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That wasn't a bad fist, it is caused by bat wet-ware. What a lid.
Dan / WG4S / K2 #2456 <snip> His reply was "Your sending is choppy, your fist is terrible, and I cannot copy...73"... </snip> _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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> That wasn't a bad fist, it is caused by bat wet-ware. What a lid.
What exactly is a "lid"? A derogatory term for someone who asks silly questions I suppose. Anyone know the origin of the term? 73 Paul ZL3IN _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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What exactly is a "lid"? A derogatory term for someone who asks silly
questions I suppose. Anyone know the origin of the term? 73 Paul ZL3IN ---------------------- You'll get 100 answers at least to that question. In modern vernacular, a "LID" is a new operator. Hence he/she is likely to commit endless faux pas on the air, probably have a shaky, rough fist, scramble copy often and generally require a lot of extra effort to understand and to be understood by. Usually a good sort, a LID deserves whatever help he can get from the rest of the ops as he develops his operating skills. The most likely origin for "LID" comes from the days of wire telegraph in which a messaging office might have a number of operating positions with the individual sounders all clacking away with Morse. Newcomers were often totally distracted by the cacophony of noise and unable to separate the clacks of their sounder from those around them. One solution was to attach something, usually the lid of a tobacco tin, to their sounder so it would make a distinctive noise apart from all the others to help the new operator copy. Hence, a new operator as a "LID". Anyway, it's a nice story... Ron AC7AC _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by Paul Saville-2
Paul:
Here is the colorful (perhaps more myth than fact) version. Back in the pre-radio days of the old railroad telegraph, the receiver was a mechanical clicker that clicked in response to both the key closure and the key opening. The operator distinguished the dots and dashes by counting the length of the space between clicks. To make matters worse, the old telegraph stations were located on a big room with many clickers each connected to a different line. Each operator was responsible for one clicker, but all the others were audible in the background. (Kind'a makes working 40 meter CW look like a breeze, doesn't it?) As it happens, the precise sound made by each clicker was unique, and a veteran operator could tell the difference between his and all the others. However, the less seasoned operators could not tell them apart. The solution to the problem was to take the lid from a metal tobacco can and mount it on the clicker. It turns out that bending the lid at different angles produces different sounds that are easy to distinguish. That way the inexperienced operator could distinguish his clicker from all the others. Not surprisingly, this technique brought hoots of derision from the seasoned operators, who could easily recognize their own clicker without such a device. The old salts dismissed the the young pups as "can lid operators," later shortened to "lid operators," and finally shortened to simply "lids." Thus, the term originally referred to an operator whose technique revealed inexperience. As with many railroad telegraph traditions, it was inherited by radiotelegraphers. 73, Steve Kercel AA4AK At 09:23 AM 4/7/2005 +1200, you wrote: > > That wasn't a bad fist, it is caused by bat wet-ware. What a lid. > >What exactly is a "lid"? A derogatory term for someone who asks silly >questions I suppose. Anyone know the origin of the term? > >73 Paul ZL3IN > >_______________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Post to: [hidden email] >You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Here is the colorful (perhaps more myth than fact) version. =============================================== Thanks Steve, certainly colourful, and the best I've heard yet, I would like to think it was true! 73, Deni F5VJC / GM3SKN K2 1188 Make RF make QSO/s (Another gem from this list) "Bad fist" thread... _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by Dan Barker
In a message dated 4/6/05 5:10:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[hidden email] writes: > What exactly is a "lid"? A derogatory term for someone who asks silly > questions I suppose. Anyone know the origin of the term? > The tobbaco-can-lid story given by others is the origin, passed down from landwire telegraph days. The classic definition is "A poor operator". 73 de Jim, N2EY _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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