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How to determine K3 filter type - 5-pole or 8-pole

k6mkf
Hi Gang,

I recently bought a used K3 which has filters installed in both the main
and sub receivers.

Is there an external way of determining if these filters are 5-pole or
8-pole?

Is the value of FLx FRQ for each filter a clue?

Thanks for your assistance!
*

73 de Mike, K6MKF
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Re: How to determine K3 filter type - 5-pole or 8-pole

Joe Subich, W4TV-4

 > Is the value of FLx FRQ for each filter a clue?

Yes, if FLx FRQ is 0.00, the filter is probably an 8 pole.  The 5 pole
filters generally have some offset.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 6/21/2013 3:53 PM, Mike Flowers wrote:

> Hi Gang,
>
> I recently bought a used K3 which has filters installed in both the main
> and sub receivers.
>
> Is there an external way of determining if these filters are 5-pole or
> 8-pole?
>
> Is the value of FLx FRQ for each filter a clue?
>
> Thanks for your assistance!
> *
>
> 73 de Mike, K6MKF
> *
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Re: How to determine K3 filter type - 5-pole or 8-pole

Don Wilhelm-4
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Mike,

The K3 Utility configuration tab can tell you which filters are
installed.  You can tell from the filter width whether it is an 8 pole
or a 5 pole - compare the installed widths with the filter listing on
the Elecraft order page (that page specifies 5 pole and 8 pole).

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/21/2013 3:53 PM, Mike Flowers wrote:

> Hi Gang,
>
> I recently bought a used K3 which has filters installed in both the main
> and sub receivers.
>
> Is there an external way of determining if these filters are 5-pole or
> 8-pole?
>
> Is the value of FLx FRQ for each filter a clue?
>
> Thanks for your assistance!
> *
>
> 73 de Mike, K6MKF
> *
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Re: How to determine K3 filter type - 5-pole or 8-pole

Oliver Dröse
Not a 100% safe way to tell so. A lot of OPs (myself included) let their
filters switch in earlier already. I.e. my 400 Hz 8 pole filter is switched
in at 500 Hz DSP bandwidth (exactly that is reflected in the filter setup in
K3 Utility) already so with Don's suggestion you would think it's a 5 pole
filter - not true. The most reliable way is certainly the checking the
filters themselves, i.e. hardware. Offset settings *might* be another way as
8 pole filters normally do not have an offset while 5 poles have. But even
that might not be 100% ... so take a look at the hardware and be sure what
you have. ;-)

73, Olli - DH8BQA


----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Wilhelm" <[hidden email]>
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] How to determine K3 filter type - 5-pole or 8-pole


> Mike,
>
> The K3 Utility configuration tab can tell you which filters are installed.
> You can tell from the filter width whether it is an 8 pole or a 5 pole -
> compare the installed widths with the filter listing on the Elecraft order
> page (that page specifies 5 pole and 8 pole).
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 6/21/2013 3:53 PM, Mike Flowers wrote:
>> Hi Gang,
>>
>> I recently bought a used K3 which has filters installed in both the main
>> and sub receivers.
>>
>> Is there an external way of determining if these filters are 5-pole or
>> 8-pole?
>>
>> Is the value of FLx FRQ for each filter a clue?
>>
>> Thanks for your assistance!
>> *
>>
>> 73 de Mike, K6MKF
>> *
>> ______________________________________________________________
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