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For all those Elecrafters who have plunked down kilo-bucks for the first K4’s coming off the line (when—grin?), let’s all ask Elecraft to reward out good faith by providing free shipping on said K4’s. Certainly would be a nice gesture, not sure about it being a good business practice though (grin). Looking forward to receiving my K4, hopefully before my 76th birthday in September!! All the best to Elecraft in these trying times in getting a product to market. Getting ready to put my Flex 6600M up for sale (grin). Stay healthy and enjoy. 73, Joe W2KJ I QRP, therefore I am ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Free shipping is an interesting idea.
First of all, I don’t have a boat in this race, I don’t have one on order and I don’t see a K4 in my future. I see my Elecraft future as being portable, temporary setups when time (magically) appears in my future…. I _assumed_ that would happen when I (mostly) retired but it hasn’t yet - too many other interesting things that I’m still physically capable of doing - more serious radio will come later. I understand that folks paid serious money quite a while ago to get a spectacular radio and the combination of “typical” delays in getting such sophisticated gear through production and shipping has been seriously extended by parts availability. All that is incredibly frustrating - I spent a couple of YEARS being customer technical representative for a couple of $1M+ ship-mounted mapping sonars that never really worked “right.” It was a mess and I don’t expect Elecraft to go down that road but it puts me in the position of understanding both sides of the problem. From my perspective as an owner of a well configured but rarely (yet) used KX3, I think about priorities like this: #1 - I want this (all) high quality manufacturer(s) of equipment I own to continue to be in business (if/when I need support some day) #2 - I also want them to have the resources (money, time , staff, tools, etc.) to continue to innovate while continuing to support older gear as long as parts are available #3 - To achieve #1 and #2, they also need the resources to mange the business, personnel, finances, etc. in addition to the engineering effectively. #4 - when I purchase their product I want to feel like I got a good deal. Achieving all of those is tough. As I often remind myself: “Patience is a virtue, I’m gona get me some someday." -Dale <KB1ZKD> > On Jul 31, 2020, at 11:05 , Joseph Trombino, Jr <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Howdy Gang. > > For all those Elecrafters who have plunked down kilo-bucks for the first K4’s coming off the line (when—grin?), let’s all ask Elecraft to reward out good faith by providing free shipping on said K4’s. > > Certainly would be a nice gesture, not sure about it being a good business practice though (grin). > > Looking forward to receiving my K4, hopefully before my 76th birthday in September!! > > All the best to Elecraft in these trying times in getting a product to market. > > Getting ready to put my Flex 6600M up for sale (grin). > > Stay healthy and enjoy. > > 73, Joe W2KJ > I QRP, therefore I am > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Maybe but I have to imagine that the recent past has been rough and tough for Elecraft on many fronts.
I for one will be thrilled just to receive my K4 and happy to pay the list price and whatever is the market shipping rate. Paul W6PNG/M0SNA www.nomadic.blog > On Jul 31, 2020, at 8:05 AM, Joseph Trombino, Jr <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Howdy Gang. > > For all those Elecrafters who have plunked down kilo-bucks for the first K4’s coming off the line (when—grin?), let’s all ask Elecraft to reward out good faith by providing free shipping on said K4’s. > > Certainly would be a nice gesture, not sure about it being a good business practice though (grin). > > Looking forward to receiving my K4, hopefully before my 76th birthday in September!! > > All the best to Elecraft in these trying times in getting a product to market. > > Getting ready to put my Flex 6600M up for sale (grin). > > Stay healthy and enjoy. > > 73, Joe W2KJ > I QRP, therefore I am > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Free shipping is an interesting idea.
First of all, I don’t have a boat in this race, I don’t have one on order and I don’t see a K4 in my future. I see my Elecraft future as being portable, temporary setups when time (magically) appears in my future…. I _assumed_ that would happen when I (mostly) retired but it hasn’t yet - too many other interesting things that I’m still physically capable of doing - more serious radio will come later. I understand that folks paid serious money quite a while ago to get a spectacular radio and the combination of “typical” delays in getting such sophisticated gear through production and shipping has been seriously extended by parts availability. All that is incredibly frustrating - I spent a couple of YEARS being customer technical representative for a couple of $1M+ ship-mounted mapping sonars that never really worked “right.” It was a mess and I don’t expect Elecraft to go down that road but it puts me in the position of understanding both sides of the problem. From my perspective as an owner of a well configured but rarely (yet) used KX3, I think about priorities like this: #1 - I want this (all) high quality manufacturer(s) of equipment I own to continue to be in business (if/when I need support some day) #2 - I also want them to have the resources (money, time , staff, tools, etc.) to continue to innovate while continuing to support older gear as long as parts are available #3 - To achieve #1 and #2, they also need the resources to mange the business, personnel, finances, etc. in addition to the engineering effectively. #4 - when I purchase their product I want to feel like I got a good deal. Achieving all of those is tough. As I often remind myself: “Patience is a virtue, I’m gona get me some someday." -Dale <KB1ZKD> > On Jul 31, 2020, at 11:05 , Joseph Trombino, Jr <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Howdy Gang. > > For all those Elecrafters who have plunked down kilo-bucks for the first K4’s coming off the line (when—grin?), let’s all ask Elecraft to reward out good faith by providing free shipping on said K4’s. > > Certainly would be a nice gesture, not sure about it being a good business practice though (grin). > > Looking forward to receiving my K4, hopefully before my 76th birthday in September!! > > All the best to Elecraft in these trying times in getting a product to market. > > Getting ready to put my Flex 6600M up for sale (grin). > > Stay healthy and enjoy. > > 73, Joe W2KJ > I QRP, therefore I am > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Same here Paul. It is not their fault that COVID screwed their pooch. I
want them to stay in business. 73, Morgan NJ8M On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 10:54 AM Paul Gacek via Elecraft < [hidden email]> wrote: > Maybe but I have to imagine that the recent past has been rough and tough > for Elecraft on many fronts. > > I for one will be thrilled just to receive my K4 and happy to pay the list > price and whatever is the market shipping rate. > > Paul > W6PNG/M0SNA > www.nomadic.blog > > > > > On Jul 31, 2020, at 8:05 AM, Joseph Trombino, Jr <[hidden email]> > wrote: > > > > Howdy Gang. > > > > For all those Elecrafters who have plunked down kilo-bucks for the first > K4’s coming off the line (when—grin?), let’s all ask Elecraft to reward out > good faith by providing free shipping on said K4’s. > > > > Certainly would be a nice gesture, not sure about it being a good > business practice though (grin). > > > > Looking forward to receiving my K4, hopefully before my 76th birthday in > September!! > > > > All the best to Elecraft in these trying times in getting a product to > market. > > > > Getting ready to put my Flex 6600M up for sale (grin). > > > > Stay healthy and enjoy. > > > > 73, Joe W2KJ > > I QRP, therefore I am > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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My two cents. We all wish the best for Elecraft. It has been horrible for
them and all of us living with this cloud. Free shipping or whatever I don't really care at this point. What I find fault with is the lack of communication. How hard would it be to have a regular update on the progress of the K4 box and other products? Even if there is no new news just say so. I am sorry but the communication has been far less than desirable. When I look at the Elecraft "stories" the last update on the K4 was May of 2020. The last update on in the newsletter was July 2020 with virtually nothing on the K4. Please...as you can see from the emails...just tell us what is going on. 99.9% of us are very understanding. Richard *W7ZR* ex:5C5Z, CN2ZR, K2JSP, W6SBZ, W7KXR, K9ZIJ, W9KNF, W0KDF, W0MQU, J68ZR, KC6ZR, PJ4/W7ZR, KH2,W7ZR, KH6/W7ZR, V31ZR, VK4AAZ, XE2DV *Be joyful in hope, patient in affliction, faithful in prayer* On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 9:08 AM Morgan Bailey <[hidden email]> wrote: > Same here Paul. It is not their fault that COVID screwed their pooch. I > want them to stay in business. > > 73, > Morgan NJ8M > > > > On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 10:54 AM Paul Gacek via Elecraft < > [hidden email]> wrote: > > > Maybe but I have to imagine that the recent past has been rough and tough > > for Elecraft on many fronts. > > > > I for one will be thrilled just to receive my K4 and happy to pay the > list > > price and whatever is the market shipping rate. > > > > Paul > > W6PNG/M0SNA > > www.nomadic.blog > > > > > > > > > On Jul 31, 2020, at 8:05 AM, Joseph Trombino, Jr <[hidden email]> > > wrote: > > > > > > Howdy Gang. > > > > > > For all those Elecrafters who have plunked down kilo-bucks for the > first > > K4’s coming off the line (when—grin?), let’s all ask Elecraft to reward > out > > good faith by providing free shipping on said K4’s. > > > > > > Certainly would be a nice gesture, not sure about it being a good > > business practice though (grin). > > > > > > Looking forward to receiving my K4, hopefully before my 76th birthday > in > > September!! > > > > > > All the best to Elecraft in these trying times in getting a product to > > market. > > > > > > Getting ready to put my Flex 6600M up for sale (grin). > > > > > > Stay healthy and enjoy. > > > > > > 73, Joe W2KJ > > > I QRP, therefore I am > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > > Elecraft mailing list > > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to [hidden email] > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Totally agree.
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 11:55 AM, Paul Gacek via Elecraft<[hidden email]> wrote: Maybe but I have to imagine that the recent past has been rough and tough for Elecraft on many fronts. I for one will be thrilled just to receive my K4 and happy to pay the list price and whatever is the market shipping rate. Paul W6PNG/M0SNA www.nomadic.blog > On Jul 31, 2020, at 8:05 AM, Joseph Trombino, Jr <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Howdy Gang. > > For all those Elecrafters who have plunked down kilo-bucks for the first K4’s coming off the line (when—grin?), let’s all ask Elecraft to reward out good faith by providing free shipping on said K4’s. > > Certainly would be a nice gesture, not sure about it being a good business practice though (grin). > > Looking forward to receiving my K4, hopefully before my 76th birthday in September!! > > All the best to Elecraft in these trying times in getting a product to market. > > Getting ready to put my Flex 6600M up for sale (grin). > > Stay healthy and enjoy. > > 73, Joe W2KJ > I QRP, therefore I am > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Dear OMs and YLs,
May I say that I agree with Richard. Free shipping while nice is not my concern but it would be reassuring for Elecraft to keep the many of us with large deposits better notified as to progress and delays. As I am in the EU, my shipment date will be longer by months than those of you in W land. We must have CE approval for shipment; this is essentially a EU wide check for safety purposes not too dissimilar to UL approval but perhaps more wide ranging. How much longer CE approval will take we have never been told that I can remember. My money stays with Elecraft. I am an Elecraft supporter and owner of many Elecraft products. When this K4 becomes available I may well order a second K4 plus second KPA 1500. It would sure be nice though to get a monthly update. It would also be interesting to have a more detailed specification sheet though I suppose this is being left to other labs to produce. Elecraft must though have these numbers. Maybe the good people in California want to make a big bang when the K4 does ship by blowing competition away. I am not about to ask for a refund of my deposit but I do pray that Elecraft is not another casualty of the Covid 19 virus. There is enough suffering and much more to come in commercial life. There are good people in the mother ship. 73 Doug EI2CN -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Richard Zalewski Sent: Friday 31 July 2020 16:26 To: Morgan Bailey <[hidden email]> Cc: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Free shipping My two cents. We all wish the best for Elecraft. It has been horrible for them and all of us living with this cloud. Free shipping or whatever I don't really care at this point. What I find fault with is the lack of communication. How hard would it be to have a regular update on the progress of the K4 box and other products? Even if there is no new news just say so. I am sorry but the communication has been far less than desirable. When I look at the Elecraft "stories" the last update on the K4 was May of 2020. The last update on in the newsletter was July 2020 with virtually nothing on the K4. Please...as you can see from the emails...just tell us what is going on. 99.9% of us are very understanding. Richard *W7ZR* ex:5C5Z, CN2ZR, K2JSP, W6SBZ, W7KXR, K9ZIJ, W9KNF, W0KDF, W0MQU, J68ZR, KC6ZR, PJ4/W7ZR, KH2,W7ZR, KH6/W7ZR, V31ZR, VK4AAZ, XE2DV *Be joyful in hope, patient in affliction, faithful in prayer* On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 9:08 AM Morgan Bailey <[hidden email]> wrote: > Same here Paul. It is not their fault that COVID screwed their pooch. > I want them to stay in business. > > 73, > Morgan NJ8M > > > > On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 10:54 AM Paul Gacek via Elecraft < > [hidden email]> wrote: > > > Maybe but I have to imagine that the recent past has been rough and > > tough for Elecraft on many fronts. > > > > I for one will be thrilled just to receive my K4 and happy to pay > > the > list > > price and whatever is the market shipping rate. > > > > Paul > > W6PNG/M0SNA > > www.nomadic.blog > > > > > > > > > On Jul 31, 2020, at 8:05 AM, Joseph Trombino, Jr > > > <[hidden email]> > > wrote: > > > > > > Howdy Gang. > > > > > > For all those Elecrafters who have plunked down kilo-bucks for the > first > > K4’s coming off the line (when—grin?), let’s all ask Elecraft to > > reward > out > > good faith by providing free shipping on said K4’s. > > > > > > Certainly would be a nice gesture, not sure about it being a good > > business practice though (grin). > > > > > > Looking forward to receiving my K4, hopefully before my 76th > > > birthday > in > > September!! > > > > > > All the best to Elecraft in these trying times in getting a > > > product to > > market. > > > > > > Getting ready to put my Flex 6600M up for sale (grin). > > > > > > Stay healthy and enjoy. > > > > > > 73, Joe W2KJ > > > I QRP, therefore I am > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > > Elecraft mailing list > > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this > > > email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > > > [hidden email] > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this > > email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > > [hidden email] > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > [hidden email] Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Richard:
> On Jul 31, 2020, at 12:25 PM, Richard Zalewski <[hidden email]> wrote: > > My two cents. We all wish the best for Elecraft. It has been horrible for > them and all of us living with this cloud. Free shipping or whatever I > don't really care at this point. What I find fault with is the lack of > communication. How hard would it be to have a regular update on the > progress of the K4 box and other products? Even if there is no new news > just say so. I am sorry but the communication has been far less than > desirable. While I feel your pain, i don’t believe the "lack of communication” is the ‘problem’. The ‘problem’ is that Elecraft is not in position to provide their customer base with updates that will meet customer expectations regarding “when will Elecraft start shipping product?” The moment that they make a public announcement, their feet will be held to the fire, both by their anxious-to-receive customers and themselves. So as Elecraft continues to work hard to get their product released, it doesn’t make sense for them to put out a public statement each week stating “We don’t know yet when we’ll be shipping”. Such an effort to ‘improve Communication’ will simply further frustrate everyone > When I look at the Elecraft "stories" the last update on the K4 > was May of 2020. The last update on in the newsletter was July 2020 with > virtually nothing on the K4. Please...as you can see from the > emails...just tell us what is going on. 99.9% of us are very understanding. With all due respect, ‘understanding’ has its limits because we all want our stuff ’now’. And if they make an announcement and then modify it, what do you think the reaction will be? More frustration and angst. While customers are anxious to get what they ordered, Elecraft’s future is totally dependent upon releasing a quality product as soon as they are able to do so because of the significant investment they’ve made over the past couple of years to create the K4 and they need to gain revenue from the investment to maintain their future. I don’t know their financial position, but I consider them to be a ’small business’ which means they don’t have unlimited resources. Customers are anxious for a product; Elecraft is anxious to maintain a business, support their employees, and maintain their reputation for quality products that exceed customer expectations. Who’s neck is more on the line with each passing day; the customer or Elecraft? So give them a break. The K4 will be released as soon as Elecraft believes that all of the ‘ducks’ (logistics, documentation, manufacturing, customer support, etc.) are lined up and ready to roll so that when their new product is delivered, it will more than meet everyone’s expectations. FWIW, I’m also a Flex customer and their reputation has been sadly soiled by the design/production issues they’ve had over the years. I ordered a Flex-6700 in 2012 when it was announced and received it in November 2013. However, SmartSDR was woefully inadequate and it wasn’t until May 2017 when version 2.0 was released that the software allowed the radio to do what they claimed would be possible (e.g. remote operation). In February 2018 I ordered the PGXL amplifier with accompanying tuner. I received the PGXL in May 2018 but I’m still waiting for the tuner, making the PGXL “useless” for me to use with a EFHW that requires a tuner. In the meantime, I purchased a K3-KPA500-KAT500 with the Remote Rig/K3-I0 combo in August 2014 so that I could operate remotely as it was clear Flex was years behind in software development. Today, I use both Flex and Elecraft, but the ability to use an amplifier on all bands is only with the Elecraft. Lesson learned: Technology is really difficult to translate into quality products and that some companies have a better knack for translating a vision into a viable product than others. I enjoy the Flex system, but it has been a slow, painful process for software development and product to get to the point to where the product meets stated capabilities. FWIW, Barry Baines, WD4ASW (Currently in Folkston, GA) > > Richard > *W7ZR* ex:5C5Z, CN2ZR, K2JSP, W6SBZ, W7KXR, K9ZIJ, W9KNF, W0KDF, W0MQU, > J68ZR, KC6ZR, PJ4/W7ZR, KH2,W7ZR, KH6/W7ZR, V31ZR, VK4AAZ, XE2DV > > > *Be joyful in hope, patient in affliction, faithful in prayer* > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I bought mine at Dayton about an hour or so after the opening over a year ago and (I thought) That free shipping was included at the Fest. I've been wrong before but can't wait to get mine. Anything worth having is worth waiting for as I have been told. This might be just a tad later than I expected but the testers have had plenty of time to get most of the bugs out of it.
Cheers! Ed.. AB4IQ -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Dale Chayes Sent: Friday, July 31, 2020 10:53 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Free shipping Free shipping is an interesting idea. First of all, I don’t have a boat in this race, I don’t have one on order and I don’t see a K4 in my future. I see my Elecraft future as being portable, temporary setups when time (magically) appears in my future…. I _assumed_ that would happen when I (mostly) retired but it hasn’t yet - too many other interesting things that I’m still physically capable of doing - more serious radio will come later. I understand that folks paid serious money quite a while ago to get a spectacular radio and the combination of “typical” delays in getting such sophisticated gear through production and shipping has been seriously extended by parts availability. All that is incredibly frustrating - I spent a couple of YEARS being customer technical representative for a couple of $1M+ ship-mounted mapping sonars that never really worked “right.” It was a mess and I don’t expect Elecraft to go down that road but it puts me in the position of understanding both sides of the problem. From my perspective as an owner of a well configured but rarely (yet) used KX3, I think about priorities like this: #1 - I want this (all) high quality manufacturer(s) of equipment I own to continue to be in business (if/when I need support some day) #2 - I also want them to have the resources (money, time , staff, tools, etc.) to continue to innovate while continuing to support older gear as long as parts are available #3 - To achieve #1 and #2, they also need the resources to mange the business, personnel, finances, etc. in addition to the engineering effectively. #4 - when I purchase their product I want to feel like I got a good deal. Achieving all of those is tough. As I often remind myself: “Patience is a virtue, I’m gona get me some someday." -Dale <KB1ZKD> > On Jul 31, 2020, at 11:05 , Joseph Trombino, Jr <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Howdy Gang. > > For all those Elecrafters who have plunked down kilo-bucks for the first K4’s coming off the line (when—grin?), let’s all ask Elecraft to reward out good faith by providing free shipping on said K4’s. > > Certainly would be a nice gesture, not sure about it being a good business practice though (grin). > > Looking forward to receiving my K4, hopefully before my 76th birthday in September!! > > All the best to Elecraft in these trying times in getting a product to market. > > Getting ready to put my Flex 6600M up for sale (grin). > > Stay healthy and enjoy. > > 73, Joe W2KJ > I QRP, therefore I am > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Elecraft is a small, tightly-run company, who suffered the misfortune of
discontinuing their flagship K3S just before a global pandemic struck and as they were trying to get a radically new worldbeater, the K4, out the door. They, like other responsible California companies, have put the health of their employees first. Those of us who remember the rollout of the K3 are familiar with the get-there-itis. One of my ham friends wanted a weekly update of where he was in the shipping queue. Those of us who paid for our KPA1500s a year before shipment remember the incredulousness of some who thought an interest-free loan for vaporware made us fools. Who could have anticipated that six months into the pandemic we would still be right back where we started due to apalling inaction from our country's leaders. I will wait patiently for my K4, and I expect to pay full shipping for it. In the meantime, my K-line is on the air nearly every day, giving me the same joy it has for well over a decade. Though my eyesight is fading with age, by now I know where all the K3 buttons are even in the dark. Sometimes I operate my K2, or K1, or KX1, and relive the excitement of building them. I hope all the Elecraft employees stay healthy, and Elecraft as a company stays healthy, too. I really look forward to operating my KX's out in the sunshine again with my buddies. The K4 will ship when it is ready. Stay calm, wash your hands, and wear a mask! 73 Eric WD6DBM On Fri, Jul 31, 2020, 8:05 AM Joseph Trombino, Jr <[hidden email]> wrote: > Howdy Gang. > > For all those Elecrafters who have plunked down kilo-bucks for the first > K4’s coming off the line (when—grin?), let’s all ask Elecraft to reward out > good faith by providing free shipping on said K4’s. > > Certainly would be a nice gesture, not sure about it being a good business > practice though (grin). > > Looking forward to receiving my K4, hopefully before my 76th birthday in > September!! > > All the best to Elecraft in these trying times in getting a product to > market. > > Getting ready to put my Flex 6600M up for sale (grin). > > Stay healthy and enjoy. > > 73, Joe W2KJ > I QRP, therefore I am > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Eric spelled it out nicely. I say quit crabbing. I doubt that anyone on this list
is "Radioless". Elecraft will get our new radios here as soon as they can do so. Any who are ahead of me that want to quit please do so get your money back so I move closer to the start of the shipping. My K4HD will be here when it gets here. In the meantime the K3S is in place and the K3 is the backup. John k9uwa On 31 Jul 2020 at 12:27, Eric Norris wrote: BIG SNIP > > The K4 will ship when it is ready. Stay calm, wash your hands, and wear a > mask! > > 73 Eric WD6DBM John Goller, K9UWA & Jean Goller, N9PXF Antique Radio Restorations [hidden email] Visit our Web Site at: http://www.JohnJeanAntiqueRadio.com 4836 Ranch Road Leo, IN 46765 USA 1-260-637-6426 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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