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Dan Barker
The reason we do our quoting manually is that many list-members are on very
slow or pay-by-the-kilobit connections, and all 'Crafters on the list are
supposed to minimize the amount of text quoted.

If I'd just let Outlook quote your note, 3,811 bytes would be appended below
my sig. and the listserver additions would occur many times over the life of
a thread. As it is done, only  138 bytes are.

Admittedly, some postings are done more clearly that others<g>.

Dan / WG4S / K2 #2456

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Is there a specific reason why some of you folks don't have your email
software adding the quote characters "> "[?]
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RE: Quoted text

Craig Rairdin
> Is there a specific reason why some of you folks don't have your email
> software adding the quote characters "> "

For the vast majority of my email, especially business correspondence, I
prefer to keep the entire conversation intact. It's only on mailing lists
like this one where one has to be sensitive to the preferences of thousands
of readers that I tighten up the responses.

I've found when you are letting the entire conversation accumulate below
your most recent entry, having it automatically indent or add > characters
results in a real mess. By turning that option off I have more control.

I prefer the quoting method above vs. the "Dan wrote..." method, but either
way, as long as it gets cleaned up before it gets posted, it's good. I also
prefer putting the brief quoted text ABOVE my reply, and quoting just enough
to remind the reader what I'm responding to, as above. OTOH when leaving the
entire conversation intact one should always reply above the previous posts,
as has been pointed out (quite correctly) by our moderator here.

Craig
NZ0R
K1 #1966

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Re: Quoted text

Paul Bruneau
In reply to this post by Dan Barker
On Apr 14, 2005, at 8:46 AM, Dan Barker wrote:

> The reason we do our quoting manually is that many list-members are on
> very
> slow or pay-by-the-kilobit connections, and all 'Crafters on the list
> are
> supposed to minimize the amount of text quoted.
>
> If I'd just let Outlook quote your note, 3,811 bytes would be appended
> below
> my sig. and the listserver additions would occur many times over the
> life of
> a thread. As it is done, only  138 bytes are.
>
> Admittedly, some postings are done more clearly that others<g>.

There were several responses along this line, so let me clarify. I am
all in favor of trimming the quoted text to an appropriate snippet,
that was not my point.

The point of my query was that regardless of how much of the quoted
text is included in the reply, if there is no quote character in front
of it, it is darn hard to see what is being quoted and what is the
reply.

Thanks,
PB
K2 #4818 still winding toroids!

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Re: Quoted text

G3VVT
In reply to this post by Dan Barker
 
In a message dated 14/04/05 13:26:26 GMT Daylight Time,  [hidden email]
writes:

Is there  a specific reason why some of you folks don't have your email
software  adding the quote characters "> " to the quoted material from
the  messages to which you are replying, or is it just an accident? It
makes it  very hard to see what the reply is and who has replied (see
below for an  example). I've never seen this behavior before I joined
this mailing  list.

Thanks,

Paul



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Paul,
 
My particular e-mail software just does not appear to do what you ask,  only
quotes any parts I happen to highlight on the original document.  This shown
at least to me as indented text as is your original message  quoted at the head
of this reply, but which unfortunately gets lost through  the system. Also,
which I think is even more important, try to keep the parts of  the original
included brief, only use the parts that have relevance to my  reply.
 
One day may find the method of doing what you ask to include the ">"  
characters and let you go away rejoicing.
 
Conversely I find the use of continual ">" characters cloud the whole  
message with semi useless information that is even more frustrating when  posters
persist in adding the whole message when it is not really needed,  plus *all* of
any previous multiple replies with double and triple ">"  characters. Must
really use up Eric's storage space for the  Reflector.
 
It sometimes gets bewildering to search though such messages to find what  
the poster's reply actually is!
 
Bob, G3VVT
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Re: Quoted text

g4ilo-2
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In my case, it's because I'm reading the reflector online, via the
archives, so I have to paste in the text I'm quoting manually. The same
would apply to those who receive the digests. Quoting an entire digest when
replying to a post is extremely embarrassing, and I expect that a lot of
people who get the digests turn off the quoting option to avoid doing it
accidentally.

Julian, G4ILO

Paul Bruneau <[hidden email]> wrote:

Is there a specific reason why some of you folks don't have your email
software adding the quote characters "> " to the quoted material from the
messages to which you are replying, or is it just an accident? It makes it
very hard to see what the reply is and who has replied (see below for an
example). I've never seen this behavior before I joined this mailing list.


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RE: Quoted text

Ron D'Eau Claire-2
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PB wrote:
The point of my query was that regardless of how much of the quoted
text is included in the reply, if there is no quote character in front
of it, it is darn hard to see what is being quoted and what is the
reply.

Reply ---------------------------------------------------

Since you used one of my posts as an example, I don't have to wonder if
you've had trouble with my messages! I apologize.

I, too, find the > distracting. It causes odd line breaks and makes the text
hard to read for me. So I use a line across the text like above. One time
recently I accidentally left it out, but it's supposed to be there.

Does this help?

Ron AC7AC


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Re: Quoted text

Nigel-14
In reply to this post by Dan Barker
Another reason is that if you receive the reflector in Digest Mode you
cannot just hit the 'Reply' button.    You have to cut and paste the
previous correspondence into a new email.   Under these circumstances it is
very hard to prefix each line with a '>'

I do my best, and top post.
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73s,  Nigel ZL2DF

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