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Ken Kopp-3

Hi Mike,

When working split it would be nice to display your transmit frequency.

        While in SPLIT mode, I see the TX frequency (VFO B) displayed
        in the VFO B window, with a TX-labeled arrow pointing at B.

Say you have 21.295 for VFO A receiving K5D and VFO B at 21.305 for
transmit.  While I see the TX arrow on B it would be nice to see that
you
were actually transmitting on 305 on the main display.

        While in SPLIT mode where else -could- you be transmitting?
        Why would you need to be shown this information in a second
        place at the same time?

In split mode could it be possible to display the 2nd VFO frequency and
be
able to change the vfo with the sub/rit knob.  In split I can't recall
ever
needing to use the rit feature.

        You can change the VFO B frequency with the VFO B knob,
        either by turning the knob and reading the resulting change in
the
        VFO B window or by tapping A/B to swap the VFO's to put
        yourself on the frequency of the calling station.  I think this
is
        what you want to do.

        SUB is a button and RIT is a knob.  I don't follow what you're
        suggesting.  I agree, I've never had occasion to either RIT or
XIT
        in SPLIT ... or in any situation, for that matter ... but the
results of
        a change to either are displayed in the respective window if
either
        is enabled.  Actually, I -never- use either RIT or XIT, but
that's
        just a personal preference.

It would be nice to have immediate control over both vfo's if possible.

        You do ... by turning each VFO's knob.

        Heard you in a K5D pile-up today, BTW.  I operated from there
        in the mid-90's ... a miserable place, too. (:-)

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP


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Re: Feature request

Don Nesbitt
Having the actual transmit freq PROMINENTLY displayed when you transmit on
CW with the decoder working would be a nice confirmation that you are indeed
xmitting where you think you are (split or not) - just listen to the K5D
xmit freq - looks like lots of folks need lots of reminders of just where
they are xmitting!  Perhaps it's just a human condition!

What I'd REALLY like to see is the actual xmit freq displayed on the top
line (VFO A display line where the readout is a larger size).  Then if you
are split it would display VFO A freq (rx freq as it does normally) until
you hit xmit and then would display VFO B freq (where you are xmitting) on
that line - sort of flip-flop the data. When you quit xmitting, VFO A would
again be displayed as usual and - if the text decode is turned on - the VFO
B line would again display the decoded text. 'Course with QSK this could be
quite dazzling!

Of course there are lots of other scenarios where this extra little prodding
might be very useful - those are left as an exercise to the reader!
 
73 es gud dxing --Don N4HH K3/100 #83

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Subject: [Elecraft] Feature request


Hi Mike,

When working split it would be nice to display your transmit frequency.

        While in SPLIT mode, I see the TX frequency (VFO B) displayed
        in the VFO B window, with a TX-labeled arrow pointing at B.

Say you have 21.295 for VFO A receiving K5D and VFO B at 21.305 for
transmit.  While I see the TX arrow on B it would be nice to see that
you
were actually transmitting on 305 on the main display.

        While in SPLIT mode where else -could- you be transmitting?
        Why would you need to be shown this information in a second
        place at the same time?

In split mode could it be possible to display the 2nd VFO frequency and
be
able to change the vfo with the sub/rit knob.  In split I can't recall
ever
needing to use the rit feature.

        You can change the VFO B frequency with the VFO B knob,
        either by turning the knob and reading the resulting change in
the
        VFO B window or by tapping A/B to swap the VFO's to put
        yourself on the frequency of the calling station.  I think this
is
        what you want to do.

        SUB is a button and RIT is a knob.  I don't follow what you're
        suggesting.  I agree, I've never had occasion to either RIT or
XIT
        in SPLIT ... or in any situation, for that matter ... but the
results of
        a change to either are displayed in the respective window if
either
        is enabled.  Actually, I -never- use either RIT or XIT, but
that's
        just a personal preference.

It would be nice to have immediate control over both vfo's if possible.

        You do ... by turning each VFO's knob.

        Heard you in a K5D pile-up today, BTW.  I operated from there
        in the mid-90's ... a miserable place, too. (:-)

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP


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Re: Feature request

Bob Serwy
 I for one would not like this change.  I have this on my Icoms and never
liked it.


Bob Serwy - N9RS

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[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Don Nesbitt
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 4:11 PM
To: 'Ken Kopp'; [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Feature request

Having the actual transmit freq PROMINENTLY displayed when you transmit on
CW with the decoder working would be a nice confirmation that you are indeed
xmitting where you think you are (split or not) - just listen to the K5D
xmit freq - looks like lots of folks need lots of reminders of just where
they are xmitting!  Perhaps it's just a human condition!

What I'd REALLY like to see is the actual xmit freq displayed on the top
line (VFO A display line where the readout is a larger size).  Then if you
are split it would display VFO A freq (rx freq as it does normally) until
you hit xmit and then would display VFO B freq (where you are xmitting) on
that line - sort of flip-flop the data. When you quit xmitting, VFO A would
again be displayed as usual and - if the text decode is turned on - the VFO
B line would again display the decoded text. 'Course with QSK this could be
quite dazzling!

Of course there are lots of other scenarios where this extra little prodding
might be very useful - those are left as an exercise to the reader!
 
73 es gud dxing --Don N4HH K3/100 #83

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Ken Kopp
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 3:41 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [Elecraft] Feature request


Hi Mike,

When working split it would be nice to display your transmit frequency.

        While in SPLIT mode, I see the TX frequency (VFO B) displayed
        in the VFO B window, with a TX-labeled arrow pointing at B.

Say you have 21.295 for VFO A receiving K5D and VFO B at 21.305 for
transmit.  While I see the TX arrow on B it would be nice to see that you
were actually transmitting on 305 on the main display.

        While in SPLIT mode where else -could- you be transmitting?
        Why would you need to be shown this information in a second
        place at the same time?

In split mode could it be possible to display the 2nd VFO frequency and be
able to change the vfo with the sub/rit knob.  In split I can't recall ever
needing to use the rit feature.

        You can change the VFO B frequency with the VFO B knob,
        either by turning the knob and reading the resulting change in the
        VFO B window or by tapping A/B to swap the VFO's to put
        yourself on the frequency of the calling station.  I think this is
        what you want to do.

        SUB is a button and RIT is a knob.  I don't follow what you're
        suggesting.  I agree, I've never had occasion to either RIT or XIT
        in SPLIT ... or in any situation, for that matter ... but the
results of
        a change to either are displayed in the respective window if either
        is enabled.  Actually, I -never- use either RIT or XIT, but that's
        just a personal preference.

It would be nice to have immediate control over both vfo's if possible.

        You do ... by turning each VFO's knob.

        Heard you in a K5D pile-up today, BTW.  I operated from there
        in the mid-90's ... a miserable place, too. (:-)

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP


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Re: Feature request

rfenabled
I agree!!!!!
Gary
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Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 16:18:42
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 I for one would not like this change.  I have this on my Icoms and never
liked it.


Bob Serwy - N9RS

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Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 4:11 PM
To: 'Ken Kopp'; [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Feature request

Having the actual transmit freq PROMINENTLY displayed when you transmit on
CW with the decoder working would be a nice confirmation that you are indeed
xmitting where you think you are (split or not) - just listen to the K5D
xmit freq - looks like lots of folks need lots of reminders of just where
they are xmitting!  Perhaps it's just a human condition!

What I'd REALLY like to see is the actual xmit freq displayed on the top
line (VFO A display line where the readout is a larger size).  Then if you
are split it would display VFO A freq (rx freq as it does normally) until
you hit xmit and then would display VFO B freq (where you are xmitting) on
that line - sort of flip-flop the data. When you quit xmitting, VFO A would
again be displayed as usual and - if the text decode is turned on - the VFO
B line would again display the decoded text. 'Course with QSK this could be
quite dazzling!

Of course there are lots of other scenarios where this extra little prodding
might be very useful - those are left as an exercise to the reader!
 
73 es gud dxing --Don N4HH K3/100 #83

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[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Ken Kopp
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2009 3:41 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [Elecraft] Feature request


Hi Mike,

When working split it would be nice to display your transmit frequency.

        While in SPLIT mode, I see the TX frequency (VFO B) displayed
        in the VFO B window, with a TX-labeled arrow pointing at B.

Say you have 21.295 for VFO A receiving K5D and VFO B at 21.305 for
transmit.  While I see the TX arrow on B it would be nice to see that you
were actually transmitting on 305 on the main display.

        While in SPLIT mode where else -could- you be transmitting?
        Why would you need to be shown this information in a second
        place at the same time?

In split mode could it be possible to display the 2nd VFO frequency and be
able to change the vfo with the sub/rit knob.  In split I can't recall ever
needing to use the rit feature.

        You can change the VFO B frequency with the VFO B knob,
        either by turning the knob and reading the resulting change in the
        VFO B window or by tapping A/B to swap the VFO's to put
        yourself on the frequency of the calling station.  I think this is
        what you want to do.

        SUB is a button and RIT is a knob.  I don't follow what you're
        suggesting.  I agree, I've never had occasion to either RIT or XIT
        in SPLIT ... or in any situation, for that matter ... but the
results of
        a change to either are displayed in the respective window if either
        is enabled.  Actually, I -never- use either RIT or XIT, but that's
        just a personal preference.

It would be nice to have immediate control over both vfo's if possible.

        You do ... by turning each VFO's knob.

        Heard you in a K5D pile-up today, BTW.  I operated from there
        in the mid-90's ... a miserable place, too. (:-)

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP


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Re: Feature request

w0mu
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The key was that I was not seeing the VFO frequency on the display.  I guess
I need to hit the display key.

If I can tune both vfo's at the same time then life is grand.

Still learning the K3.  I'm not that old and I can learn new tricks.  A bit
of Yaesu unlearning is in process.

The reason for showing me where I am really transmitting is because you can
easily mess up and end up transmitting on A when you really meant B.  So
either you end up transmitting out of our band or you get an earful about up
up up lol.

The FT2000 had red and green lights that told you what was going on with
each vfo.  Red for transmit and green for receive.

Ken, you must have been down at KP5 with W0UN and KP2A?  Sounded like a
great place not to vacation.


"A slip of the foot you may soon recover, but a slip of the tongue you may
never get over." Ben Franklin
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Hi Mike,

When working split it would be nice to display your transmit frequency.

        While in SPLIT mode, I see the TX frequency (VFO B) displayed
        in the VFO B window, with a TX-labeled arrow pointing at B.

Say you have 21.295 for VFO A receiving K5D and VFO B at 21.305 for
transmit.  While I see the TX arrow on B it would be nice to see that you
were actually transmitting on 305 on the main display.

        While in SPLIT mode where else -could- you be transmitting?
        Why would you need to be shown this information in a second
        place at the same time?

In split mode could it be possible to display the 2nd VFO frequency and be
able to change the vfo with the sub/rit knob.  In split I can't recall ever
needing to use the rit feature.

        You can change the VFO B frequency with the VFO B knob,
        either by turning the knob and reading the resulting change in the
        VFO B window or by tapping A/B to swap the VFO's to put
        yourself on the frequency of the calling station.  I think this is
        what you want to do.

        SUB is a button and RIT is a knob.  I don't follow what you're
        suggesting.  I agree, I've never had occasion to either RIT or XIT
        in SPLIT ... or in any situation, for that matter ... but the
results of
        a change to either are displayed in the respective window if either
        is enabled.  Actually, I -never- use either RIT or XIT, but that's
        just a personal preference.

It would be nice to have immediate control over both vfo's if possible.

        You do ... by turning each VFO's knob.

        Heard you in a K5D pile-up today, BTW.  I operated from there
        in the mid-90's ... a miserable place, too. (:-)

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP


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Re: Feature request

Merv Schweigert
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> Having the actual transmit freq PROMINENTLY displayed when you transmit on
> CW with the decoder working would be a nice confirmation that you are indeed
> xmitting where you think you are (split or not) - just listen to the K5D
> xmit freq - looks like lots of folks need lots of reminders of just where
> they are xmitting!  Perhaps it's just a human condition!
>  
Not sure what the answer here is,  but I have been caught a couple times
now calling K5D on his freq,  and its the result of split dropping out when
a band change is made.   If I am trying to work him on one band and have
split set,  if I go to another band to check propagation and come back
split is off again.
Either I have a setting incorrect for split or there needs to be some change
in software to retain a band setting when jumping from band to band.
Please advise me if there is a setting to retain band freq and modes etc.
It could be operator dumb thumbs on this end.
Merv KH7C
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Re: Feature request

Don Wilhelm-4
Merv,

As the ads for a popular brand sauce mix say "its already in there".
Check your CONFIG menu setting for SPLIT SV.  When set to NO, the split
is lost when changing bands, but if set to YES, the settings for SPLIT,
RIT, and XIT are saved on a per-band basis.
Per-band means that the settings are retained for any one band - it does
not mean that the state is "sticky".  Set split ON for one band, and go
to another band and see that split is off - when you return to the first
band, it will still have split active if you have SPLIT SV set to ON.

73,
Don W3FPR

Merv Schweigert wrote:

>> Having the actual transmit freq PROMINENTLY displayed when you transmit on
>> CW with the decoder working would be a nice confirmation that you are indeed
>> xmitting where you think you are (split or not) - just listen to the K5D
>> xmit freq - looks like lots of folks need lots of reminders of just where
>> they are xmitting!  Perhaps it's just a human condition!
>>  
>>    
> Not sure what the answer here is,  but I have been caught a couple times
> now calling K5D on his freq,  and its the result of split dropping out when
> a band change is made.   If I am trying to work him on one band and have
> split set,  if I go to another band to check propagation and come back
> split is off again.
> Either I have a setting incorrect for split or there needs to be some change
> in software to retain a band setting when jumping from band to band.
> Please advise me if there is a setting to retain band freq and modes etc.
> It could be operator dumb thumbs on this end.
> Merv KH7C
>  
>
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