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Good side cutter pliers for PC board assembly

Pete Smith N4ZR
This is only tangential to Elecraft (via kit assembly) but I am looking
for a good pair of small side cutter pliers (I think that's the right
nomenclature) to use in PC board assembly.  The problem with most I have
seen is that they have a small angled area before the cutting edge on
the non-recessed side, which prevents my cutting wire leads as close to
the top of the solder bulge on the bottom of the PC board as I would
like.  If you know of a good specific model number or maker, I'd
appreciate a direct e-mail.  I'll summarize for the group if there is
interest.

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Re: Good side cutter pliers for PC board assembly

Don Wilhelm-4
Pete,

There may be enough interest to warrant a public reply.
Those are usually called "flush cutters".
One inexpensive (and quite good) model is the 170M by Xcelite or Cresent
or Lufkin (same company, Lufkin Tools).
I have found them at Home Depot in the past, either singly or in a
package with similar thin nose pliers.
If you don't find them locally, try Google to identify some sources.

73,
Don W3FPR

Pete Smith wrote:

> This is only tangential to Elecraft (via kit assembly) but I am looking
> for a good pair of small side cutter pliers (I think that's the right
> nomenclature) to use in PC board assembly.  The problem with most I have
> seen is that they have a small angled area before the cutting edge on
> the non-recessed side, which prevents my cutting wire leads as close to
> the top of the solder bulge on the bottom of the PC board as I would
> like.  If you know of a good specific model number or maker, I'd
> appreciate a direct e-mail.  I'll summarize for the group if there is
> interest.
>
>  
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Re: Good side cutter pliers for PC board assembly

Jim Wiley-2
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Pete -


What you are looking for is a pair of "flush cutting" wire cutters.  
These are offered by several manufacturers.   Cooper tools (Xcelite),
and Klein tools come to mind.  Available at most competent hardware
stores, and from practically any telecommunications supplier (like
Graybar).   I have these in two or three different sizes. The Xcelite
MS5-9J is almost ideal for Elecraft kit work.   They have several
similar  models.  The ones with the "J" in the model number are
flush-cut types

- Jim, KL7CC




Pete Smith wrote:

> This is only tangential to Elecraft (via kit assembly) but I am looking
> for a good pair of small side cutter pliers (I think that's the right
> nomenclature) to use in PC board assembly.  The problem with most I have
> seen is that they have a small angled area before the cutting edge on
> the non-recessed side, which prevents my cutting wire leads as close to
> the top of the solder bulge on the bottom of the PC board as I would
> like.  If you know of a good specific model number or maker, I'd
> appreciate a direct e-mail.  I'll summarize for the group if there is
> interest.
>
>  
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Re: Good side cutter pliers for PC board assembly

Jim Wiley-2
Oops - make that MS54-9J.   Fat finger got me

- Jim. KL7CC



Jim Wiley wrote:

> Pete -
>
>
> What you are looking for is a pair of "flush cutting" wire cutters.  
> These are offered by several manufacturers.   Cooper tools (Xcelite),
> and Klein tools come to mind.  Available at most competent hardware
> stores, and from practically any telecommunications supplier (like
> Graybar).   I have these in two or three different sizes. The Xcelite
> MS5-9J is almost ideal for Elecraft kit work.   They have several
> similar  models.  The ones with the "J" in the model number are
> flush-cut types
>
> - Jim, KL7CC
>
>
>
>
> Pete Smith wrote:
>  
>> This is only tangential to Elecraft (via kit assembly) but I am looking
>> for a good pair of small side cutter pliers (I think that's the right
>> nomenclature) to use in PC board assembly.  The problem with most I have
>> seen is that they have a small angled area before the cutting edge on
>> the non-recessed side, which prevents my cutting wire leads as close to
>> the top of the solder bulge on the bottom of the PC board as I would
>> like.  If you know of a good specific model number or maker, I'd
>> appreciate a direct e-mail.  I'll summarize for the group if there is
>> interest.
>>
>>  
>>    
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Re: Good side cutter pliers for PC board assembly

Joe Subich, W4TV-4
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Pete,

For general basic understanding, here is a guide to the differences
among cutting pliers:

http://www.stanleysupplyservices.com/product/pdf/toolselectGuide.pdf

For your purposes, the desired cutting profile would be flush or
semi-flush cutting.  Tapered semi-flush cutters are perhaps the
most flexible for the occasional user as the semi-flush cutting
design provides some protection for the circuit board and the
tapered profile provides better access in some areas.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV

On 7/7/2010 3:54 PM, Pete Smith wrote:

> This is only tangential to Elecraft (via kit assembly) but I am looking
> for a good pair of small side cutter pliers (I think that's the right
> nomenclature) to use in PC board assembly.  The problem with most I have
> seen is that they have a small angled area before the cutting edge on
> the non-recessed side, which prevents my cutting wire leads as close to
> the top of the solder bulge on the bottom of the PC board as I would
> like.  If you know of a good specific model number or maker, I'd
> appreciate a direct e-mail.  I'll summarize for the group if there is
> interest.
>
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Re: Good side cutter pliers for PC board assembly

Rob May-2
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Flush cutters are what you're looking for.  Rat Shack has them:
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3932532

Or better quality from Mouser, we use these at work:
http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Cooper-Tools/170D/?qs=fKX4t1ubQE8THNMgc4gukw%3d%3d
Made in the USA.

Rob
NV5E

> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 15:54:20 -0400
> From: [hidden email]
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [Elecraft] Good side cutter pliers for PC board assembly
>
> This is only tangential to Elecraft (via kit assembly) but I am looking
> for a good pair of small side cutter pliers (I think that's the right
> nomenclature) to use in PC board assembly.  The problem with most I have
> seen is that they have a small angled area before the cutting edge on
> the non-recessed side, which prevents my cutting wire leads as close to
> the top of the solder bulge on the bottom of the PC board as I would
> like.  If you know of a good specific model number or maker, I'd
> appreciate a direct e-mail.  I'll summarize for the group if there is
> interest.
>
> --
> 73, Pete N4ZR
>
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Re: Good side cutter pliers for PC board assembly

Joe Planisky
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Hi Pete,

I have both the Xcelite 170M shear cutters that Don mentioned and a  
pair of Xcelite MS54-5J flush cutters. Both work well.

Note that the 170M is a shear cutter.  That means that the cutting  
edges of the blades look ever so slightly mis-aligned so that one  
cutting edge slightly overlaps the other.  Wires are actually sliced  
all the way through instead of being "pinched off".  That means the  
clipped off wire ends don't go flying across the room, and there's  
less mechanical shock delivered to the component.

The Xcelite MS54-5J cutters are the conventional flush-cut dikes.  
Since the cutting edges exactly meet in the center, it pinches the  
wire off and can cause the clipped end to go flying.  However, it  
produces a cleaner looking result than the shear cutters.

The 170M is cheap: around $5.00 vs around $16.00 for the MS54-5J.

The 170M probably won't take as much abuse as the MS54-5J.

73
--
Joe KB8AP



On Jul 7, 2010, at 12:54 PM, Pete Smith wrote:

> ... I am looking
> for a good pair of small side cutter pliers ... to use in PC board  
> assembly.
> --
> 73, Pete N4ZR

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Re: Good side cutter pliers for PC board assembly

Mike Short
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I use the ones from Radio Shack. They work very well, and have a lifetime
warranty.

Mike
AI4NS

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Re: Good side cutter pliers for PC board assembly

Terry Schieler
Mike,

That would be Radio Shack's "lifetime", correct?  ;o)

Terry W0FM

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I use the ones from Radio Shack. They work very well, and have a lifetime
warranty.

Mike
AI4NS




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Re: Good side cutter pliers for PC board assembly

John-483
A good set of fingernail clippers worked fine for me on about 90% of
the cuts. Two K2's and a K1 were built using them. They are very good
for some tight areas.

john
k7up
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