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Future of KPA500 & KAT500

Don Putnick-6
With the sunset of the K3S, what are the plans for the future of the KPA500
and KAT500? Enquiring minds want to know.
73 Don NA6Z
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Re: Future of KPA500 & KAT500

Bill Steffey NY9H
what could they do that would  update them ????     make them taller
like the K4 ????

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> With the sunset of the K3S, what are the plans for the future of the KPA500
> and KAT500? Enquiring minds want to know.
> 73 Don NA6Z
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Re: Future of KPA500 & KAT500

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I read it as what would their future availability be, nothing to do with
updating.

Not uncommon to read about the KPA500 being paired with other
transceiver brands.

Regards,

Mike VP8NO

On 17/06/2020 09:54, Bill Steffey NY9H wrote:
> what could they do that would  update them ????     make them taller
> like the K4 ????
>
> On 6/17/2020 12:47 AM, Don Putnick wrote:
>> With the sunset of the K3S, what are the plans for the future of the
>> KPA500
>> and KAT500? Enquiring minds want to know.
>> 73 Don NA6Z
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Re: Future of KPA500 & KAT500

RICHARD Martin
Make a 12 VDC version to assist disaster communications.

Dick KN6AA

On Wed, Jun 17, 2020, 06:06 Mike Harris via Elecraft <
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> I read it as what would their future availability be, nothing to do with
> updating.
>
> Not uncommon to read about the KPA500 being paired with other
> transceiver brands.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike VP8NO
>
> On 17/06/2020 09:54, Bill Steffey NY9H wrote:
> > what could they do that would  update them ????     make them taller
> > like the K4 ????
> >
> > On 6/17/2020 12:47 AM, Don Putnick wrote:
> >> With the sunset of the K3S, what are the plans for the future of the
> >> KPA500
> >> and KAT500? Enquiring minds want to know.
> >> 73 Don NA6Z
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Re: Future of KPA500 & KAT500

john@kk9a.com
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How about combining them into a single enclosure?

John KK9A


Bill Steffey NY9H wrote:

what could they do that would  update them ????     make them taller
like the K4 ????

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Re: Future of KPA500 & KAT500

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Seems like they are just as applicable to the K4 as well.

Chuck Hawley
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With the sunset of the K3S, what are the plans for the future of the KPA500
and KAT500? Enquiring minds want to know.
73 Don NA6Z
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Re: Future of KPA500 & KAT500

ke9uw
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Hey, that's a thought. Reinvent them to match the height of the K4 and maybe include the tuner inside the KPA500 box.

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what could they do that would  update them ????     make them taller
like the K4 ????

On 6/17/2020 12:47 AM, Don Putnick wrote:

> With the sunset of the K3S, what are the plans for the future of the KPA500
> and KAT500? Enquiring minds want to know.
> 73 Don NA6Z
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Re: Future of KPA500 & KAT500

NJ8M
Charles, your thinking on pairing the amp with tuner inside had great merit
and housing it inside of a K4 enclosure. Heck man that is the best idea I
have heard. I hope Elecraft takes the move on that especially now since
they already have the format for the case made and only have to change the
front and back plates and G2G.

73,
Morgan Bailey NJ8M

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> Hey, that's a thought. Reinvent them to match the height of the K4 and
> maybe include the tuner inside the KPA500 box.
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> Chuck Hawley
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> what could they do that would  update them ????     make them taller
> like the K4 ????
>
> On 6/17/2020 12:47 AM, Don Putnick wrote:
> > With the sunset of the K3S, what are the plans for the future of the
> KPA500
> > and KAT500? Enquiring minds want to know.
> > 73 Don NA6Z
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Re: Future of KPA500 & KAT500

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I think it depends on the use case. I’d rather see the KPA500 v2 made lighter and a third antenna port added.

The real icing on the cake would be 10w in and 500w out but I won’t touch that topic too much!

This would make it a better “portable” amp.

Paul
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> On Jun 17, 2020, at 8:39 AM, hawley, charles j jr <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> Seems like they are just as applicable to the K4 as well.
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> With the sunset of the K3S, what are the plans for the future of the KPA500
> and KAT500? Enquiring minds want to know.
> 73 Don NA6Z
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Re: Future of KPA500 & KAT500

Don Putnick-6
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I guess I should have been more specific. Will they keep them or will they
discontinue them? They started as part of the K3 line. Didn't intend to
mean upgrade. 73 Don NA6Z

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> With the sunset of the K3S, what are the plans for the future of the
> KPA500 and KAT500? Enquiring minds want to know.
> 73 Don NA6Z
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Re: Future of KPA500 & KAT500

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I think a 500W-class amp is a good thing to keep in the product line, whether it’s the current KPA500 or KPA500A, or whatever.  Not everyone necessarily wants or needs a KPA1500.  The 500 watt amp is right in line with vintage gear like the 30L-1/SB200 — both VERY popular in their day (and still widely used) for good reason.  I could care less about either the size of the cabinet or less than an S-unit.

Grant NQ5T

> On Jun 17, 2020, at 2:10 PM, Don Putnick <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I guess I should have been more specific. Will they keep them or will they
> discontinue them? They started as part of the K3 line. Didn't intend to
> mean upgrade. 73 Don NA6Z
>
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 9:47 PM Don Putnick <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> With the sunset of the K3S, what are the plans for the future of the
>> KPA500 and KAT500? Enquiring minds want to know.
>> 73 Don NA6Z
>>

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Re: Future of KPA500 & KAT500

wayne burdick
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The KPA500 and KAT500 are proven QRO products that we'll be shipping for many years to come.

73,
Wayne
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> On Jun 17, 2020, at 11:40 AM, Grant Youngman <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I think a 500W-class amp is a good thing to keep in the product line, whether it’s the current KPA500 or KPA500A, or whatever.  Not everyone necessarily wants or needs a KPA1500.  The 500 watt amp is right in line with vintage gear like the 30L-1/SB200 — both VERY popular in their day (and still widely used) for good reason.  I could care less about either the size of the cabinet or less than an S-unit.
>
> Grant NQ5T
>
>> On Jun 17, 2020, at 2:10 PM, Don Putnick <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> I guess I should have been more specific. Will they keep them or will they
>> discontinue them? They started as part of the K3 line. Didn't intend to
>> mean upgrade. 73 Don NA6Z
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 9:47 PM Don Putnick <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> With the sunset of the K3S, what are the plans for the future of the
>>> KPA500 and KAT500? Enquiring minds want to know.
>>> 73 Don NA6Z
>>>
>
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Re: Future of KPA500 & KAT500

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The KAT500 has three antenna out ports. It only needs one In so the KPA500 needs only one out port.

As for the 10 W in and 500 out idea.  That is prohibited by law. They’re only allowed to sell an amp with max gain of 13dB.

Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jun 17, 2020, at 12:18 PM, Paul Gacek via Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I think it depends on the use case. I’d rather see the KPA500 v2 made lighter and a third antenna port added.
>
> The real icing on the cake would be 10w in and 500w out but I won’t touch that topic too much!
>
> This would make it a better “portable” amp.
>
> Paul
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>
>
>> On Jun 17, 2020, at 8:39 AM, hawley, charles j jr <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Seems like they are just as applicable to the K4 as well.
>>
>> Chuck Hawley
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>> Subject: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500
>>
>> With the sunset of the K3S, what are the plans for the future of the KPA500
>> and KAT500? Enquiring minds want to know.
>> 73 Don NA6Z
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Re: Future of KPA500 & KAT500

VE3NR
Maybe it's time to change the law!

The rest of the world is suffering because of an outdated law in the US!

Bert VE3NR





On 2020-06-17 15:13, Nr4c wrote:

> The KAT500 has three antenna out ports. It only needs one In so the KPA500 needs only one out port.
>
> As for the 10 W in and 500 out idea.  That is prohibited by law. They’re only allowed to sell an amp with max gain of 13dB.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
>
>
>> On Jun 17, 2020, at 12:18 PM, Paul Gacek via Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> I think it depends on the use case. I’d rather see the KPA500 v2 made lighter and a third antenna port added.
>>
>> The real icing on the cake would be 10w in and 500w out but I won’t touch that topic too much!
>>
>> This would make it a better “portable” amp.
>>
>> Paul
>> W6PNG/M0SNA
>> www.nomadic.blog
>>
>>
>>> On Jun 17, 2020, at 8:39 AM, hawley, charles j jr <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Seems like they are just as applicable to the K4 as well.
>>>
>>> Chuck Hawley
>>> [hidden email]
>>>
>>> Amateur Radio, KE9UW
>>> aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles
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>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 11:47 PM
>>> To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>
>>> Subject: [Elecraft] Future of KPA500 & KAT500
>>>
>>> With the sunset of the K3S, what are the plans for the future of the KPA500
>>> and KAT500? Enquiring minds want to know.
>>> 73 Don NA6Z
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Re: Future of KPA500 & KAT500

Rick Bates, NK7I
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Having both plus the KPA1500 (same height as the K4), that would be a
challenge without a major rework.  Not just in squeezing it in, but
still allow for adequate cooling.

If they choose to go down that path, I'd hope they keep the third
antenna port (only two on the KPA1500).

As for their long term plans; we know they listen but are sly in
responding until it's time to announce.

73,
Rick NK7I


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Re: Future of KPA500 & KAT500

Josh Fiden
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I like combining them. And update to a lightweight switching power supply. Should be less expensive to produce and eliminates dealing with 120 vs 230, transformer taps, voltage sag under load.

I have them already and this adds no additional functionality, except easier when I shuffle things around in the shack. Work perfectly as they are so no new purchase for me.

73
Josh W6XU

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> How about combining them into a single enclosure?
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> Bill Steffey NY9H wrote:
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> what could they do that would  update them ????     make them taller
> like the K4 ????
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Re: Future of KPA500 & KAT500

Lou W0FK
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I doubt Elecraft wold spend money to re-engineer the KPA500/KAT500, invest in
new boards, cabinetry, manuals, production/assembly changes, etc. The pair
works well as is, and costs zero R&D or production dollars to continue them
as they are.

Besides, they'll fit the new K5 profile when it comes out. ;-)

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Re: Future of KPA500 & KAT500

Wes Stewart-2
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15 dB

Wes  N7WS

On 6/17/2020 12:13 PM, Nr4c wrote:
> The KAT500 has three antenna out ports. It only needs one In so the KPA500 needs only one out port.
>
> As for the 10 W in and 500 out idea.  That is prohibited by law. They’re only allowed to sell an amp with max gain of 13dB.
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Re: Future of KPA500 & KAT500

Stephen Shearer
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There has been discussion...  on Elecraft K4 group.
73, steve

On 5/8/20 11:40 AM, N6KR wrote:> Hi Stephen,
 >
 > This would be cool, but it's a substantial amount of design work.
We've talked about it, but that's about as far as we've gotten. It might
depend on demand.
 >
 > 73,
 > Wayne
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 >
 >> On May 8, 2020, at 8:38 AM, stephen shearer
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 >> Wayne,
 >>
 >> Speaking of the KAT500, KPA500, and the K4...
 >>
 >> Are there plans to combine the KAT500 and KPA500 into one box
matching the K4 ??
 >> It would be nice for portable and those that don't want 1500W'sThere
has been discussion
 >>
 >> 73, steve WB3LGC
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 >> On 5/8/20 10:40 AM, N6KR wrote:
 >>> Hi Brian,
 >>> This is certainly possible, and a very good idea. We'll add it to
the list of potential features.
 >>> Please describe what you'd like to see on such an information display.
 >>> 73,
 >>> Wayne
 >>> N6KR
 >>>> On May 7, 2020, at 6:34 PM, Brian <[hidden email]> wrote:
 >>>>
 >>>> Will the K4 be able to display the operation of KAT500 and KPA 500
when they are remote to the K4, i.e. if they are fairly close but not
visible to the operator.
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On 6/17/20 3:57 PM, Lou W0FK wrote:

> I doubt Elecraft wold spend money to re-engineer the KPA500/KAT500, invest in
> new boards, cabinetry, manuals, production/assembly changes, etc. The pair
> works well as is, and costs zero R&D or production dollars to continue them
> as they are.
>
> Besides, they'll fit the new K5 profile when it comes out. ;-)
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> 73, Lou W0FK
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Re: Future of KPA500 & KAT500

Josh Fiden
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Also nice to have an amp you can run from 120v if needed.

73
Josh W6XU

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> On Jun 17, 2020, at 11:47 AM, Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> The KPA500 and KAT500 are proven QRO products that we'll be shipping for many years to come.
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> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
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>> On Jun 17, 2020, at 11:40 AM, Grant Youngman <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>> I think a 500W-class amp is a good thing to keep in the product line, whether it’s the current KPA500 or KPA500A, or whatever.  Not everyone necessarily wants or needs a KPA1500.  The 500 watt amp is right in line with vintage gear like the 30L-1/SB200 — both VERY popular in their day (and still widely used) for good reason.  I could care less about either the size of the cabinet or less than an S-unit.
>>
>> Grant NQ5T
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>>>> On Jun 17, 2020, at 2:10 PM, Don Putnick <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>>> I guess I should have been more specific. Will they keep them or will they
>>> discontinue them? They started as part of the K3 line. Didn't intend to
>>> mean upgrade. 73 Don NA6Z
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 9:47 PM Don Putnick <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>>>> With the sunset of the K3S, what are the plans for the future of the
>>>> KPA500 and KAT500? Enquiring minds want to know.
>>>> 73 Don NA6Z
>>>>
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