R A B
>>>RS232 USB
>>>SPKRS 2
>>>SPKR+PH YES
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Brian Hunt

Re: FT8 using internal USB sound on the K3S

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A recent update to Win10 - v1803 - changed the permissions and security surrounding "devices" including the microphone. You have to change setting to allow the "microphone" to access apps since Windows thinks all sound cards are microphones. This little "upgrade" drove me nuts for days before someone posted the solution here.

This may well be your problem. GL!
73,
Brian, K0DTJ
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Jim Sheldon

Re: FT8 using internal USB sound on the K3S

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Thanks to Rich, VE3KI, I got the Windows 10 privacy settings fixed to
where WSJT-X and MMTTY can now access the K3S internal sound card.
Turns out Microsoft forced a huge upgrade on all their users but never
adequately explained that they shut off access to some things for
"privacy" reasons.

Sure caused me a lot of grief anyway - LOL.

Had all the K3S settings correct in the first place, just Microsoft
locking things out. Anyone else having such problems needs to first
check the Privacy setting in Windows just in case the same thing
happened to them.

Thanks again to all who tried to help.

Jim Sheldon - W0EB

PS had a quick FT-8 QSO with DG1ABE right after I got it working.

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