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FW: Handles and feet - was KPA 500 vs New 1500 watt amp

From: Erik Basilier [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 9:45 PM
To: 'Harry Yingst' <[hidden email]>
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Handles and feet - was KPA 500 vs New 1500 watt amp

Harry, I have considered doing the same. However, my experience with using the stick-ons is that the glue goes bad in a few years, and the foot falls off, leaving an ugly residue of glue.

From: Harry Yingst [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 8:35 PM
To: Erik Basilier <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> >; 'Nr4c' <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> >; 'Clay Autery' <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> >
Cc: [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Handles and feet - was KPA 500 vs New 1500 watt amp

I put little stick on feet where two peices of gear may touch

-------- Original message --------
From: Erik Basilier <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> >
Date: 2017-04-21 10:59 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: 'Nr4c' <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> >, 'Clay Autery' <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> >
Cc: [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Handles and feet - was KPA 500 vs New 1500 watt amp

As the number of Elecraft boxes on my shelf has grown, what I have long
feared has recently happened: The handle on one box (or probably a screw on
the handle) created a small scratch on the nude side of neighboring box. It
looks like the KPA1500 handle design is unchanged. Maybe it is time for an
upgrade of the handle design, or maybe we could use a kit of add-on feet or
spacers?

73,
Erik K7TV

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Nr4c
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 7:44 PM
To: Clay Autery <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> >
Cc: [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA 500 vs New 1500 watt amp

It's for carrying and the little feet keep the case from getting scratched.

There's no space or - in Elecraft products.

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill

> On Apr 21, 2017, at 6:35 PM, Clay Autery <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> > wrote:
>
> Cannot wait to get a look inside....
>
> There IS a handle on the left side (as you look at it). I don't know
> if the small feet on the right side are for vertical orientation or to
> prevent the total blockage of the vents if shoved up next to another
> K-line product OR the power supply box...
>
> ______________________
> Clay Autery, KY5G
>

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Re: FW: Handles and feet - was KPA 500 vs New 1500 watt amp

OK.....

1) For the "feet", find a supply of little discs of desired thickness
made from Sorbothane.
2) Buy the appropriate 3M Command strips..... removable. Even if the
glue goes, it will come right off.

Or you can do the research and get the right glue chemistry for the
application and have it applied to the Sorbothane discs...

73,

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
MONTAC Enterprises
(318) 518-1389

On 4/22/2017 12:32 AM, Erik Basilier wrote:

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> From: Erik Basilier [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 9:45 PM
> To: 'Harry Yingst' <[hidden email]>
> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Handles and feet - was KPA 500 vs New 1500 watt amp
>
>
>
> Harry, I have considered doing the same. However, my experience with using the stick-ons is that the glue goes bad in a few years, and the foot falls off, leaving an ugly residue of glue.
>
>
>
> From: Harry Yingst [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 8:35 PM
> To: Erik Basilier <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> >; 'Nr4c' <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> >; 'Clay Autery' <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> >
> Cc: [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Handles and feet - was KPA 500 vs New 1500 watt amp
>
>
>
> I put little stick on feet where two peices of gear may touch
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Erik Basilier <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> >
> Date: 2017-04-21 10:59 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: 'Nr4c' <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> >, 'Clay Autery' <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> >
> Cc: [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Handles and feet - was KPA 500 vs New 1500 watt amp
>
> As the number of Elecraft boxes on my shelf has grown, what I have long
> feared has recently happened: The handle on one box (or probably a screw on
> the handle) created a small scratch on the nude side of neighboring box. It
> looks like the KPA1500 handle design is unchanged. Maybe it is time for an
> upgrade of the handle design, or maybe we could use a kit of add-on feet or
> spacers?
>
> 73,
> Erik K7TV
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Nr4c
> Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 7:44 PM
> To: Clay Autery <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> >
> Cc: [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA 500 vs New 1500 watt amp
>
> It's for carrying and the little feet keep the case from getting scratched.
>
> There's no space or - in Elecraft products.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
>
>
>> On Apr 21, 2017, at 6:35 PM, Clay Autery <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> > wrote:
>>
>> Cannot wait to get a look inside....
>>
>> There IS a handle on the left side (as you look at it). I don't know
>> if the small feet on the right side are for vertical orientation or to
>> prevent the total blockage of the vents if shoved up next to another
>> K-line product OR the power supply box...
>>
>> ______________________
>> Clay Autery, KY5G
>>
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K7TV

Re: FW: Handles and feet - was KPA 500 vs New 1500 watt amp

In reply to this post by K7TV

Clay, that sounds like a proper engineering solution, but overkill since
Elecraft has already found a solution used for the side panel feet, that
shows no signs of failure over 10 years. Moreover, using your approach would
likely affect the resale value negatively, while an official solution
(adding more feet like the existing side feet, or slightly thicker) from
Elecraft might not.

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Clay
Autery
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 10:37 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FW: Handles and feet - was KPA 500 vs New 1500 watt
amp

OK.....

1) For the "feet", find a supply of little discs of desired thickness made
from Sorbothane.
2) Buy the appropriate 3M Command strips..... removable. Even if the glue
goes, it will come right off.

Or you can do the research and get the right glue chemistry for the
application and have it applied to the Sorbothane discs...

73,

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
MONTAC Enterprises
(318) 518-1389

On 4/22/2017 12:32 AM, Erik Basilier wrote:

the stick-ons is that the glue goes bad in a few years, and the foot falls
off, leaving an ugly residue of glue.

>
>
>
> From: Harry Yingst [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 8:35 PM
> To: Erik Basilier <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> >;
> 'Nr4c' <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> >; 'Clay
> Autery' <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> >
> Cc: [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Handles and feet - was KPA 500 vs New 1500
> watt amp
>
>
>
> I put little stick on feet where two peices of gear may touch
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Erik Basilier <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> >
> Date: 2017-04-21 10:59 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: 'Nr4c' <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> >, 'Clay
> Autery' <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> >
> Cc: [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Handles and feet - was KPA 500 vs New 1500
> watt amp
>
> As the number of Elecraft boxes on my shelf has grown, what I have
> long feared has recently happened: The handle on one box (or probably
> a screw on the handle) created a small scratch on the nude side of
> neighboring box. It looks like the KPA1500 handle design is unchanged.
> Maybe it is time for an upgrade of the handle design, or maybe we
> could use a kit of add-on feet or spacers?
>
> 73,
> Erik K7TV
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
> Nr4c
> Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 7:44 PM
> To: Clay Autery <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> >
> Cc: [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA 500 vs New 1500 watt amp
>
> It's for carrying and the little feet keep the case from getting

scratched.
>
> There's no space or - in Elecraft products.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
>
>
>> On Apr 21, 2017, at 6:35 PM, Clay Autery <[hidden email]
<mailto:[hidden email]> > wrote:

>>
>> Cannot wait to get a look inside....
>>
>> There IS a handle on the left side (as you look at it). I don't know
>> if the small feet on the right side are for vertical orientation or
>> to prevent the total blockage of the vents if shoved up next to
>> another K-line product OR the power supply box...
>>
>> ______________________
>> Clay Autery, KY5G
>>
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Clay Autery

Re: FW: Handles and feet - was KPA 500 vs New 1500 watt amp

Never said I would use that solution.... and it would not affect resale
as it is cleanly removable without tool or solvent and no marring of the
surface.

I am perfectly happy with the stock side panel protectors. :-)

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G

On 4/22/2017 1:21 AM, Erik Basilier wrote:

> Clay, that sounds like a proper engineering solution, but overkill since
> Elecraft has already found a solution used for the side panel feet, that
> shows no signs of failure over 10 years. Moreover, using your approach would
> likely affect the resale value negatively, while an official solution
> (adding more feet like the existing side feet, or slightly thicker) from
> Elecraft might not.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Clay
> Autery
> Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 10:37 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FW: Handles and feet - was KPA 500 vs New 1500 watt
> amp
>
> OK.....
>
> 1) For the "feet", find a supply of little discs of desired thickness made
> from Sorbothane.
> 2) Buy the appropriate 3M Command strips..... removable. Even if the glue
> goes, it will come right off.
>
> Or you can do the research and get the right glue chemistry for the
> application and have it applied to the Sorbothane discs...
>
> 73,
>
> ______________________
> Clay Autery, KY5G
> MONTAC Enterprises
> (318) 518-1389
>
> On 4/22/2017 12:32 AM, Erik Basilier wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Erik Basilier [mailto:[hidden email]]
>> Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 9:45 PM
>> To: 'Harry Yingst' <[hidden email]>
>> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Handles and feet - was KPA 500 vs New 1500
>> watt amp
>>
>>
>>
>> Harry, I have considered doing the same. However, my experience with using
> the stick-ons is that the glue goes bad in a few years, and the foot falls
> off, leaving an ugly residue of glue.
>>
>>
>> From: Harry Yingst [mailto:[hidden email]]
>> Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 8:35 PM
>> To: Erik Basilier <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> >;
>> 'Nr4c' <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> >; 'Clay
>> Autery' <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> >
>> Cc: [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Handles and feet - was KPA 500 vs New 1500
>> watt amp
>>
>>
>>
>> I put little stick on feet where two peices of gear may touch
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Erik Basilier <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> >
>> Date: 2017-04-21 10:59 PM (GMT-05:00)
>> To: 'Nr4c' <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> >, 'Clay
>> Autery' <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> >
>> Cc: [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Handles and feet - was KPA 500 vs New 1500
>> watt amp
>>
>> As the number of Elecraft boxes on my shelf has grown, what I have
>> long feared has recently happened: The handle on one box (or probably
>> a screw on the handle) created a small scratch on the nude side of
>> neighboring box. It looks like the KPA1500 handle design is unchanged.
>> Maybe it is time for an upgrade of the handle design, or maybe we
>> could use a kit of add-on feet or spacers?
>>
>> 73,
>> Erik K7TV
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
>> Nr4c
>> Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 7:44 PM
>> To: Clay Autery <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> >
>> Cc: [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA 500 vs New 1500 watt amp
>>
>> It's for carrying and the little feet keep the case from getting
> scratched.
>> There's no space or - in Elecraft products.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> ...nr4c. bill
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 21, 2017, at 6:35 PM, Clay Autery <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]> > wrote:
>>> Cannot wait to get a look inside....
>>>
>>> There IS a handle on the left side (as you look at it). I don't know
>>> if the small feet on the right side are for vertical orientation or
>>> to prevent the total blockage of the vents if shoved up next to
>>> another K-line product OR the power supply box...
>>>
>>> ______________________
>>> Clay Autery, KY5G
>>>
>> ______________________________________________________________
>> Elecraft mailing list
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Stan Horzepa

Re: FW: Handles and feet - was KPA 500 vs New 1500 watt amp

In reply to this post by K7TV

Goo Gone will remove an ugly (or pretty) residue of glue.

73,

Stan, WA1LOU

On 4/22/17 1:32 AM, Erik Basilier wrote: