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NK7Z

Genovation Keypad on teh K3/P3, solved

Hello,
I now have a Genovation CP48USBHID keypad working on my P3/K3 feeding up
to 48 different macros to the K3 at a single button press.

See:
http://nk7z.net/adding-an-external-keypad-to-the-k3/

for the how to, and a download for the patch to the Genovation to allow
it to plug into the P3 and be recognized.
--
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Bill-3

Re: Genovation Keypad on teh K3/P3, solved

Sounds like a cottage industry in the making. Sell/deliver the keypad in
plug and play fashion along with 10 or 12 macros to be used as seeds and
samples (for modification and copying). Thus allowing easy installation
and learning how to do the macro stuff on the P3 (keypad already
programmed with the single alpha/numeric names for the macros to be
programmed in the P3).

Personally, I would pay for plug & play.

Bill W2BLC K-Line

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Doug Turnbull

Re: Genovation Keypad on teh K3/P3, solved

Ditto EI2CN, you have my order!!!

73 Doug EI2CN

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Genovation Keypad on teh K3/P3, solved

Sounds like a cottage industry in the making. Sell/deliver the keypad in
plug and play fashion along with 10 or 12 macros to be used as seeds and
samples (for modification and copying). Thus allowing easy installation
and learning how to do the macro stuff on the P3 (keypad already
programmed with the single alpha/numeric names for the macros to be
programmed in the P3).

Personally, I would pay for plug & play.

Bill W2BLC K-Line

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Cady, Fred-2

Re: Genovation Keypad on teh K3/P3, solved

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GREAT job Dave. I'll bet this will work with the KX3/PX3 too. I'd like to refer to it in the next editions of the K3S and KX3 books if that's OK with you.
73,
Fred KE7X

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Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 7:38 PM
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Subject: [Elecraft] Genovation Keypad on teh K3/P3, solved

Hello,
I now have a Genovation CP48USBHID keypad working on my P3/K3 feeding up
to 48 different macros to the K3 at a single button press.

See:
http://nk7z.net/adding-an-external-keypad-to-the-k3/

for the how to, and a download for the patch to the Genovation to allow
it to plug into the P3 and be recognized.
--
Thanks and 73's,
For equipment, and software setups and reviews see:
www.nk7z.net

For MixW support see;
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info
For Dopplergram information see:
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info
For MM-SSTV see:
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info

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NK7Z

Re: Genovation Keypad on teh K3/P3, solved

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Hi,

It's not that difficult, most of the work is just programming the P3
macros into the P3 as Elecraft instructs you to do. Which was harder to
do than prepping the Genovation, as I used an external keyboard on the
P3.

Once the Keypad is updated, I just enter the triggers one time, hit the
download button on the keypad software, and I am done forever
programming the keypad.

The keypad triggers the P3 to fire its macros, so you just program the
triggers in once, and on the P3 make sure they match. If you want to
change macros, just change the P3 keeping the same trigger. The
triggers are arbitrarily selected. I used 1-z, 1-0, and F1-F12, one for
each key. Then I just program the P3 to fire a macro on the appropriate
trigger.

The trick is in getting the triggers to match, and that is taken care of
by the chart you can download.

The write up makes it look a lot worse than it is because of the detail
level. The entire process took about 3 minutes to prep the Genovation,
and the rest of the time was spent making macros on the P3.

Once the Genovation is programmed I never program it again... All it
does is trigger macros from the P3.

I must say, that after using the external keypad for a few hours on a
pileup it is nice... I almost never touch the K3 anymore.

--
Thanks and 73's,
For equipment, and software setups and reviews see:
www.nk7z.net

For MixW support see;
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info
For Dopplergram information see:
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info
For MM-SSTV see:
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info

On Fri, 2016-01-22 at 06:46 -0500, Bill wrote:

> Sounds like a cottage industry in the making. Sell/deliver the keypad in
> plug and play fashion along with 10 or 12 macros to be used as seeds and
> samples (for modification and copying). Thus allowing easy installation
> and learning how to do the macro stuff on the P3 (keypad already
> programmed with the single alpha/numeric names for the macros to be
> programmed in the P3).
>
> Personally, I would pay for plug & play.
>
> Bill W2BLC K-Line
>
>
>
>
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NK7Z

Re: Genovation Keypad on teh K3/P3, solved

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Hi Fred,

I have no reason to believe it won't work with the KX3, or K3S either, I
just don't have one of the new K3S rigs, so I can't test it... Hence
why I only talk about the K3.

Now if Elecraft would just give me a K3S, I'd be happy to test it... :)

Please do feel free to include the links to the setup. Here is the a
direct link, which should never change.

http://nk7z.net/adding-an-external-keypad-to-the-k3/

I will be updating it often with new macros. I already have most filled
up...

--
Thanks and 73's,
For equipment, and software setups and reviews see:
www.nk7z.net

For MixW support see;
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info
For Dopplergram information see:
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info
For MM-SSTV see:
http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info

On Fri, 2016-01-22 at 14:51 +0000, Cady, Fred wrote:

> GREAT job Dave. I'll bet this will work with the KX3/PX3 too. I'd like to refer to it in the next editions of the K3S and KX3 books if that's OK with you.
> 73,
> Fred KE7X
>
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Elecraft <[hidden email]> on behalf of David Cole <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 7:38 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [Elecraft] Genovation Keypad on teh K3/P3, solved
>
> Hello,
> I now have a Genovation CP48USBHID keypad working on my P3/K3 feeding up
> to 48 different macros to the K3 at a single button press.
>
> See:
> http://nk7z.net/adding-an-external-keypad-to-the-k3/
>
> for the how to, and a download for the patch to the Genovation to allow
> it to plug into the P3 and be recognized.
> --
> Thanks and 73's,
> For equipment, and software setups and reviews see:
> www.nk7z.net
>
> For MixW support see;
> http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info
> For Dopplergram information see:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info
> For MM-SSTV see:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info
>
>
>
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N1EU

Re: Genovation Keypad on teh K3/P3, solved

This is fantastic Dave and a groundbreaking development in rig
interfacing. Have you, or do you intend to, physically label the keys?

I NEED one of these.

Thanks & 73,
Barry N1EU

On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 10:17 AM, David Cole <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Fred,
>
> I have no reason to believe it won't work with the KX3, or K3S either, I
> just don't have one of the new K3S rigs, so I can't test it... Hence
> why I only talk about the K3.
>
> Now if Elecraft would just give me a K3S, I'd be happy to test it... :)
>
> Please do feel free to include the links to the setup. Here is the a
> direct link, which should never change.
>
> http://nk7z.net/adding-an-external-keypad-to-the-k3/
>
> I will be updating it often with new macros. I already have most filled
> up...
>
> --
> Thanks and 73's,
> For equipment, and software setups and reviews see:
> www.nk7z.net
>
> For MixW support see;
> http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info
> For Dopplergram information see:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info
> For MM-SSTV see:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info
>
>
> On Fri, 2016-01-22 at 14:51 +0000, Cady, Fred wrote:
> > GREAT job Dave. I'll bet this will work with the KX3/PX3 too. I'd like
> to refer to it in the next editions of the K3S and KX3 books if that's OK
> with you.
> > 73,
> > Fred KE7X
> >
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > From: Elecraft <[hidden email]> on behalf of David
> Cole <[hidden email]>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 7:38 PM
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Subject: [Elecraft] Genovation Keypad on teh K3/P3, solved
> >
> > Hello,
> > I now have a Genovation CP48USBHID keypad working on my P3/K3 feeding up
> > to 48 different macros to the K3 at a single button press.
> >
> > See:
> > http://nk7z.net/adding-an-external-keypad-to-the-k3/
> >
> > for the how to, and a download for the patch to the Genovation to allow
> > it to plug into the P3 and be recognized.
> > --
> > Thanks and 73's,
> > For equipment, and software setups and reviews see:
> > www.nk7z.net
> >
> > For MixW support see;
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info
> > For Dopplergram information see:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info
> > For MM-SSTV see:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info
> >
> >
> >
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Greg - AB7R

Re: Genovation Keypad on teh K3/P3, solved

Hi Barry. I had one of these...worked great. If I recall it comes with a pre printed key labels and also a set of blanks. I think you can order a set of blanks as well.

Greg

----- Original Message -----
From: Barry N1EU <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 10:31:36 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Genovation Keypad on teh K3/P3, solved

This is fantastic Dave and a groundbreaking development in rig
interfacing. Have you, or do you intend to, physically label the keys?

I NEED one of these.

Thanks & 73,
Barry N1EU

On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 10:17 AM, David Cole <[hidden email]> wrote:

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NK7Z

Re: Genovation Keypad on teh K3/P3, solved

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The spreadsheet that comes with the Genovation keypad has keys on it
with the same aspect ratio as the physical keys. This is so one can add
labels. I added color, and labels, then printed and cut the paper to
fit under the keycaps. The keypad comes with a keycap remover, so this
has been a godsend in labeling.

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For equipment, and software setups and reviews see:
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For MixW support see;
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On Fri, 2016-01-22 at 10:31 -0500, Barry N1EU wrote:

> This is fantastic Dave and a groundbreaking development in rig
> interfacing. Have you, or do you intend to, physically label the keys?
>
> I NEED one of these.
>
> Thanks & 73,
> Barry N1EU
>
> On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 10:17 AM, David Cole <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Hi Fred,
> >
> > I have no reason to believe it won't work with the KX3, or K3S either, I
> > just don't have one of the new K3S rigs, so I can't test it... Hence
> > why I only talk about the K3.
> >
> > Now if Elecraft would just give me a K3S, I'd be happy to test it... :)
> >
> > Please do feel free to include the links to the setup. Here is the a
> > direct link, which should never change.
> >
> > http://nk7z.net/adding-an-external-keypad-to-the-k3/
> >
> > I will be updating it often with new macros. I already have most filled
> > up...
> >
> > --
> > Thanks and 73's,
> > For equipment, and software setups and reviews see:
> > www.nk7z.net
> >
> > For MixW support see;
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info
> > For Dopplergram information see:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info
> > For MM-SSTV see:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 2016-01-22 at 14:51 +0000, Cady, Fred wrote:
> > > GREAT job Dave. I'll bet this will work with the KX3/PX3 too. I'd like
> > to refer to it in the next editions of the K3S and KX3 books if that's OK
> > with you.
> > > 73,
> > > Fred KE7X
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________________
> > > From: Elecraft <[hidden email]> on behalf of David
> > Cole <[hidden email]>
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2016 7:38 PM
> > > To: [hidden email]
> > > Subject: [Elecraft] Genovation Keypad on teh K3/P3, solved
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > > I now have a Genovation CP48USBHID keypad working on my P3/K3 feeding up
> > > to 48 different macros to the K3 at a single button press.
> > >
> > > See:
> > > http://nk7z.net/adding-an-external-keypad-to-the-k3/
> > >
> > > for the how to, and a download for the patch to the Genovation to allow
> > > it to plug into the P3 and be recognized.
> > > --
> > > Thanks and 73's,
> > > For equipment, and software setups and reviews see:
> > > www.nk7z.net
> > >
> > > For MixW support see;
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info
> > > For Dopplergram information see:
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info
> > > For MM-SSTV see:
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Wes (N7WS)

Re: Genovation Keypad on teh K3/P3, solved

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I'd be interested in seeing it interfaced directly to the K3 without the
necessity of having a P3.

I considered buying one of these some time ago to play with but their only
distributors were in Phoenix, where I am most definitely not. One of them
wanted to charge me Phoenix sales tax since I"m in AZ. I went so far as to
email him the Phoenix City Code to prove that this was unjustified. He didn't
care. The other one was also in Phoenix and wanted to charge shipping based on
the cost of the item. So shipping a pound of $100 bills would cost a fortune
but shipping a pound of iron would be cheap. I suggested to Genovation that
they find some other distributors. I'm pleased to note that Amazon has them now.

Wes N7WS

On 1/22/2016 7:54 AM, David Cole wrote:

> Hi,
>
> It's not that difficult, most of the work is just programming the P3
> macros into the P3 as Elecraft instructs you to do. Which was harder to
> do than prepping the Genovation, as I used an external keyboard on the
> P3.
>
> Once the Keypad is updated, I just enter the triggers one time, hit the
> download button on the keypad software, and I am done forever
> programming the keypad.
>
> The keypad triggers the P3 to fire its macros, so you just program the
> triggers in once, and on the P3 make sure they match. If you want to
> change macros, just change the P3 keeping the same trigger. The
> triggers are arbitrarily selected. I used 1-z, 1-0, and F1-F12, one for
> each key. Then I just program the P3 to fire a macro on the appropriate
> trigger.
>
> The trick is in getting the triggers to match, and that is taken care of
> by the chart you can download.
>
> The write up makes it look a lot worse than it is because of the detail
> level. The entire process took about 3 minutes to prep the Genovation,
> and the rest of the time was spent making macros on the P3.
>
> Once the Genovation is programmed I never program it again... All it
> does is trigger macros from the P3.
>
> I must say, that after using the external keypad for a few hours on a
> pileup it is nice... I almost never touch the K3 anymore.
>