On 6/17/2020 1:44 PM, Josh Fiden wrote:
> Also nice to have an amp you can run from 120v if needed. Yes. The KPA500 and KAT500 see a lot of use for 7QP and CQP expeditions, and for 6M grid expeditions. 73, Jim K9YC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
My whole home station runs on one 120VAC 20A circuit.
https://www.qrz.com/db/N7WS for stats. Wes N7WS On 6/17/2020 1:58 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > On 6/17/2020 1:44 PM, Josh Fiden wrote: >> Also nice to have an amp you can run from 120v if needed. > > Yes. The KPA500 and KAT500 see a lot of use for 7QP and CQP expeditions, and > for 6M grid expeditions. > > 73, Jim K9YC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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We plan to keep selling and supporting both the KPA500 and KAT500 - Sales remain strong for both. They are also compatible with the K4 and most other HF radios. :-) 73, Eric elecraft.com _..._ > On Jun 16, 2020, at 9:50 PM, Don Putnick <[hidden email]> wrote: > > With the sunset of the K3S, what are the plans for the future of the KPA500 > and KAT500? Enquiring minds want to know. > 73 Don NA6Z > ______________________________________________________________ > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Isn't there some sort of "jumper" or ???, that will increase the gain to something other than the ridiculous and prohibitive +13 dB figure, for "international" (wink-wink) sales, sorta like the "MARS" mod in almost all radios these days?
99.9% of the chicken band users today are happy with their 5 watt radios. However, that restrictive and useless +13 gain law does NOTHING to stop the REALLY big guns on 27.025 who typically run amps using tubes that have HANDLES on them! (I've personally seen channel 6 mobile set-ups running power in excess of 25 kilowatts.) 73, Charlie k3ICH -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Nr4c Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 3:14 PM To: Paul Gacek <[hidden email]> Cc: Don Putnick <[hidden email]>; Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500 The KAT500 has three antenna out ports. It only needs one In so the KPA500 needs only one out port. As for the 10 W in and 500 out idea. That is prohibited by law. They’re only allowed to sell an amp with max gain of 13dB. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
NX1P created a modification that is legal for an individual Ham to do
at your own risk. It is more complicated than just a jumper. This is the only site I could find it at: https://docplayer.net/22608412-Kpa-500-modifications.html 73, Mark W7MLG On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 8:34 AM Charlie T <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Isn't there some sort of "jumper" or ???, that will increase the gain to something other than the ridiculous and prohibitive +13 dB figure, for "international" (wink-wink) sales, sorta like the "MARS" mod in almost all radios these days? > > 99.9% of the chicken band users today are happy with their 5 watt radios. > However, that restrictive and useless +13 gain law does NOTHING to stop the REALLY big guns on 27.025 who typically run amps using tubes that have HANDLES on them! > (I've personally seen channel 6 mobile set-ups running power in excess of 25 kilowatts.) > > 73, Charlie k3ICH > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Nr4c > Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 3:14 PM > To: Paul Gacek <[hidden email]> > Cc: Don Putnick <[hidden email]>; Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500 > > The KAT500 has three antenna out ports. It only needs one In so the KPA500 needs only one out port. > > As for the 10 W in and 500 out idea. That is prohibited by law. They’re only allowed to sell an amp with max gain of 13dB. > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Paula Keezer NX1P modified a KPA500 to allow it to be driven to about 500
watts by a KX3. She published it - but I can not find it on the web. The mod increased the gain by less than 3 db (seems I recall 2.something). You would need the 12 to 15 watts to drive it to about 500 watts. The modification involved removing the input pad and modifying the feed back loop to the microprocessor. I thought about doing the mod to be able to run a net with my KX3 if my K3 quit. I have a KXPA and decided not to do the modification. I can just remove my KX3 & KXPA from my truck if I ever need a backup to drive the KPA500. Probably 10 minutes work and find the bag of portable cables. BTW - Ms. Keezer's modification was very detailed and she had many cautions regarding doing the modification. It defiantly was not a matter of "cutting a jumper" to remove the input pad. You need remove the pad parts and change the number of turns in a transformer. Defiantly would void the warranty and make factory repairs iffy depending on Elecraft's policies. Other manufacturers I have worked with would restore the amp to factory while repairing it. As a ham you are not limited to the 15 db gain restriction - the manufacturer is but not you. 73 George AI4VZ -----Original Message----- From: Charlie T Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 9:06 AM To: 'Nr4c' Cc: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500 Isn't there some sort of "jumper" or ???, that will increase the gain to something other than the ridiculous and prohibitive +13 dB figure, for "international" (wink-wink) sales, sorta like the "MARS" mod in almost all radios these days? 99.9% of the chicken band users today are happy with their 5 watt radios. However, that restrictive and useless +13 gain law does NOTHING to stop the REALLY big guns on 27.025 who typically run amps using tubes that have HANDLES on them! (I've personally seen channel 6 mobile set-ups running power in excess of 25 kilowatts.) 73, Charlie k3ICH -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Nr4c Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 3:14 PM To: Paul Gacek <[hidden email]> Cc: Don Putnick <[hidden email]>; Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500 The KAT500 has three antenna out ports. It only needs one In so the KPA500 needs only one out port. As for the 10 W in and 500 out idea. That is prohibited by law. They’re only allowed to sell an amp with max gain of 13dB. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
I own a KPA500 and KAT500. Both work very well with my Icom IC-7610 but
operation could be improved if they could communicate with the Icom CI-V bus. I do not own a KPA1500 but from my research I see it can communicate directly with the Icom CI-V bus to switch the amp AND the internal tuner/antenna selector when connected to an Icom rig without any RF being transmitted. The KPA500 and KAT500 have no such CI-V capability. The Icom band data connection on the amp works but does not address the WARC bands. There is no provision at all to communicate with the KAT500 so it must RF sense to switch bands and select the correct antenna. While this works well when transmitting it is of no value when you are just listening or scanning. The KAT500 will remain on the last band and antenna where RF was present. For example, my KAT500 has a 75M dipole on ANT 1 and a 40M-10M fan dipole on ANT 2. If I am listening on 75M and then switch bands to 20M the KPA500 will switch bands using the band data cable I built (but not on the WARC bands...) but the KAT500 remains on ANT 1 and tuned for the 75M frequency. Of course, this seriously attenuates the 20M signals. I would like to see a plug-in product that connects to the IC-7610 (or other Icom), the KPA500, and the KAT500 that reads the Icom CI-V bus commands and sets BOTH the KPA500 and KAT500 to the correct band without transmitting, and in the case of the KAT500, also selects the proper antenna for the frequency. Since the KAT500 antenna is assigned per band in the KAT500 programming I believe the KAT500 would only need to know the frequency then it would select the proper antenna from its internal memory. If such an Icom CI-V plug-in device already exists that addresses BOTH the KPA500 and KAT500 issues outlined above please direct me to the product(s). Thanks & 73, Ken WA2LBI On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 12:29 PM Gmail - George <[hidden email]> wrote: > Paula Keezer NX1P modified a KPA500 to allow it to be driven to about 500 > watts by a KX3. > She published it - but I can not find it on the web. > The mod increased the gain by less than 3 db (seems I recall 2.something). > You would need the 12 to 15 watts to drive it to about 500 watts. > > The modification involved removing the input pad and modifying the feed > back > loop to the microprocessor. > I thought about doing the mod to be able to run a net with my KX3 if my K3 > quit. > I have a KXPA and decided not to do the modification. > I can just remove my KX3 & KXPA from my truck if I ever need a backup to > drive the KPA500. Probably 10 minutes work and find the bag of portable > cables. > > BTW - Ms. Keezer's modification was very detailed and she had many > cautions > regarding doing the modification. > It defiantly was not a matter of "cutting a jumper" to remove the input > pad. > You need remove the pad parts and change the number of turns in a > transformer. > > Defiantly would void the warranty and make factory repairs iffy depending > on > Elecraft's policies. > Other manufacturers I have worked with would restore the amp to factory > while repairing it. > > As a ham you are not limited to the 15 db gain restriction - the > manufacturer is but not you. > > 73 > George AI4VZ > > -----Original Message----- > From: Charlie T > Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 9:06 AM > To: 'Nr4c' > Cc: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500 > > Isn't there some sort of "jumper" or ???, that will increase the gain to > something other than the ridiculous and prohibitive +13 dB figure, for > "international" (wink-wink) sales, sorta like the "MARS" mod in almost all > radios these days? > > 99.9% of the chicken band users today are happy with their 5 watt radios. > However, that restrictive and useless +13 gain law does NOTHING to stop > the > REALLY big guns on 27.025 who typically run amps using tubes that have > HANDLES on them! > (I've personally seen channel 6 mobile set-ups running power in excess of > 25 > kilowatts.) > > 73, Charlie k3ICH > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> > On > Behalf Of Nr4c > Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 3:14 PM > To: Paul Gacek <[hidden email]> > Cc: Don Putnick <[hidden email]>; Elecraft Reflector > <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500 > > The KAT500 has three antenna out ports. It only needs one In so the KPA500 > needs only one out port. > > As for the 10 W in and 500 out idea. That is prohibited by law. They’re > only allowed to sell an amp with max gain of 13dB. > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Why would you modify your KPA500 and risk warranty, repair, and clean signals for a mere 1/2 S-Unit at best?
> On Jun 18, 2020, at 9:27 AM, Gmail - George <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Paula Keezer NX1P modified a KPA500 to allow it to be driven to about 500 > watts by a KX3. > She published it - but I can not find it on the web. > The mod increased the gain by less than 3 db (seems I recall 2.something). > You would need the 12 to 15 watts to drive it to about 500 watts. > > The modification involved removing the input pad and modifying the feed back > loop to the microprocessor. > I thought about doing the mod to be able to run a net with my KX3 if my K3 > quit. > I have a KXPA and decided not to do the modification. > I can just remove my KX3 & KXPA from my truck if I ever need a backup to > drive the KPA500. Probably 10 minutes work and find the bag of portable > cables. > > BTW - Ms. Keezer's modification was very detailed and she had many cautions > regarding doing the modification. > It defiantly was not a matter of "cutting a jumper" to remove the input pad. > You need remove the pad parts and change the number of turns in a > transformer. > > Defiantly would void the warranty and make factory repairs iffy depending on > Elecraft's policies. > Other manufacturers I have worked with would restore the amp to factory > while repairing it. > > As a ham you are not limited to the 15 db gain restriction - the > manufacturer is but not you. > > 73 > George AI4VZ > > -----Original Message----- > From: Charlie T > Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 9:06 AM > To: 'Nr4c' > Cc: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500 > > Isn't there some sort of "jumper" or ???, that will increase the gain to > something other than the ridiculous and prohibitive +13 dB figure, for > "international" (wink-wink) sales, sorta like the "MARS" mod in almost all > radios these days? > > 99.9% of the chicken band users today are happy with their 5 watt radios. > However, that restrictive and useless +13 gain law does NOTHING to stop the > REALLY big guns on 27.025 who typically run amps using tubes that have > HANDLES on them! > (I've personally seen channel 6 mobile set-ups running power in excess of 25 > kilowatts.) > > 73, Charlie k3ICH > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> On > Behalf Of Nr4c > Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 3:14 PM > To: Paul Gacek <[hidden email]> > Cc: Don Putnick <[hidden email]>; Elecraft Reflector > <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500 > > The KAT500 has three antenna out ports. It only needs one In so the KPA500 > needs only one out port. > > As for the 10 W in and 500 out idea. That is prohibited by law. They’re > only allowed to sell an amp with max gain of 13dB. > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
The mod applies to the ability to increase the sensitivity (gain) of the
amp by bypassing the input attenuator so that it can be driven to a useful power output with a lower power exciter. There isn't any suggestion that the amp should be driven beyond its normal power level. Hence unless the exciter was dirty, clean signals is not part of the equation. Regards, Mike VP8NO 18/06/2020 14:25, Phil Hystad via Elecraft wrote: > Why would you modify your KPA500 and risk warranty, repair, and clean signals for a mere 1/2 S-Unit at best? > > > >> On Jun 18, 2020, at 9:27 AM, Gmail - George <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> Paula Keezer NX1P modified a KPA500 to allow it to be driven to about 500 >> watts by a KX3. >> She published it - but I can not find it on the web. >> The mod increased the gain by less than 3 db (seems I recall 2.something). >> You would need the 12 to 15 watts to drive it to about 500 watts. Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Before the KPA1500 was released, I ran two KPA500s in parallel. On the high bands, a K3 would not drive both amps to 500 watts. The NX1P mod enabled a full 1000 W out on all bands.
Ken K6MR From: Phil Hystad via Elecraft<mailto:[hidden email]> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 10:28 To: Gmail - George<mailto:[hidden email]> Cc: [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500 Why would you modify your KPA500 and risk warranty, repair, and clean signals for a mere 1/2 S-Unit at best? > On Jun 18, 2020, at 9:27 AM, Gmail - George <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Paula Keezer NX1P modified a KPA500 to allow it to be driven to about 500 > watts by a KX3. > She published it - but I can not find it on the web. > The mod increased the gain by less than 3 db (seems I recall 2.something). > You would need the 12 to 15 watts to drive it to about 500 watts. > > The modification involved removing the input pad and modifying the feed back > loop to the microprocessor. > I thought about doing the mod to be able to run a net with my KX3 if my K3 > quit. > I have a KXPA and decided not to do the modification. > I can just remove my KX3 & KXPA from my truck if I ever need a backup to > drive the KPA500. Probably 10 minutes work and find the bag of portable > cables. > > BTW - Ms. Keezer's modification was very detailed and she had many cautions > regarding doing the modification. > It defiantly was not a matter of "cutting a jumper" to remove the input pad. > You need remove the pad parts and change the number of turns in a > transformer. > > Defiantly would void the warranty and make factory repairs iffy depending on > Elecraft's policies. > Other manufacturers I have worked with would restore the amp to factory > while repairing it. > > As a ham you are not limited to the 15 db gain restriction - the > manufacturer is but not you. > > 73 > George AI4VZ > > -----Original Message----- > From: Charlie T > Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 9:06 AM > To: 'Nr4c' > Cc: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500 > > Isn't there some sort of "jumper" or ???, that will increase the gain to > something other than the ridiculous and prohibitive +13 dB figure, for > "international" (wink-wink) sales, sorta like the "MARS" mod in almost all > radios these days? > > 99.9% of the chicken band users today are happy with their 5 watt radios. > However, that restrictive and useless +13 gain law does NOTHING to stop the > REALLY big guns on 27.025 who typically run amps using tubes that have > HANDLES on them! > (I've personally seen channel 6 mobile set-ups running power in excess of 25 > kilowatts.) > > 73, Charlie k3ICH > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> On > Behalf Of Nr4c > Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 3:14 PM > To: Paul Gacek <[hidden email]> > Cc: Don Putnick <[hidden email]>; Elecraft Reflector > <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500 > > The KAT500 has three antenna out ports. It only needs one In so the KPA500 > needs only one out port. > > As for the 10 W in and 500 out idea. That is prohibited by law. They’re > only allowed to sell an amp with max gain of 13dB. > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Hi Ken,
All it takes to band switch both amp and tuner is a dit or a tap on the mic. 73, Jim K9YC On 6/18/2020 10:23 AM, Ken Winterling wrote: > There is no provision at all to communicate with the KAT500 so it > must RF sense to switch bands and select the correct antenna. While this > works well when transmitting it is of no value when you are just listening > or scanning. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
I've had the amp and tuner for more than two years so I know about their RF
sensing. It works well when I'm changing bands with the intent of transmitting. However, as I said, that does not work when I am changing bands on the rig to listen to different bands or scanning different bands. If I am on 75M and want to check the conditions on 20M I can't simply select 20M or a 20M memory and listen. I have to transmit so the KT500 will select the correct antenna. If I'm not on a memorized frequency in a KAT500 "bin" it will start tuning, taking up even more time. I'm looking for a solution that presets the KPA500 band, the KAT500 band, and the KAT500 antenna without transmitting. I believe an Elecraft transceiver connected to the KPA500 and KAT500 can do that. Ken WA2LBI On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 2:22 PM Jim Brown <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi Ken, > > All it takes to band switch both amp and tuner is a dit or a tap on the > mic. > > 73, Jim K9YC > > On 6/18/2020 10:23 AM, Ken Winterling wrote: > > There is no provision at all to communicate with the KAT500 so it > > must RF sense to switch bands and select the correct antenna. While this > > works well when transmitting it is of no value when you are just > listening > > or scanning. > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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The KAT500 only has three outputs which for me is insufficient and I
do not even operate WARC bands. For the last couple of decades I have used a Top Ten band decoder to switch antenna relay boxes. This worked perfectly with my Yaesu line and now with my Elecraft K3S's. You did not mention your radio type in this post but if it has a band output you could do the same and always be on the correct antenna. John KK9A Ken wa2lbi wrote: I've had the amp and tuner for more than two years so I know about their RF sensing. It works well when I'm changing bands with the intent of transmitting. However, as I said, that does not work when I am changing bands on the rig to listen to different bands or scanning different bands. If I am on 75M and want to check the conditions on 20M I can't simply select 20M or a 20M memory and listen. I have to transmit so the KT500 will select the correct antenna. If I'm not on a memorized frequency in a KAT500 "bin" it will start tuning, taking up even more time. I'm looking for a solution that presets the KPA500 band, the KAT500 band, and the KAT500 antenna without transmitting. I believe an Elecraft transceiver connected to the KPA500 and KAT500 can do that. Ken WA2LBI ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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John,
The radio, an IC-7610, and the fact that I use a HB band data cable to the KPA500, was included in my original post. The band data cable switches the bands on the amp, except for WARC, but there is no communication to the KAT500 so it remains on the last band/frequency and antenna selected at the last application of RF. The problem is that if I am just listening and select another band the KAT500 will not move to the correct band and antenna. This is not a problem if I intend to operate on the new band but it is particularly inconvenient when simply switching between radio memories to check for activity on stored frequencies which could be on any band/antenna. It also affects memory scanning for the same reason. After a band change the KAT500 is not on the correct band and antenna so the received signal is greatly attenuated. Elecraft transceivers "talk" to both the KPA500 and the KAT500 and keep them updated with frequency changes so the KAT500 selects the proper tuning and antenna for the frequency selected on the rig without transmitting. I'm looking for a solution that mimics Elececraft's operation. An Arduino project has been suggested to me and I might need to learn to program one to read Icom CI-V data and communicate with both the KPA500 and KAT500 if I can't find any other solution. Apparently I'm in a very small minority that would find this feature useful. As for using a Top Ten band decoder, or any other decoder, to switch the antenna system external to the KAT500 would not help with the KAT500 issues of remaining on the last RF-selected band and antenna. Simply changing the antenna external to the KAT500 does not help with the KAT500 still being tuned to the wrong band and antenna and attenuating the received signal. *Ken * *WA2LBI * *LG G6 * ------ Original message------ *From: *[hidden email] *Date: *Fri, Jun 19, 2020 09:55 *To: *[hidden email]; *Cc: * *Subject:*Re: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500 The KAT500 only has three outputs which for me is insufficient and I do not even operate WARC bands. For the last couple of decades I have used a Top Ten band decoder to switch antenna relay boxes. This worked perfectly with my Yaesu line and now with my Elecraft K3S's. You did not mention your radio type in this post but if it has a band output you could do the same and always be on the correct antenna. John KK9A Ken wa2lbi wrote: I've had the amp and tuner for more than two years so I know about their RF sensing. It works well when I'm changing bands with the intent of transmitting. However, as I said, that does not work when I am changing bands on the rig to listen to different bands or scanning different bands. If I am on 75M and want to check the conditions on 20M I can't simply select 20M or a 20M memory and listen. I have to transmit so the KT500 will select the correct antenna. If I'm not on a memorized frequency in a KAT500 "bin" it will start tuning, taking up even more time. I'm looking for a solution that presets the KPA500 band, the KAT500 band, and the KAT500 antenna without transmitting. I believe an Elecraft transceiver connected to the KPA500 and KAT500 can do that. Ken WA2LBI ______________________________________________________________Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Ken,
Can’t you simply press a couple of buttons on the KPA500 and the KAT500 to listen on a different band? No RF required. No tune required. 73, Dave N8AG Sent from Mail for Windows 10 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Dave,
Do you own either/both the KPA500 or KAT500 and are familiar with their operation? The KPA500 is not involved in the receive path, it is only used for transmitting, so it doesn't cause an issue on receive. When in standby the amp is bypassed and the T/R circuit feeds the input to the output. That output is connected to the KAT500 input. My antenna system, for various bands, is connected to the three outputs. Yes, if I just want to monitor a number of bands/frequencies I can press the KAT500 mode button repeatedly until the unit is in BYPass so that it won't attenuate receive signals. Unless the KAT500 is bypassed the last tuning solution will be applied regardless of band or frequency selected on the rig. Then, for each frequency I want to monitor, I can then press the ANT button on the KAT500 repeatedly until the correct antenna for the desired frequency is selected. Depending on the memory or VFO band/frequency selected it may be necessary to do this repeatedly. This will not work at all in the case of scanning. When done listening on various bands/frequencies and I want to return to transmitting I have to press the KAT500 mode button repeatedly until the unit is in MANual. Then press the ANT button on the KAT500 repeatedly until the correct antenna for the desired frequency is selected. All off this is doable but I'm looking for a more automatic system like that built-in to the Elecraft equipment. It appears that I need to design and build what I want. I've taken up more than enough forum time on this subject so it can be closed. Thanks to All, Ken WA2LBI On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 11:47 PM Dave <[hidden email]> wrote: > Ken, > > Can’t you simply press a couple of buttons on the KPA500 and the KAT500 to > listen on a different band? No RF required. No tune required. > > 73, > Dave N8AG > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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