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briancom

How to unsubscribe from reflector?

How do we delete K3KO (SK) from the Elecraft reflector? There's no way
to know Brian's password. Spouse would appreciate help with this.
Thanks, Bert N4CW

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Re: How to unsubscribe from reflector?

Did either of you try the password reminder option?
http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/options/elecraft

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How do we delete K3KO (SK) from the Elecraft reflector? There's no way
to know Brian's password. Spouse would appreciate help with this.
Thanks, Bert N4CW

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ke9uw

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Maybe do a “lost my password “ and receive a password reset on his email account...
If you know the password for that.

Chuck Jack
KE9UW

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> On Dec 29, 2018, at 11:29 AM, brian <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> How do we delete K3KO (SK) from the Elecraft reflector? There's no way to know Brian's password. Spouse would appreciate help with this.
> Thanks, Bert N4CW
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W2xj

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If he was anything like me the password reminder would be useless to anyone else.

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> On Dec 29, 2018, at 1:06 PM, <[hidden email]> <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> Did either of you try the password reminder option?
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/options/elecraft
>
> John KK9A
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>
> N4CW wrote
>
> How do we delete K3KO (SK) from the Elecraft reflector? There's no way
> to know Brian's password. Spouse would appreciate help with this.
> Thanks, Bert N4CW
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Pete Lascell-2

Re: How to unsubscribe from reflector?

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Does your mail handler allow you to automaticly DELETE any messages coming from a specific address ?

Pete W4WWQ

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Maybe do a “lost my password “ and receive a password reset on his email account...
If you know the password for that.

Chuck Jack
KE9UW

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Maybe do a “lost my password “ and receive a password reset on his email account...
If you know the password for that.

Chuck Jack
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Bob McGraw - K4TAX

Re: How to unsubscribe from reflector?

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I have a small COMPOSITION notebook by my computer.   It contains all of
the USER and PASSWORD information for every account I use. Each page is
designated for a user site and there is plenty of room to write down the
current password for that account.   And I do change passwords
frequently.     I do not use a "password vault" nor do I allow Google or
any other application to "remember" my passwords.

It may be slow and a bit archaic, but it is secure and that book never
forgets a password nor does it ever crash.

73

Bob, K4TAX

On 12/29/2018 12:16 PM, W2xj wrote:

> If he was anything like me the password reminder would be useless to anyone else.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Dec 29, 2018, at 1:06 PM, <[hidden email]> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Did either of you try the password reminder option?
>> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/options/elecraft
>>
>> John KK9A
>>
>>
>> N4CW wrote
>>
>> How do we delete K3KO (SK) from the Elecraft reflector? There's no way
>> to know Brian's password. Spouse would appreciate help with this.
>> Thanks, Bert N4CW
>>
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john@kk9a.com

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While I have not tried it, I cannot imagine that it is difficult to figure
out a password that is emailed to you.

John

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] How to unsubscribe from reflector?

If he was anything like me the password reminder would be useless to anyone
else.

Sent from my iPad

W2xj

Re: How to unsubscribe from reflector?

But you have to know the challenge answer to get a password (usually a temporary one).

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> On Dec 29, 2018, at 1:30 PM, <[hidden email]> <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> While I have not tried it, I cannot imagine that it is difficult to figure
> out a password that is emailed to you.
>
> John
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2018 1:16 PM
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> If he was anything like me the password reminder would be useless to anyone
> else.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Dec 29, 2018, at 1:06 PM, <[hidden email]> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Did either of you try the password reminder option?
>> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/options/elecraft
>>
>> John KK9A
>>
>>
>> N4CW wrote
>>
>> How do we delete K3KO (SK) from the Elecraft reflector? There's no way
>> to know Brian's password. Spouse would appreciate help with this.
>> Thanks, Bert N4CW
>>
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W2xj

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Any security expert will tell you how insecure that is. In some companies that would be cause for termination.

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> On Dec 29, 2018, at 1:30 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I have a small COMPOSITION notebook by my computer. It contains all of the USER and PASSWORD information for every account I use. Each page is designated for a user site and there is plenty of room to write down the current password for that account. And I do change passwords frequently. I do not use a "password vault" nor do I allow Google or any other application to "remember" my passwords.
>
> It may be slow and a bit archaic, but it is secure and that book never forgets a password nor does it ever crash.
>
> 73
>
> Bob, K4TAX
>
>
>
>> On 12/29/2018 12:16 PM, W2xj wrote:
>> If he was anything like me the password reminder would be useless to anyone else.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On Dec 29, 2018, at 1:06 PM, <[hidden email]> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Did either of you try the password reminder option?
>>> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/options/elecraft
>>>
>>> John KK9A
>>>
>>>
>>> N4CW wrote
>>>
>>> How do we delete K3KO (SK) from the Elecraft reflector? There's no way
>>> to know Brian's password. Spouse would appreciate help with this.
>>> Thanks, Bert N4CW
>>>
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Don Wilhelm

Re: How to unsubscribe from reflector?

I use a program called Password Keeper. I don't know if it is current
nor the best, but it works for me. It is password protected (so you do
have to remember one password), and the data file is encripted.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/29/2018 1:51 PM, W2xj wrote:
> Any security expert will tell you how insecure that is. In some companies that would be cause for termination.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Dec 29, 2018, at 1:30 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> I have a small COMPOSITION notebook by my computer. It contains all of the USER and PASSWORD information for every account I use. Each page is designated for a user site and there is plenty of room to write down the current password for that account. And I do change passwords frequently. I do not use a "password vault" nor do I allow Google or any other application to "remember" my passwords.
>>
>> It may be slow and a bit archaic, but it is secure and that book never forgets a password nor does it ever crash.
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W2xj

Re: How to unsubscribe from reflector?

I use biometrics. Facial on my iPhone and fingerprint on my iPad until I upgrade to the Pro.

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> On Dec 29, 2018, at 2:16 PM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I use a program called Password Keeper. I don't know if it is current nor the best, but it works for me. It is password protected (so you do have to remember one password), and the data file is encripted.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
>> On 12/29/2018 1:51 PM, W2xj wrote:
>> Any security expert will tell you how insecure that is. In some companies that would be cause for termination.
>> Sent from my iPad
>>> On Dec 29, 2018, at 1:30 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have a small COMPOSITION notebook by my computer. It contains all of the USER and PASSWORD information for every account I use. Each page is designated for a user site and there is plenty of room to write down the current password for that account. And I do change passwords frequently. I do not use a "password vault" nor do I allow Google or any other application to "remember" my passwords.
>>>
>>> It may be slow and a bit archaic, but it is secure and that book never forgets a password nor does it ever crash.
>

Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT-3

Re: How to unsubscribe from reflector?

Pretty sure this will work.

Go to: <http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft>

Near the bottom of that page is a button that says "unsubscribe or edit
options" -- put the E-Mail address to be removed there.

That will send an E-Mail with a link.

Click on the link and the address will be removed. A password probably
isn't necessary (it's optional, I don't have one).

It's secure because someone has to receive the E-Mail.

73 -- Lynn
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Bill Frantz

Re: How to unsubscribe from reflector?

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Actually, a number of security experts, including Bruce
Schneier, recommend writing your passwords down and keeping the
list in a safe place. We are quite good at securing pieces of
paper, like currency, and things learned under NDA. We are much
poorer at securing things accessed through the Internet or
resident on our computers.

73 Bill AE6JV

On 12/29/18 at 10:51 AM, [hidden email] (W2xj) wrote:

>Any security expert will tell you how insecure that is. In some
>companies that would be cause for termination.
>Sent from my iPad
>
>>On Dec 29, 2018, at 1:30 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>I have a small COMPOSITION notebook by my computer. It contains all of the USER
>and PASSWORD information for every account I use. Each page is
>designated for a user site and there is plenty of room to write
>down the current password for that account. And I do change
>passwords frequently. I do not use a "password vault" nor
>do I allow Google or any other application to "remember" my passwords.
>>
>>It may be slow and a bit archaic, but it is secure and that book never forgets a
>password nor does it ever crash.
>>
>>73
>>
>>Bob, K4TAX

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k6dgw

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However, should your computer become compromised, your COMPOSITION
notebook is then available to the thief. I do the same thing in a text
file but then encrypt the file and delete the plain text file. My home
brew encryption program will open the file and display the contents, and
allow me to change them, however when it saves the file, it is
re-encrypted. I wouldn't recommend storing such data in clear text on
the computer.

73,
Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 12/29/2018 10:30 AM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:

> I have a small COMPOSITION notebook by my computer.   It contains all
> of the USER and PASSWORD information for every account I use. Each
> page is designated for a user site and there is plenty of room to
> write down the current password for that account.   And I do change
> passwords frequently.     I do not use a "password vault" nor do I
> allow Google or any other application to "remember" my passwords.
>
> It may be slow and a bit archaic, but it is secure and that book never
> forgets a password nor does it ever crash.
>
> 73
>
> Bob, K4TAX

W2xj

Re: How to unsubscribe from reflector?

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Work for most large media companies worth billions and writing down passwords will have security escorting you out of the building, a lost pension and a major followup security investigation.

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 29, 2018, at 6:02 PM, Bill Frantz <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Actually, a number of security experts, including Bruce Schneier, recommend writing your passwords down and keeping the list in a safe place. We are quite good at securing pieces of paper, like currency, and things learned under NDA. We are much poorer at securing things accessed through the Internet or resident on our computers.
>
> 73 Bill AE6JV
>
>> On 12/29/18 at 10:51 AM, [hidden email] (W2xj) wrote:
>>
>> Any security expert will tell you how insecure that is. In some companies that would be cause for termination.
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On Dec 29, 2018, at 1:30 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have a small COMPOSITION notebook by my computer. It contains all of the USER
>> and PASSWORD information for every account I use. Each page is designated for a user site and there is plenty of room to write down the current password for that account. And I do change passwords frequently. I do not use a "password vault" nor do I allow Google or any other application to "remember" my passwords.
>>>
>>> It may be slow and a bit archaic, but it is secure and that book never forgets a
>> password nor does it ever crash.
>>>
>>> 73
>>>
>>> Bob, K4TAX
>
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Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT-3

Re: How to unsubscribe from reflector?

Yet putting all your passwords in a globally accessible password manager
seems to be acceptable to most people, if not everyone.

Go figure.

73 -- Lynn

On 12/29/2018 4:04 PM, W2xj wrote:
> Work for most large media companies worth billions and writing down passwords will have security escorting you out of the building, a lost pension and a major followup security investigation.
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Actually that is not what is usually done. Biometrics and tokens are quite common. No matter how you handle them, passwords are dangerous. Mine are encrypted on my machines and accessed via biometrics.

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> On Dec 29, 2018, at 9:00 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Yet putting all your passwords in a globally accessible password manager seems to be acceptable to most people, if not everyone.
>
> Go figure.
>
> 73 -- Lynn
>
>> On 12/29/2018 4:04 PM, W2xj wrote:
>> Work for most large media companies worth billions and writing down passwords will have security escorting you out of the building, a lost pension and a major followup security investigation.
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Yes, I worked in the corporate world for some 30+ years.   I'm familiar
with corporate security policy.   However, this is ham radio. It is a
hobby. And the biggest bonus of all........I'm retired therefore I
can't be fired.   I no longer have to concern myself with some measly
back stabbing Vice President working his way up the Corporate ladder.

73

Bob, K4TAX

On 12/29/2018 5:02 PM, Bill Frantz wrote:

> Actually, a number of security experts, including Bruce Schneier,
> recommend writing your passwords down and keeping the list in a safe
> place. We are quite good at securing pieces of paper, like currency,
> and things learned under NDA. We are much poorer at securing things
> accessed through the Internet or resident on our computers.
>
> 73 Bill AE6JV
>
> On 12/29/18 at 10:51 AM, [hidden email] (W2xj) wrote:
>
>> Any security expert will tell you how insecure that is. In some
>> companies that would be cause for termination.
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On Dec 29, 2018, at 1:30 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX <[hidden email]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have a small COMPOSITION notebook by my computer.   It contains
>>> all of the USER
>> and PASSWORD information for every account I use. Each page is
>> designated for a user site and there is plenty of room to write down
>> the current password for that account.   And I do change passwords
>> frequently.     I do not use a "password vault" nor do I allow Google
>> or any other application to "remember" my passwords.
>>>
>>> It may be slow and a bit archaic, but it is secure and that book
>>> never forgets a
>> password nor does it ever crash.
>>>
>>> 73
>>>
>>> Bob, K4TAX
>
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David Woolley (E.L)

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On 30/12/2018 00:04, W2xj wrote:
> Work for most large media companies worth billions and writing down passwords will have security escorting you out of the building, a lost pension and a major followup security investigation.

Passwords have become unworkable as a security measure.

Too many sites need them, and some of those will get compromised,leaking
your password;

Using a different one for each site means it is difficult to remember
them all;

Rules that you must not write them down result in the same password
being used across both well secured and poorly secured servers.

Rules that passwords be changed frequently, combined with the need to
have many different passwords, results in weak passwords, as inventing
good ones, that are different form other people's, is difficult.

Any organisation where security is important should not be relying
solely on passwords.

On the original subject, most technical mailing lists obey the
convention that mail to <listname>-owner@<domain> will go to a human
administrator (I would say that any well managed list should do this).
Failing that, many will forward anything not understood to a human (or
reply with help saying how to contact a human) if mail is sent to
<listname>-request@<domain> and doesn't contain a valid list command.

Most such lists also have a number of guidance links in the message
headers, e.g., for this list:

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Re: How to unsubscribe from reflector?

I use Password Safe by Bruce Schneier. It secures your passwords in a LOCAL
file, not on the cloud, encrypted, and has a generator in it for creating
the idiotically-complex passwords some systems require (upper and lower
case, at least one of a set of special characters, at least one number,
12-20 characters long, yada yada...), and it's FREE. You can even get it on
a preinstalled authenticator token such as the Yubikey.

https://pwsafe.org/

73,
Gwen, NG3P

On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 7:53 AM David Woolley <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> On 30/12/2018 00:04, W2xj wrote:
> > Work for most large media companies worth billions and writing down
> passwords will have security escorting you out of the building, a lost
> pension and a major followup security investigation.
>
> Passwords have become unworkable as a security measure.
>
> Too many sites need them, and some of those will get compromised,leaking
> your password;
>
> Using a different one for each site means it is difficult to remember
> them all;
>
> Rules that you must not write them down result in the same password
> being used across both well secured and poorly secured servers.
>
> Rules that passwords be changed frequently, combined with the need to
> have many different passwords, results in weak passwords, as inventing
> good ones, that are different form other people's, is difficult.
>
> Any organisation where security is important should not be relying
> solely on passwords.
>
> On the original subject, most technical mailing lists obey the
> convention that mail to <listname>-owner@<domain> will go to a human
> administrator (I would say that any well managed list should do this).
> Failing that, many will forward anything not understood to a human (or
> reply with help saying how to contact a human) if mail is sent to
> <listname>-request@<domain> and doesn't contain a valid list command.
>
> Most such lists also have a number of guidance links in the message
> headers, e.g., for this list:
>
> List-Unsubscribe: <http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/options/elecraft>,
> <mailto:[hidden email]?subject=unsubscribe>
> List-Archive: <http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/elecraft/>
> List-Post: <mailto:[hidden email]>
> List-Help: <mailto:[hidden email]?subject=help>
> List-Subscribe: <http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft>,
> <mailto:[hidden email]?subject=subscribe>
>
> Amongst other things, the help reply says you can send this to the
> -request address:
>
> unsubscribe [password] [address=<address>]
> Unsubscribe from the mailing list. If given, your password
> must match
> your current password. If omitted, a confirmation email will
> be sent
> to the unsubscribing address. If you wish to unsubscribe an
> address
> other than the address you sent this request from, you may specify
> `address=<address>' (no brackets around the email address, and no
> quotes!)
>
>
> This does rely on the subscribing address being still valid, but if it
> is not, the mail bounces should eventually get the subscription
> terminated, automatically.
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