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Favorite K2 Remote Program?

Mark J. Schreiner
Now that I have the KIO2 installed I'm anxious to test it out.  I see quite a long list of programs that provide support for the K2.  Just wondering what is your favorite such program and why?  I don't (at least initially plan to) do remote control over the network, but that would be slick someday (would I get any work done then?).  I mostly would be interested in controlling various features of the radio, some of which may be easier via computer control than from the front panel, ability to grab the frequency & mode for logging, and set up scanning parameters (upper/lower frequency limits or scanning memories).  

I also plan to use computer interface to a Rigblaster for PSK31.  Was planning on running the latest version of DigiPan, but I see that Ham Radio Deluxe has it built in as well.  I've heard great things about HRD.  Do folk here concur?

Thanks for your input!

Mark, NK8Q
K2 #4786


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Re: Favorite K2 Remote Program?

Jim Brown-10
On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:39:22 -0500 (CDT), [hidden email]
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>I've heard great things about HRD.  Do folk here concur?

YES! See my review on eham. In the year since I wrote it, it's only
gotten better, and logging has been added. N4PY's software
originally written for TenTec also supports K2, and is quite well
respected. I have not used it.

If you want to work contests, Writelog works quite well with the K2
serial interface.  

Jim Brown  K9YC


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Re: Favorite K2 Remote Program?

N8LP
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The best commercial product for remote control IMHO is TRX-Manager,
especially for Kenwood TS480/2000 and K2. You might want to try the free
30 day trial. But if remote control is not important, there are several
good freebies to try, including HRD.

Larry N8LP



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>Now that I have the KIO2 installed I'm anxious to test it out.  I see quite a long list of programs that provide support for the K2.  Just wondering what is your favorite such program and why?  I don't (at least initially plan to) do remote control over the network, but that would be slick someday (would I get any work done then?).  I mostly would be interested in controlling various features of the radio, some of which may be easier via computer control than from the front panel, ability to grab the frequency & mode for logging, and set up scanning parameters (upper/lower frequency limits or scanning memories).  
>
>I also plan to use computer interface to a Rigblaster for PSK31.  Was planning on running the latest version of DigiPan, but I see that Ham Radio Deluxe has it built in as well.  I've heard great things about HRD.  Do folk here concur?
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>Thanks for your input!
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>Mark, NK8Q
>K2 #4786
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Re: Favorite K2 Remote Program?

Chris-488
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DxLabs is good and Free!

DxKeeper is the logging module, comprehensive, good QSL management.

Commander is the remote control part of the suite. It is basic but works
well and you can set up the macros do do quite a bit. See the K2
Programmers Reference, on the Elecraft site, for the necessary commands.

It also has a PSK module WinWarbler

MixW and Digipan both work for PSK31 with the K2

The HRD PSK31 superbrowser is pretty impressive to watch. I think that
HRD falls down in the logging department.

There are bridging module to use MixW, HRD data in the DxLabs DxKeeper
logbook.

Chris - VP8BKF

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>Now that I have the KIO2 installed I'm anxious to test it out.  I see quite a long list of programs that provide support for the K2.  Just wondering what is your favorite such program and why?  I don't (at least initially plan to) do remote control over the network, but that would be slick someday (would I get any work done then?).  I mostly would be interested in controlling various features of the radio, some of which may be easier via computer control than from the front panel, ability to grab the frequency & mode for logging, and set up scanning parameters (upper/lower frequency limits or scanning memories).  
>
>I also plan to use computer interface to a Rigblaster for PSK31.  Was planning on running the latest version of DigiPan, but I see that Ham Radio Deluxe has it built in as well.  I've heard great things about HRD.  Do folk here concur?
>
>Thanks for your input!
>
>Mark, NK8Q
>K2 #4786
>  
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Re: Favorite K2 Remote Program?

Richard Thorne-2
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I would check out TRX-Manager.  I use it currently with my TS-480 via
remote control.  The K2 will be another rig I plan on using (hoping to
make it my winter project later this year).  It has a nice window that
gives you, what looks like, full control of the K2.

Rich - N5ZC

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Subject: [Elecraft] Favorite K2 Remote Program?


> Now that I have the KIO2 installed I'm anxious to test it out.  I see
> quite a long list of programs that provide support for the K2.  Just
> wondering what is your favorite such program and why?  I don't (at
> least initially plan to) do remote control over the network, but that
> would be slick someday (would I get any work done then?).  I mostly
> would be interested in controlling various features of the radio, some
> of which may be easier via computer control than from the front panel,
> ability to grab the frequency & mode for logging, and set up scanning
> parameters (upper/lower frequency limits or scanning memories).
>
> I also plan to use computer interface to a Rigblaster for PSK31.  Was
> planning on running the latest version of DigiPan, but I see that Ham
> Radio Deluxe has it built in as well.  I've heard great things about
> HRD.  Do folk here concur?
>
> Thanks for your input!
>
> Mark, NK8Q
> K2 #4786
>
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Re: Favorite K2 Remote Program?

Stewart Baker
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On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:39:22 -0500 (CDT), [hidden email] wrote:
> Now that I have the KIO2 installed I'm anxious to test it out.  I see quite a
> long list of programs that provide support for the K2.  

To add to the list - if you like to contest try N1MM. It's free, and I.M.H.O. is
the best contest logging program around. Integration with the K2 is perfect.

73
Stewart G3RXQ

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Re: Favorite K2 Remote Program?

Jack Brindle

On Apr 27, 2005, at 11:00 PM, Stewart Baker wrote:

> On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:39:22 -0500 (CDT), [hidden email] wrote:
>> Now that I have the KIO2 installed I'm anxious to test it out.  I see  
>> quite a
>> long list of programs that provide support for the K2.
>
> To add to the list - if you like to contest try N1MM. It's free, and  
> I.M.H.O. is
> the best contest logging program around. Integration with the K2 is  
> perfect.

Be very careful with the N1MM software. It is revised very often, and  
not all of the upgrades are good. Last November I lost about two hours  
of operating time in the ARRL November Sweepstakes because of a bug in  
the version of the software I was running. It turns out that Tom had  
introduced a "feature" two revs earlier and backed it out three  
versions later. It didn't help me at the time.

The real story here is to always extensively test your setup,  
especially the computer software, before any contest to make sure you  
won't have troubles during the contest. In my case, the problem showed  
up six hours after the start of the contest, but I still should have  
done much more testing before then...

One other point. CW keying from N1MM logger requires the use of either  
a port output line (serial or parallel) or the K1EL keyer interface.  
The Elecraft / Kenwood KY facility is not supported despite requests to  
do so.

Still, it is very good software, and getting even more interesting with  
the now-in-test version 5.0.

- Jack Brindle, W6FB
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Re: Favorite K2 Remote Program?

g4ilo-2
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By my definition, a remote program is one that allows you to use the radio
from another location, via a radio or Internet link.

If you just want a program to run on the computer next to the radio then
MixW would be my choice. It supports more data modes than any other
program, plus SSTV and CW, and has a logging feature that can be used on
all modes. I'm not a serious contester, but its contest support seems
pretty good to me.

My own program K2Net provides a remote K2 front panel that can be used
across the Internet. However it is not, and is never likely to, do all the
things TRX Manager can, especially as I have somewhat lost interest in
writing software for radio hams following the abuse I received trying to
stick up for commercial software developers (see the blog on my website if
you're interested.)

Julian, G4ILO
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Re: Favorite K2 Remote Program?

Thom LaCosta
On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 [hidden email] wrote:

>
> My own program K2Net provides a remote K2 front panel that can be used
> across the Internet. However it is not, and is never likely to, do all the
> things TRX Manager can, especially as I have somewhat lost interest in
> writing software for radio hams following the abuse I received trying to
> stick up for commercial software developers (see the blog on my website if
> you're interested.)

Ain't it amazing.....you can pay > 1000 bucks for a radio and then whine about
paying for software.

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Re: Favorite K2 Remote Program?

Stewart Baker
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On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 23:22:51 -0700, Jack Brindle wrote:

> Be very careful with the N1MM software. It is revised very often, and
> not all of the upgrades are good.

>>The same is true of all software that is Beta.
>>There are many warnings about this on the site.
>
> The real story here is to always extensively test your setup,
> especially the computer software, before any contest to make sure you
> won't have troubles during the contest.

>>Ain't that the truth...

> Still, it is very good software, and getting even more interesting with
> the now-in-test version 5.0.

>>Agreed.

>>73
>>Stewart G3RXQ
>
> - Jack Brindle, W6FB
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Re: Favorite K2 Remote Program?

N8LP
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Another good choice is Hamscope. It's still free I think, and it links
to TRX-Manager thru OLE, so you can use one common rig controller and log.

Another well integrated package is the DXLab suite. It is free, and
extremely well supported, but not in the league of TRX for remote control.

As a developer Julian, I am really sorry to hear about your experiences.
If I ever charge for any of my software, I'll do it as shareware... the
gentlemen will send something, the others will have nothing to complain
about ;-)

Larry N8LP



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>If you just want a program to run on the computer next to the radio then
>MixW would be my choice. It supports more data modes than any other
>program, plus SSTV and CW, and has a logging feature that can be used on
>all modes. I'm not a serious contester, but its contest support seems
>pretty good to me.
>My own program K2Net provides a remote K2 front panel that can be used
>across the Internet. However it is not, and is never likely to, do all the
>things TRX Manager can, especially as I have somewhat lost interest in
>writing software for radio hams following the abuse I received trying to
>stick up for commercial software developers (see the blog on my website if
>you're interested.)
>
>Julian, G4ILO
>G4ILO's Shack: http://www.tech-pro.net/g4ilo
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Re: Favorite K2 Remote Program?

hank  k8dd-2
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Jack Brindle wrote:

>
> Be very careful with the N1MM software. It is revised very often, and  
> not all of the upgrades are good.


That is one of the reasons I still use CT (DOS) and CTWin (Windows 98
and up).
Free and one of the most widely used contest programs.

72   73    Hank    K8DD
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Re: Favorite K2 Remote Program?

Greg Fischer-4
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TRX Manager also has a dedicated K2 screen as well already built in.



-------------- Original message --------------

>
> Another good choice is Hamscope. It's still free I think, and it links
> to TRX-Manager thru OLE, so you can use one common rig controller and log.
>
> Another well integrated package is the DXLab suite. It is free, and
> extremely well supported, but not in the league of TRX for remote control.
>
> As a developer Julian, I am really sorry to hear about your experiences.
> If I ever charge for any of my software, I'll do it as shareware... the
> gentlemen will send something, the others will have nothing to complain
> about ;-)
>
> Larry N8LP
>
>
>
> [hidden email] wrote:
>
> >If you just want a program to run on the computer next to the radio then
> >MixW would be my choice. It supports more data modes than any other
> >program, plus SSTV and CW, and has a logging feature that can be used on
> >all modes. I'm not a serious contester, but its contest support seems
> >pretty good to me.
> >My own program K2Net provides a remote K2 front panel that can be used
> >across the Internet. However it is not, and is never likely to, do all the
> >things TRX Manager can, especially as I have somewhat lost interest in
> >writing software for radio hams following the abuse I received trying to
> >stick up for commercial software developers (see the blog on my website if
> >you're interested.)
> >
> >Julian, G4ILO
> >G4ILO's Shack: http://www.tech-pro.net/g4ilo 
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Re: Favorite K2 Remote Program?

N8LP

I should point out that TRX is very well supported by the author, and he
allows OLE linking of third party software and hardware. I have some
freeware apps on my website that support TRX for use with rotators,
SteppIRs, remote relays, etc.

Larry N8LP
www.telepostinc.com/n8lp.html



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> TRX Manager also has a dedicated K2 screen as well already built in.
>  
>  
>  
>
>     -------------- Original message --------------
>
>     >
>     > Another good choice is Hamscope. It's still free I think, and it
>     links
>     > to TRX-Manager thru OLE, so you can use one common rig
>     controller and log.
>     >
>     > Another well integrated package is the DXLab suite. It is free, and
>     > extremely well supported, but not in the league of TRX for
>     remote control.
>     >
>     > As a developer Julian, I am really sorry to hear about your
>     experiences.
>     > If I ever charge for any of my software, I'll do it as
>     shareware... the
>     > gentlemen will send something, the others will have nothing to
>     complain
>     > about ;-)
>     >
>     > Larry N8LP
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > [hidden email] wrote:
>     >
>     > >If you just want a program to run on the computer next to the
>     radio then
>     > >MixW would be my choice. It supports more data modes than any
>     other
>     > >program, plus SSTV and CW, and has a logging feature that can
>     be used on
>     > >all modes. I'm not a serious contester, but its contest support
>     seems
>     > >pretty good to me.
>     > >My own program K2Net provides a remote K2 front panel that can
>     be used
>     > >across the Internet. However it is not, and is never likely to,
>     do all the
>     > >things TRX Manager can, especially as I have somewhat lost
>     interest in
>     > >writing software for radio hams following the abuse I received
>     trying to
>     > >stick up for commercial software developers (see the blog on my
>     website if
>     > >you're interested.)
>     > >
>     > >Julian, G4ILO
>     > >G4ILO's Shack: http://www.tech-pro.net/g4ilo
>     > >
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Re: Favorite K2 Remote Program?

DYARNES
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In a message dated 4/28/2005 3:05:48 AM US Mountain Standard Time,  
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My own  program K2Net provides a remote K2 front panel that can be used
across the  Internet. However it is not, and is never likely to, do all the
things TRX  Manager can, especially as I have somewhat lost interest in
writing  software for radio hams following the abuse I received trying to
stick up  for commercial software developers (see the blog on my website if
you're  interested.)



Julian,
 
Please don't consider differing opinions to equate to "abuse".  You  write
great software, run an excellent website, and generally are a great  contributor
to the hobby.  But, unfortunately, not everything strong  contributors like
you say or do will be viewed as "gospel".  Nobody is  right all the time.  I
read, and enjoyed, the discussion on your  website.  Nothing I saw there seemed
like "abuse", only honest debate  (maybe I missed some comments that were a
bit too critical).  It's really a  complex issue, and bound to have conflicting
opinions.
 
Dave W7AQK
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