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I am sure it is super easy, but I seem to be blind to the solution. How can
I reply on the reflector to a specific post within a thread? I am in the mail-archive.com/elecraft. site, looking at a post, seeing the threaded view of all the other posts. I have a screen print of what I see here: http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/Sharpshooter1/HAM%20Radio/reflector_z ps2430ecf0.jpg Please have a look and tell me where I need to go to respond specifically to the post marked with the blue arrow, so my post appears under his in the threaded list. Thank you, Arno kg7bjm ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Arno,
Typically you would just use the "Reply" button in your email client when viewing the message, and the necessary headers would be included to link to the existing thread .... but it looks like you are using Microsoft Outlook, so logic may not prevail ;) GL, ~iain / N6ML On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Arno Dienhart <[hidden email]> wrote: > I am sure it is super easy, but I seem to be blind to the solution. How can > I reply on the reflector to a specific post within a thread? > > > > I am in the mail-archive.com/elecraft. site, looking at a post, seeing the > threaded view of all the other posts. I have a screen print of what I see > here: > http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/Sharpshooter1/HAM%20Radio/reflector_z > ps2430ecf0.jpg > > > > Please have a look and tell me where I need to go to respond specifically to > the post marked with the blue arrow, so my post appears under his in the > threaded list. > > > > Thank you, > > > > Arno kg7bjm > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Okay, let's try this then. I am reading your message in outlook, hit reply,
change the TO address to elecraft, and send it. Let's see where it is positioned in the thread. It should be under your post in the list, (which is my main objective) and not just as one more response to the OP. Hitting send. From: Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 19:39 To: Arno Dienhart Subject: Re: [Elecraft] How to reply to specific post on the reflector? Depends on your mail client, but if the list address () is in the "to:" list somewhere, your message will go back to the list. "Reply" usually goes to the sender and skips the list. Some mail programs (Mozilla Thunderbird) recognize mailing lists and have a "reply list" button. On 6/10/2013 6:20 PM, Arno Dienhart wrote: I am sure it is super easy, but I seem to be blind to the solution. How can I reply on the reflector to a specific post within a thread? I am in the mail-archive.com/elecraft. site, looking at a post, seeing the threaded view of all the other posts. I have a screen print of what I see here: http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/Sharpshooter1/HAM%20Radio/reflector_z ps2430ecf0.jpg Please have a look and tell me where I need to go to respond specifically to the post marked with the blue arrow, so my post appears under his in the threaded list. Thank you, Arno kg7bjm ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Iain,
If I hit reply in Outlook, it will go to your email address only. So if I change the TO address to [hidden email], it should go back to the list. However, where will it be positioned? Under your post, or under my OP? We will see... -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of iain macdonnell - N6ML Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 19:26 To: Arno Dienhart Cc: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] How to reply to specific post on the reflector? Arno, Typically you would just use the "Reply" button in your email client when viewing the message, and the necessary headers would be included to link to the existing thread .... but it looks like you are using Microsoft Outlook, so logic may not prevail ;) GL, ~iain / N6ML On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Arno Dienhart <[hidden email]> wrote: > I am sure it is super easy, but I seem to be blind to the solution. > How can I reply on the reflector to a specific post within a thread? > > > > I am in the mail-archive.com/elecraft. site, looking at a post, seeing > the threaded view of all the other posts. I have a screen print of > what I see > here: > http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/Sharpshooter1/HAM%20Radio/refle > ctor_z > ps2430ecf0.jpg > > > > Please have a look and tell me where I need to go to respond > specifically to the post marked with the blue arrow, so my post > appears under his in the threaded list. > > > > Thank you, > > > > Arno kg7bjm > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Looks fine to me, Arno.
Doesn't Outlook have a "Reply to all" button somewhere? 73, ~iain / N6ML On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Arno Dienhart <[hidden email]> wrote: > Iain, > If I hit reply in Outlook, it will go to your email address only. So if I > change the TO address to [hidden email], it should go back to the > list. However, where will it be positioned? Under your post, or under my OP? > We will see... > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of iain > macdonnell - N6ML > Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 19:26 > To: Arno Dienhart > Cc: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] How to reply to specific post on the reflector? > > Arno, > > Typically you would just use the "Reply" button in your email client when > viewing the message, and the necessary headers would be included to link to > the existing thread .... but it looks like you are using Microsoft Outlook, > so logic may not prevail ;) > > GL, > > ~iain / N6ML > > > On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Arno Dienhart <[hidden email]> wrote: >> I am sure it is super easy, but I seem to be blind to the solution. >> How can I reply on the reflector to a specific post within a thread? >> >> >> >> I am in the mail-archive.com/elecraft. site, looking at a post, seeing >> the threaded view of all the other posts. I have a screen print of >> what I see >> here: >> http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/Sharpshooter1/HAM%20Radio/refle >> ctor_z >> ps2430ecf0.jpg >> >> >> >> Please have a look and tell me where I need to go to respond >> specifically to the post marked with the blue arrow, so my post >> appears under his in the threaded list. >> >> >> >> Thank you, >> >> >> >> Arno kg7bjm >> >> >> >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email >> list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Yes it does, in the drop down under "reply"
Have a great day, --... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy > Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 20:22:21 -0700 > From: [hidden email] > To: [hidden email] > CC: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] How to reply to specific post on the reflector? > > Looks fine to me, Arno. > > Doesn't Outlook have a "Reply to all" button somewhere? > > 73, > > ~iain / N6ML > > > On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Arno Dienhart <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Iain, > > If I hit reply in Outlook, it will go to your email address only. So if I > > change the TO address to [hidden email], it should go back to the > > list. However, where will it be positioned? Under your post, or under my OP? > > We will see... > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of iain > > macdonnell - N6ML > > Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 19:26 > > To: Arno Dienhart > > Cc: [hidden email] > > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] How to reply to specific post on the reflector? > > > > Arno, > > > > Typically you would just use the "Reply" button in your email client when > > viewing the message, and the necessary headers would be included to link to > > the existing thread .... but it looks like you are using Microsoft Outlook, > > so logic may not prevail ;) > > > > GL, > > > > ~iain / N6ML > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Arno Dienhart <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> I am sure it is super easy, but I seem to be blind to the solution. > >> How can I reply on the reflector to a specific post within a thread? > >> > >> > >> > >> I am in the mail-archive.com/elecraft. site, looking at a post, seeing > >> the threaded view of all the other posts. I have a screen print of > >> what I see > >> here: > >> http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/Sharpshooter1/HAM%20Radio/refle > >> ctor_z > >> ps2430ecf0.jpg > >> > >> > >> > >> Please have a look and tell me where I need to go to respond > >> specifically to the post marked with the blue arrow, so my post > >> appears under his in the threaded list. > >> > >> > >> > >> Thank you, > >> > >> > >> > >> Arno kg7bjm > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ______________________________________________________________ > >> Elecraft mailing list > >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] > >> > >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > >> list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I use Thunderbird which has a "Reply" (only to sender), a "Reply All"
(goes both to sender and the list unless edited), and a "Rely to List" (goes only to the list and this is one example). Usually I use "Reply to List" for those responses that are not directed at the original poster. OTOH, if a poster seems to be having a problem that I might help with, I use "Reply All" because I perceive that a quick response may be wanted, and some receive only the digest form, so they do not have the wait until the next digest for an answer. If a private response is warranted, I choose "Reply". Note that Yahoo Groups is different - there a "Reply" goes to the group only, "Reply All" goes to the group and the sender. Be aware of which type list you are responding on, and choose accordingly. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/10/2013 11:39 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: > Yep. In Outlook under "reply" in the upper left corner of the screen you > have "Reply", "Reply to All" and "Forward". > > I just used "Reply to All". It is necessary to edit out the direct e-mail > responses if you don't want to send the message direct as well as via the > reflector. It's a small nuisance to avoid overloading people. Sometimes if > someone is asking a question and clearly wants a quick answer, I'll leave > both the direct e-mail address and the reflector (so other's know it's been > answered) address intact. > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Elecraft sets up the mail list in a somewhat unusual way. (Why do hams call it a reflector?) The normal way is to rewrite the reply-to header so that REPLY goes back to the list without the need for Reply All and an extra copy to the previous sender.
The ordering is done by the recipients email client, assuming they are using a recent email client that supports threading. The Digest folks are in for a world of hurt :) - Brendon KK6AYI On Jun 10, 2013, at 8:53 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > I use Thunderbird which has a "Reply" (only to sender), a "Reply All" (goes both to sender and the list unless edited), and a "Rely to List" (goes only to the list and this is one example). > > Usually I use "Reply to List" for those responses that are not directed at the original poster. > OTOH, if a poster seems to be having a problem that I might help with, I use "Reply All" because I perceive that a quick response may be wanted, and some receive only the digest form, so they do not have the wait until the next digest for an answer. > > If a private response is warranted, I choose "Reply". > > Note that Yahoo Groups is different - there a "Reply" goes to the group only, "Reply All" goes to the group and the sender. > Be aware of which type list you are responding on, and choose accordingly. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 6/10/2013 11:39 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: >> Yep. In Outlook under "reply" in the upper left corner of the screen you >> have "Reply", "Reply to All" and "Forward". >> >> I just used "Reply to All". It is necessary to edit out the direct e-mail >> responses if you don't want to send the message direct as well as via the >> reflector. It's a small nuisance to avoid overloading people. Sometimes if >> someone is asking a question and clearly wants a quick answer, I'll leave >> both the direct e-mail address and the reflector (so other's know it's been >> answered) address intact. >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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On 6/10/2013 8:39 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
> I just used "Reply to All". It is necessary to edit out the direct e-mail > responses if you don't want to send the message direct as well as via the > reflector. It's a small nuisance to avoid overloading people. Sometimes if > someone is asking a question and clearly wants a quick answer, I'll leave > both the direct e-mail address and the reflector (so other's know it's been > answered) address intact. The current version of Thunderbird has the options Reply, Reply to List, Reply to All when replying to messages on this type of reflector. Reply sends it only to the poster. Of course, this assumes that one reads individual; e-mails, not a digest. All bets are off on the latter. 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Because Hams were around in the very early days of the internet, before
"listserv" was trademarked, and "reflector" was a one of several commonly used terms for a list server. On 6/10/2013 9:56 PM, Brendon Whateley wrote: > (Why do hams call it a reflector?) ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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That isn't at all unique to hams ... it's simply an older term that has been in use by many early adopters. The address you send messages to "reflects" that message to a predetermined list of addressees, so common terminology said that you sent your message to "the reflector". Dave AB7E On 6/10/2013 9:56 PM, Brendon Whateley wrote: > (Why do hams call it a reflector?) > > - Brendon > KK6AYI > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Yes Iain, it worked, and yes, there is Reply To All. With it, this time
elecraft is in the CC line. When I tried this earlier, elecraft did not appear at all, I had to manually insert it. So, let's see where this one appears, with elecraft in CC. (and thank you for bearing with me) Arno kg7bjm -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of iain macdonnell - N6ML Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 21:22 To: Arno Dienhart Cc: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] How to reply to specific post on the reflector? Looks fine to me, Arno. Doesn't Outlook have a "Reply to all" button somewhere? 73, ~iain / N6ML On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Arno Dienhart <[hidden email]> wrote: > Iain, > If I hit reply in Outlook, it will go to your email address only. So > if I change the TO address to [hidden email], it should go > back to the list. However, where will it be positioned? Under your post, or under my OP? > We will see... > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of iain > macdonnell - N6ML > Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 19:26 > To: Arno Dienhart > Cc: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] How to reply to specific post on the reflector? > > Arno, > > Typically you would just use the "Reply" button in your email client > when viewing the message, and the necessary headers would be included > to link to the existing thread .... but it looks like you are using > Microsoft Outlook, so logic may not prevail ;) > > GL, > > ~iain / N6ML > > > On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Arno Dienhart <[hidden email]> wrote: >> I am sure it is super easy, but I seem to be blind to the solution. >> How can I reply on the reflector to a specific post within a thread? >> >> >> >> I am in the mail-archive.com/elecraft. site, looking at a post, >> seeing the threaded view of all the other posts. I have a screen >> print of what I see >> here: >> http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/Sharpshooter1/HAM%20Radio/refl >> e >> ctor_z >> ps2430ecf0.jpg >> >> >> >> Please have a look and tell me where I need to go to respond >> specifically to the post marked with the blue arrow, so my post >> appears under his in the threaded list. >> >> >> >> Thank you, >> >> >> >> Arno kg7bjm >> >> >> >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this >> list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Brendon,
It is not that Elecraft has set it up that way, but all reflectors using mailman.qth.net behave the same way. I 'cut my teeth' on reflectors that work as mailman.qth.net does and think that those who do it the other way around (such as Yahoo Groups) are 'backwards'. I believe the the convention used by mailman.qth.net is much older than other groups that have switched the order for replying. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/11/2013 12:56 AM, Brendon Whateley wrote: > Elecraft sets up the mail list in a somewhat unusual way. (Why do hams call it a reflector?) The normal way is to rewrite the reply-to header so that REPLY goes back to the list without the need for Reply All and an extra copy to the previous sender. > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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The term "reflector" is not a ham only term -- it is a general term referring to any email subscriber list broadcast system. In fact, the "reflector" is the name and role of the host e-mail address. That is, in this case of Elecraft, the address "[hidden email]" is called the reflector address.
I am not sure where the term "reflector" originated but I am guessing that it came about from one of the list serve type applications that were developed at some time in the past. My experience goes back to early Unix SendMail manual systems and early Listserv managed systems. Even though I am getting old now, I do not remember the term "reflector" used back then which would be in the 1982 to 1985 or maybe 1986 timeframe. Even the years could be wrong but I just have to remember by what projects I worked on in those days. 73, phil, K7PEH On Jun 11, 2013, at 5:31 AM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote: > Brendon, > > It is not that Elecraft has set it up that way, but all reflectors using mailman.qth.net behave the same way. > I 'cut my teeth' on reflectors that work as mailman.qth.net does and think that those who do it the other way around (such as Yahoo Groups) are 'backwards'. > > I believe the the convention used by mailman.qth.net is much older than other groups that have switched the order for replying. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 6/11/2013 12:56 AM, Brendon Whateley wrote: >> Elecraft sets up the mail list in a somewhat unusual way. (Why do hams call it a reflector?) The normal way is to rewrite the reply-to header so that REPLY goes back to the list without the need for Reply All and an extra copy to the previous sender. >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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To reply to a post on the reflector using Firefox, I click on the email
address of [hidden email] which brings up a blank email page, apart from the "To" address being filled in. I then copy the title of the post thread and paste it into the Subject line and then type in the text I want to add. It all seems relatively crude with Firefox as it only offers a reply direct to that post's writer's registered email address. Sometimes I forget and reply only to the post writer with a comment/help/suggestion, but as reflectors have been around a while, I see no easier way of responding. I like to see the complete list of posts as the reflector displays them, so I can pick and choose what I look at. I've never really come to terms with the other forms of reflector, like Nabble et al, because they always seem to want to pre-filter stuff. Maybe I've missed a point or two, but I do like reading through the list of posts and when I run a program like Spybot or CCleaner and it removes the highlighting on posts I've read, I get quite ticked off about it, but never seem to be able to muster the mental capacity to make a note of where I've read up to, before doing a bit of housekeeping, which reminds me, a backup is long overdue. I'm sure the OT's like me can identify with the daily fog I try to work in Hi! 73 Dave G3TJP ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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In reply to this post by Iain MacDonnell - N6ML-2
Actually, he isn't using an email program at all. He seems to be
reading it on a third party web archive. Such archives are either intended to be read-only (after all, they are only there to attract you to the advertising), or there will be a method of replying specific to the archive. They are not the reflector, but something that captures the output of the reflector. Replying properly to anything on such an archive, using an email program is actually technically rather difficult, as most modern email programs do not allow you to manually set the In-Reply-To header, which is needed for the threading, shown in the image, to work properly. The screen shot also doesn't show the Message-ID header, whose value you would have to copy into the In-Reply-To header. The only hope would be if the archive itself provides an email reply option, where they actually originate the email, which is what I believe another third party archive, Nabble, does. You would have to ask the people running the current archive whether they provide that service. Another reply also seems to be confusing an archive with the actual reflector. The reflector is just a bit of software that re-broadcasts the email to everyone on the list. Incidentally, JPG is not a good format for most screen shots. PNG is a much better choice. -- David Woolley Registered owner of K2 06123 iain macdonnell - N6ML wrote: > > Typically you would just use the "Reply" button in your email client > when viewing the message, and the necessary headers would be included > to link to the existing thread .... but it looks like you are using > Microsoft Outlook, so logic may not prevail ;) > On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Arno Dienhart <[hidden email]> wrote: >> I am sure it is super easy, but I seem to be blind to the solution. How can >> I reply on the reflector to a specific post within a thread? >> >> >> >> I am in the mail-archive.com/elecraft. site, looking at a post, seeing the >> threaded view of all the other posts. I have a screen print of what I see >> here: >> <http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/Sharpshooter1/HAM%20Radio/reflector_zps2430ecf0.jpg> >> -- David Woolley Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. RFC1855 says there should be an address here, but, in a world of spam, that is no longer good advice, as archive address hiding may not work. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
Re: How to reply to specific post on the reflector?
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That's correct, David. I may be reading the posts on the
mail-archive.com/elecraft site, from where I can also respond (copying/pasting the subject line after clicking on the link behind "Post:", over the threaded view and the buttons. That will open an Outlook Send Message window. Or I receive a copy sent to my email address, then I can respond through Outlook. Both ways appear to position my post correctly in the thread, under the relevant post and indented. Like this one (I hope-but I cannot find your post in the thread right now...) Arno -----Original Message----- From: David Woolley [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 17:06 To: iain macdonnell - N6ML Cc: Arno Dienhart; [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] How to reply to specific post on the reflector? Actually, he isn't using an email program at all. He seems to be reading it on a third party web archive. Such archives are either intended to be read-only (after all, they are only there to attract you to the advertising), or there will be a method of replying specific to the archive. They are not the reflector, but something that captures the output of the reflector. Replying properly to anything on such an archive, using an email program is actually technically rather difficult, as most modern email programs do not allow you to manually set the In-Reply-To header, which is needed for the threading, shown in the image, to work properly. The screen shot also doesn't show the Message-ID header, whose value you would have to copy into the In-Reply-To header. The only hope would be if the archive itself provides an email reply option, where they actually originate the email, which is what I believe another third party archive, Nabble, does. You would have to ask the people running the current archive whether they provide that service. Another reply also seems to be confusing an archive with the actual reflector. The reflector is just a bit of software that re-broadcasts the email to everyone on the list. Incidentally, JPG is not a good format for most screen shots. PNG is a much better choice. -- David Woolley Registered owner of K2 06123 iain macdonnell - N6ML wrote: > > Typically you would just use the "Reply" button in your email client > when viewing the message, and the necessary headers would be included > to link to the existing thread .... but it looks like you are using > Microsoft Outlook, so logic may not prevail ;) > On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Arno Dienhart <[hidden email]> wrote: >> I am sure it is super easy, but I seem to be blind to the solution. >> How can I reply on the reflector to a specific post within a thread? >> >> >> >> I am in the mail-archive.com/elecraft. site, looking at a post, >> seeing the threaded view of all the other posts. I have a screen >> print of what I see >> here: >> <http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e363/Sharpshooter1/HAM%20Radio/ref >> lector_zps2430ecf0.jpg> >> -- David Woolley Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. RFC1855 says there should be an address here, but, in a world of spam, that is no longer good advice, as archive address hiding may not work. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
Re: How to reply to specific post on the reflector?
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In reply to this post by Brendon Whateley
On Jun 11, 2013, at 12:56 33AM, Brendon Whateley <[hidden email]> wrote: > Elecraft sets up the mail list in a somewhat unusual way. > The normal way is to rewrite the reply-to header so that REPLY goes back to the list without the need for Reply All and an extra copy to the previous sender. I disagree that this is "unusual". In fact, given the Reply options available in modern e-mail clients (as Don has shown with Thunderbird, for instance), what you call "the normal way" perverts the options the user sees in his/her client. Basically, the English language should prevail. "Reply" clearly refers to the sender, not the medium. "Reply All" means exactly what it says. I hope the list moderator will keep it just the way it is. Too many impolitic e-mails intended for a single individual have received bulk distribution via reflectors set up so that "Reply" sends it to the group. Bud, W2RU ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 10:24:57 -0400, W2RU - Bud Hippisley wrote:
> Basically, the English language should prevail. "Reply" clearly refers to the sender, not the medium. "Reply All" means exactly what it says. I hope the list moderator will keep it just the way it is. <eoa>This is dead wrong and impolite. The originator asked THE GROUP, and the reply need to go to the group. There is no reason to assume that the originator is the only person who wants to hear the answer. Otherwise, the list would operate in such a way that when you subscribe, you receive a listing of those who are also subscribed. You pick a call who you think might know the answer to your question and send them a personal note and he replies back to you. Pretty stupid isn't it. Even if you think it is a dumb question that you have to ask, I guarantee you that there is someone like you who also doesn't know the answer and didn't post the question but is anxiously waiting for someone to answer it so he will know too. This list owner happens to want it this way (apparently), so we have to put up with it. > Too many impolitic e-mails intended for a single individual have received bulk distribution via reflectors set up so that "Reply" sends it to the group. That's part of the group environment and public sharing of information. Do you read the paper to see one item only? No, you read the paper to see what is new and what is interesting. Ever pick up the paper and see something that surprised you and you were glad you saw it? That's what groups/lists are for. You cheat everyone else out of the answer and also future searchers for information are deprived of having the answers to their questions by not allowing the answers to be public. </eoa> Gary -- http://ag0n.net 3055: http://ag0n.net/irlp/3055 NodeOp Help Page: http://ag0n.net/irlp ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
Re: How to reply to specific post on the reflector?
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On 6/21/2013 11:00 AM, AG0N-3055 wrote: > <eoa>This is dead wrong and impolite. The originator asked THE GROUP, > and the reply need to go to the group. There is no reason to assume > that the originator is the only person who wants to hear the answer. You are dead wrong and obviously have no appreciation for e-mail distribution lists other than in the socialized world of Yahoo, Google and those who emulate them. In the *real world* relies always go to the sender of the e-mail and it is impolite to copy the entire world unless everyone has a direct need to know the information. Copying 5,000 e-mail addresses to say "thanks for your opinion, Bub" is absurd. Quality e-mail software generally offers three replay options: reply (reply to the sender) is the default but Reply to all is generally available which replies to everyone appearing in the header of the e-mail, sender, addressee, and all those listed as CC:, some of the better e-mail clients (e.g. Thunderbird) even recognize most mail list (and groupware) senders and provide a "Reply to List" option which directs the reply back to the list server for distribution. Rewriting the "reply to:" address to point to the list defeats all of the options built into the e-mail client and forces an unwanted "social entitlement" on list participants. It is the responsibility (and right) of the person responding to a post to determine if his replies go to everyone on the list, the individual who wrote the post being replied to, or some other combination of addressees. It is not your right as a *third party* participant in the list to demand access to the thoughts of everyone else reading the list. > That's part of the group environment and public sharing of > information. Do you read the paper to see one item only? No, you read > the paper to see what is new and what is interesting. When you read the newspaper or watch MSNBC do you expect to see all of the reporter's notes and all the communication between the reporter and his/her editor? Of course not, you see what the reporter/writer wants to *allow* you to see and nothing else unless someone has made a mistake and released a story early or some "leaker" has released documents that they were not entitled (authorized) to release. You don't have a say in the matter - either get over it or red the National Enquirer instead of the Scottsbluff Star-Herald. Frankly, I'm tired of the periodic complaints about the way this list is configured. It is configured correctly as benefits a reasonable, professionally operated e-mail service and should remain that way rather than emulate the worst systems like Google and Yahoo's mail lists. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 6/21/2013 11:00 AM, AG0N-3055 wrote: > <eoa>This is dead wrong and impolite. The originator asked THE GROUP, > and the reply need to go to the group. There is no reason to assume > that the originator is the only person who wants to hear the answer. > Otherwise, the list would operate in such a way that when you subscribe, > you receive a listing of those who are also subscribed. You pick a call > who you think might know the answer to your question and send them a > personal note and he replies back to you. Pretty stupid isn't it. Even > if you think it is a dumb question that you have to ask, I guarantee you > that there is someone like you who also doesn't know the answer and > didn't post the question but is anxiously waiting for someone to answer > it so he will know too. > > This list owner happens to want it this way (apparently), so we have to > put up with it. > >> Too many impolitic e-mails intended for a single individual have received bulk distribution via reflectors set up so that "Reply" sends it to the group. > > That's part of the group environment and public sharing of information. > Do you read the paper to see one item only? No, you read the paper to > see what is new and what is interesting. Ever pick up the paper and see > something that surprised you and you were glad you saw it? That's what > groups/lists are for. You cheat everyone else out of the answer and > also future searchers for information are deprived of having the answers > to their questions by not allowing the answers to be public. > > </eoa> > > Gary > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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