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There is only one thing that will save me from transmitting on the wrong VFO. That is an
option for an indicator, preferably a full-height vertical line, on the P3 display which shows the TRANSMIT frequency. Then, since my eyes are usually on the P3, I will KNOW for sure that I have really entered SPLIT when I think I have. Not to mention placing the VFO precisely in a pileup, etc. I'll admit that I turned the radio off in disgust and went to read a book after I forgot that I'd left QRQ on and inadvertently defeated SPLIT. I called for quite a while, carefully tuning the subreceiver to the correct frequency, but getting no results. Maybe I'm too old to be trusted with a K3 (hey, my wife won't let me ride a motorcycle anymore either). -- Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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On 3/15/2011 5:47 AM, Vic K2VCO wrote:
> Maybe I'm too old to be trusted with a K3 (hey, my wife won't let me ride a motorcycle > anymore either). > Andrea won't let me climb my tower either ... like I actually could :-) I must be really missing some "features" in my K3, I'm not having any of these problems with transmitting on one frequency and listening on another. Other than some AGC settings and TX EQ settings I got from K9YC, I pretty much run it "out of the box." I haven't been arrested by the DX Cops -- yet -- I seem to be able to work the DX in split mode [occasionally, I call more than I work], and my KUSB "thingy" works just fine with N1MM, K3 Utility, and K3_EZ. I'm beginning to wonder if I'm missing something. Maybe I need the second receiver. 73, Fred K6DGW Auburn CA ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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You are just a good operator but I sometimes do forget that I have not changed my TX over to VFO B even though VFO B has been set up 5 kHz. This is why I need the P3 to place a stick of dynamite in a private place and light it when I attempt to transmit on a DX station. Maybe a flashing or more distinct VFO B cursor indication for when it is chosen for TX would help. Flashing beats red for me as I am partially colour blind. This is not a P3 fault but an operator fault and an old man looking for extra help. God, I hate making this mistake. The radio is not at fault the operator is, mea maxima culpa. 73 Doug EI2CN -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of FredJensen Sent: 15 March 2011 08:01 To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] I did it again! On 3/15/2011 5:47 AM, Vic K2VCO wrote: > Maybe I'm too old to be trusted with a K3 (hey, my wife won't let me ride a motorcycle > anymore either). > Andrea won't let me climb my tower either ... like I actually could :-) I must be really missing some "features" in my K3, I'm not having any of these problems with transmitting on one frequency and listening on another. Other than some AGC settings and TX EQ settings I got from K9YC, I pretty much run it "out of the box." I haven't been arrested by the DX Cops -- yet -- I seem to be able to work the DX in split mode [occasionally, I call more than I work], and my KUSB "thingy" works just fine with N1MM, K3 Utility, and K3_EZ. I'm beginning to wonder if I'm missing something. Maybe I need the second receiver. 73, Fred K6DGW Auburn CA ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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*Hey Guys'
My wife just confirmed to me...'You are not allowed to walk and chew gum at the same time' Personally, I think it's a plot..she has a call too :-( And you think you have issues? :-) 73's Gary * On 15 March 2011 19:19, Doug Turnbull <[hidden email]> wrote: > Fred, > You are just a good operator but I sometimes do forget that I have not > changed my TX over to VFO B even though VFO B has been set up 5 kHz. This > is why I need the P3 to place a stick of dynamite in a private place and > light it when I attempt to transmit on a DX station. Maybe a flashing or > more distinct VFO B cursor indication for when it is chosen for TX would > help. Flashing beats red for me as I am partially colour blind. This is > not a P3 fault but an operator fault and an old man looking for extra help. > God, I hate making this mistake. The radio is not at fault the operator > is, mea maxima culpa. > > 73 Doug EI2CN > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of FredJensen > Sent: 15 March 2011 08:01 > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] I did it again! > > On 3/15/2011 5:47 AM, Vic K2VCO wrote: > > Maybe I'm too old to be trusted with a K3 (hey, my wife won't let me ride > a motorcycle > > anymore either). > > > Andrea won't let me climb my tower either ... like I actually could :-) > > I must be really missing some "features" in my K3, I'm not having any of > these problems with transmitting on one frequency and listening on > another. Other than some AGC settings and TX EQ settings I got from > K9YC, I pretty much run it "out of the box." I haven't been arrested by > the DX Cops -- yet -- I seem to be able to work the DX in split mode > [occasionally, I call more than I work], and my KUSB "thingy" works > just fine with N1MM, K3 Utility, and K3_EZ. I'm beginning to wonder if > I'm missing something. Maybe I need the second receiver. > > 73, > > Fred K6DGW > Auburn CA > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > -- *VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile Elecraft Equipment K3 #679, KPA-500 #018 Living the dream!!!* ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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It's several things.
One problem is that I watch the P3, so I don't notice the delta TX indicator on the K3. Another is that I do use the second rx, and my brain seems to think that if I am hearing the pileup in my right ear then that's where I'm going to transmit. And the third (which is what made me a lid last night) is that if I forget I'm in QRQ mode then SPLIT does not activate. I've asked for a vertical line on the P3 that would display the TX frequency. That would save me, but wouldn't help those without a P3. I've also suggested that SPLIT should override QRQ, or that there could be an MN command that could be put in a macro to reliably turn off QRQ and allow SPLIT. On 3/15/2011 1:00 AM, FredJensen wrote: > On 3/15/2011 5:47 AM, Vic K2VCO wrote: >> Maybe I'm too old to be trusted with a K3 (hey, my wife won't let me ride a motorcycle >> anymore either). >> > Andrea won't let me climb my tower either ... like I actually could :-) > > I must be really missing some "features" in my K3, I'm not having any of > these problems with transmitting on one frequency and listening on > another. Other than some AGC settings and TX EQ settings I got from > K9YC, I pretty much run it "out of the box." I haven't been arrested by > the DX Cops -- yet -- I seem to be able to work the DX in split mode > [occasionally, I call more than I work], and my KUSB "thingy" works > just fine with N1MM, K3 Utility, and K3_EZ. I'm beginning to wonder if > I'm missing something. Maybe I need the second receiver. > > 73, > > Fred K6DGW > Auburn CA -- Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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We'll work with you on these issues, Vic.
Wayne N6KR On Mar 15, 2011, at 8:28 AM, Vic K2VCO wrote: > It's several things. > > One problem is that I watch the P3, so I don't notice the delta TX > indicator on the K3. > > Another is that I do use the second rx, and my brain seems to think > that if I am hearing > the pileup in my right ear then that's where I'm going to transmit. > > And the third (which is what made me a lid last night) is that if I > forget I'm in QRQ mode > then SPLIT does not activate. > > I've asked for a vertical line on the P3 that would display the TX > frequency. That would > save me, but wouldn't help those without a P3. > > I've also suggested that SPLIT should override QRQ, or that there > could be an MN command > that could be put in a macro to reliably turn off QRQ and allow SPLIT. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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> "And the third (which is what made me a lid last night) is that if I
> forget I'm in QRQ mode then SPLIT does not activate." Don't feel too bad, Vic. I've done that myself. The K3's macros make the entire split operation so easy that I've become complacent and just assume I'm on the right Tx frequency in QRQ mode. I now make it a point to look at the Tx indicator after engaging the macro. I guess I should set up another macro just for QRQ, although I've not yet looked to see if that's a command available in a macro. Paul, W9AC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vic K2VCO" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 11:28 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] I did it again! > It's several things. > > One problem is that I watch the P3, so I don't notice the delta TX > indicator on the K3. > > Another is that I do use the second rx, and my brain seems to think that > if I am hearing > the pileup in my right ear then that's where I'm going to transmit. > > And the third (which is what made me a lid last night) is that if I forget > I'm in QRQ mode > then SPLIT does not activate. > > I've asked for a vertical line on the P3 that would display the TX > frequency. That would > save me, but wouldn't help those without a P3. > > I've also suggested that SPLIT should override QRQ, or that there could be > an MN command > that could be put in a macro to reliably turn off QRQ and allow SPLIT. > > On 3/15/2011 1:00 AM, FredJensen wrote: >> On 3/15/2011 5:47 AM, Vic K2VCO wrote: >>> Maybe I'm too old to be trusted with a K3 (hey, my wife won't let me >>> ride a motorcycle >>> anymore either). >>> >> Andrea won't let me climb my tower either ... like I actually could :-) >> >> I must be really missing some "features" in my K3, I'm not having any of >> these problems with transmitting on one frequency and listening on >> another. Other than some AGC settings and TX EQ settings I got from >> K9YC, I pretty much run it "out of the box." I haven't been arrested by >> the DX Cops -- yet -- I seem to be able to work the DX in split mode >> [occasionally, I call more than I work], and my KUSB "thingy" works >> just fine with N1MM, K3 Utility, and K3_EZ. I'm beginning to wonder if >> I'm missing something. Maybe I need the second receiver. >> >> 73, >> >> Fred K6DGW >> Auburn CA > > > -- > Vic, K2VCO > Fresno CA > http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Paul hit the nail on the head. The K3 makes it easier to operate split,
especially with appropriate macros. I don't think the K3 makes it any more likely to transmit on the wrong frequency than does any other radio. I'm a pretty good op but I've made the "UP UP UP mistake" occasionally for 50 years now, with many, very different rigs. I'm embarrassed when it happens and then I get over it. Yes, Elecraft can improve the P3 to make operation easier, more convenient and maybe even less error-prone for some ops. But there is no way a radio can eliminate all operator mistakes. Vic, you can stop kicking yourself. You quickly realized the mistake and corrected it. Lids don't. /Rick On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Paul Christensen <[hidden email]> wrote: > The K3's macros make the > entire split operation so easy that I've become complacent and just assume > I'm on the right Tx frequency in QRQ mode. I now make it a point to look > at > the Tx indicator after engaging the macro. I guess I should set up another > macro just for QRQ, although I've not yet looked to see if that's a command > available in a macro. > > -- Rick Tavan N6XI Truckee, CA ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Me too!
I monitor the DX with the MAIN Rcvr, the pileup with the SUB Rcvr, find the right spot to call, very slick, and forget to push the SPLIT button. I get chastised by the DX Fuzz, and THEN I push the SPLIT button. Never fails! Eric VA7DZ On 15/03/11 9:00 AM, [hidden email] wrote: > Send Elecraft mailing list submissions to > [hidden email] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [hidden email] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [hidden email] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Elecraft digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: I did it again! (Doug Turnbull) > 2. Re: I did it again! (Gary Gregory) > 3. K3 re kdvr not playing back (Mike Rodgers) > 4. Aid to Japan (AB8XA) > 5. [K2 ] RF Out/DC power Issues (Eugene Balinski) > 6. OT - Vertical Bug (stan levandowski) > 7. Re: I did it again! (Vic K2VCO) > 8. Re: I did it again! (Wayne Burdick) > 9. Re: I did it again! (Paul Christensen) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 09:19:55 -0000 > From: "Doug Turnbull"<[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] I did it again! > To: "'FredJensen'"<[hidden email]>, <[hidden email]> > Message-ID:<99513EC7CFC842999351CB0D0F2D07A6@DOUG1> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Fred, > You are just a good operator but I sometimes do forget that I have not > changed my TX over to VFO B even though VFO B has been set up 5 kHz. This > is why I need the P3 to place a stick of dynamite in a private place and > light it when I attempt to transmit on a DX station. Maybe a flashing or > more distinct VFO B cursor indication for when it is chosen for TX would > help. Flashing beats red for me as I am partially colour blind. This is > not a P3 fault but an operator fault and an old man looking for extra help. > God, I hate making this mistake. The radio is not at fault the operator > is, mea maxima culpa. > > 73 Doug EI2CN > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of FredJensen > Sent: 15 March 2011 08:01 > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] I did it again! > > On 3/15/2011 5:47 AM, Vic K2VCO wrote: >> Maybe I'm too old to be trusted with a K3 (hey, my wife won't let me ride > a motorcycle >> anymore either). >> > Andrea won't let me climb my tower either ... like I actually could :-) > > I must be really missing some "features" in my K3, I'm not having any of > these problems with transmitting on one frequency and listening on > another. Other than some AGC settings and TX EQ settings I got from > K9YC, I pretty much run it "out of the box." I haven't been arrested by > the DX Cops -- yet -- I seem to be able to work the DX in split mode > [occasionally, I call more than I work], and my KUSB "thingy" works > just fine with N1MM, K3 Utility, and K3_EZ. I'm beginning to wonder if > I'm missing something. Maybe I need the second receiver. > > 73, > > Fred K6DGW > Auburn CA > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 19:44:32 +1000 > From: Gary Gregory<[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] I did it again! > To: Doug Turnbull<[hidden email]> > Cc: [hidden email] > Message-ID: > <[hidden email]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > *Hey Guys' > > My wife just confirmed to me...'You are not allowed to walk and chew gum at > the same time' > > Personally, I think it's a plot..she has a call too :-( > > And you think you have issues? > > :-) > > 73's > > Gary > * > On 15 March 2011 19:19, Doug Turnbull<[hidden email]> wrote: > >> Fred, >> You are just a good operator but I sometimes do forget that I have not >> changed my TX over to VFO B even though VFO B has been set up 5 kHz. This >> is why I need the P3 to place a stick of dynamite in a private place and >> light it when I attempt to transmit on a DX station. Maybe a flashing or >> more distinct VFO B cursor indication for when it is chosen for TX would >> help. Flashing beats red for me as I am partially colour blind. This is >> not a P3 fault but an operator fault and an old man looking for extra help. >> God, I hate making this mistake. The radio is not at fault the operator >> is, mea maxima culpa. >> >> 73 Doug EI2CN >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [hidden email] >> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of FredJensen >> Sent: 15 March 2011 08:01 >> To: [hidden email] >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] I did it again! >> >> On 3/15/2011 5:47 AM, Vic K2VCO wrote: >>> Maybe I'm too old to be trusted with a K3 (hey, my wife won't let me ride >> a motorcycle >>> anymore either). >>> >> Andrea won't let me climb my tower either ... like I actually could :-) >> >> I must be really missing some "features" in my K3, I'm not having any of >> these problems with transmitting on one frequency and listening on >> another. Other than some AGC settings and TX EQ settings I got from >> K9YC, I pretty much run it "out of the box." I haven't been arrested by >> the DX Cops -- yet -- I seem to be able to work the DX in split mode >> [occasionally, I call more than I work], and my KUSB "thingy" works >> just fine with N1MM, K3 Utility, and K3_EZ. I'm beginning to wonder if >> I'm missing something. Maybe I need the second receiver. >> >> 73, >> >> Fred K6DGW >> Auburn CA >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> > > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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>I'll admit that I turned the radio off in disgust and went to read a >book after I forgot >that I'd left QRQ on and inadvertently defeated SPLIT. I called for >quite a while, >carefully tuning the subreceiver to the correct frequency, but >getting no results. This behavior has bitten me too. A couple of weeks ago I made a fool of myself on 30 meters by calling several times on the DX station's transmit frequency before noticing Split wasn't on. Reason? I had QRQ CW enabled and in the heat of battle I missed the brief warning message and unfortunately didn't notice the yellow split light right away. I would submit that the priority is reversed for the QRQ function. If Split is engaged while QRQ CW is enabled, the radio should promptly switch to Split and display a "QRQ OFF" message, not inhibit Split because QRQ is on. Not having QRQ on is a minor inconvenience; calling on a DX station's transmit frequency is a major liddism that should be stamped out. The radio should do everything it can to discourage this behavior, and it would seem to me that a simple (? -- I know, a SMOP) change in the QRQ logic would be helpful here. 73... Randy, W8FN ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I'm working on this. QRQ mode will automatically be turned off when
required, and restored afterward (if you had it enabled in the menu). 73, Wayne N6KR On Mar 15, 2011, at 6:03 PM, Randy Farmer wrote: >> If Split is engaged while QRQ CW is enabled, the radio > should promptly switch to Split and display a "QRQ OFF" message, not > inhibit Split because QRQ is on..... ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Yes! The right way to fix it. Thanks, Wayne! I know this isn't simple.
On 3/15/2011 6:13 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > I'm working on this. QRQ mode will automatically be turned off when > required, and restored afterward (if you had it enabled in the menu). > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > On Mar 15, 2011, at 6:03 PM, Randy Farmer wrote: > >>> If Split is engaged while QRQ CW is enabled, the radio >> should promptly switch to Split and display a "QRQ OFF" message, not >> inhibit Split because QRQ is on..... -- Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
Need early adopters for K3 updates (QRQ cancel on SPLIT, FM REV sticky, higher mic preamp gain, APF "tap"...)
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Hi all,
I just gave new K3 code to our field testers (see release notes below). If you have a keen interest in one or more of the changes, please email me and I'll get you a copy, too. 73, Wayne N6KR * * * MCU 4.29 / DSP 2.72, 3-15-2011 * QRQ CW AUTO-OFF ON SPLIT/RIT/XIT: QRQ CW is now automatically turned off whenever you turn on SPLIT, RIT, or XIT. You’ll see "QRQ OFF" flashed on VFO B. QRQ mode is restored if you turn these off. (For QRQ CW details, see Rev. 4.03 notes.) * REVERSE (REV) FOR FM/REPEAT IS PERMANENT: Pressing REV when in FM mode with a repeater offset (+/-) selected now permanently swaps RX/TX frequencies and reverses the repeater offset direction. You do not have to continue to hold the REV switch. * 2-METER MODULE “S9” METER LEVEL ADJUSTED: The “S9” level on the K3’s S-meter now occurs with an input signal level of -93 dBm when the K144XV is selected. (This is a recognized standard on bands from 2 meters up. On other bands, “S9” still occurs at -73 dBm.) Notes: (1) The K3’s S-meter may not go all the way to S0 on this band because of the high preamp gain on the K144XV module. (2) If you have SMTR MD set to NOR, the S-meter reading will vary with the settings of the PRE and ATTN controls. * FRONT PANEL MIC PREAMP GAIN CONTROL: The front panel mic preamp has a high-gain setting that is now accessible. (This is independent the present “mic boost” DSP function.) If you use a low-output mic element, you may benefit from the high-gain setting. In MIC SEL (MAIN menu), use VFO A to select the front-panel mic (FP), then tap ‘7’ on the keypad to select high preamp gain. A “high bar” symbol will appear to the right of the mic boost character (L or H). As a reminder, DSP mic boost (H, or Hi) can be turned on/off by tapping ‘1’ on the keypad. Bias is controlled by ‘2’. * EXTERNAL 10-MHZ REFERENCE SUPPORT (K3EXREF): When the K3EXREF option is installed, the K3 will use it to automatically calibrate the internal 49.380 MHz reference oscillator. The user must provide a suitable 10-MHz input signal to the module. Typical accuracy at the operating frequency, when locked, is +/- 1 Hz, (The K3EXREF uses frequency locking, not phase locking. See K3EXREF installation manual for further details.) Remote-Control/Switch Macro Command Changes: * "AP" COMMAND TURNS APF ON/OFF: You can turn the CW audio peaking filter on/off by sending “AP1;” or “AP0;”, respectively. Applies only in CW mode with CONFIG:DUAL PB set to APF. You can use this command to create a TAP function to turn APF on/off; use the Help function in K3 Utility for details on macros. * "BG" COMMAND USEABLE IN TX MODE: Reads PWR or ALC depending on METER setting. Note: In RX mode, BG returns up to 21 with CWT off, but only up to 09 with CWT on. Also, at present there is no way to read CWT, SWR, or CMP. * CHANNEL HOPPING CANCELLED ON FA/FB BAND CHANGE. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Hi Wayne, Would appreciate a copy of the new K3
code. Thanks, Palmer W7NMD From: wayne burdick
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In reply to this post by Vic K2VCO
I, too, have run into this. After getting a DX QSO running Split, I sometimes leave the radio, jump for joy, come back later or the next day, and forget I'm in Split.
I have also done the opposite, where I hit something and get out of Split and not realize it. I'm embarrassed when the the Up Up Up folks let me know. I know I can/should just look at the K3 and the SPLT indicator, but I'm often focused on other things. Besides, I don't think about looking at it cause I ** know** I'm in the right mode! :-) I'm a visual guy. What I thought would be a good solution for me would be a SPLIT indicator on the P3 (configureable on/off, of course). Something big, red, and bold. Something that will catch your eye and you're not likely to miss. Like the word SPLIT or Non-SPLIT, or something along those lines. Meanwhile, apologies to the Up Up Up folks. |
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Hello All
I also am a victim of split; however I can not blame it on the K3. The last time this happened to me after I though that I had everything Setup and call the DX station I heard the UP UP UP and I thought Some dummy tx on the DX qrg again and then I noticed it was me. It happens 73 all and best DX Ken K5DNL ---------------------------------------------------------------------- --- On Thu, 3/17/11, Shel Radin KF0UR <[hidden email]> wrote: > From: Shel Radin KF0UR <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] I did it again! > To: [hidden email] > Date: Thursday, March 17, 2011, 12:17 PM > I, too, have run into this. > After getting a DX QSO running Split, I > sometimes leave the radio, jump for joy, come back later or > the next day, > and forget I'm in Split. > > I have also done the opposite, where I hit something and > get out of Split > and not realize it. I'm embarrassed when > the the Up Up Up folks let me > know. I know I can/should just look at the > K3 and the SPLT indicator, but > I'm often focused on other > things. Besides, I don't think about > looking at > it cause I ** know** I'm in the right > mode! :-) > > I'm a visual guy. What I thought would be a good > solution for me would be a > SPLIT indicator on the P3 (configureable on/off, of > course). Something > big, red, and bold. Something that will > catch your eye and you're not > likely to miss. Like the word SPLIT or > Non-SPLIT, or something along those > lines. > > Meanwhile, apologies to the Up Up Up folks. > > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/I-did-it-again-tp6171709p6181825.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I would be quick to admit to a recent couple of most embarrassing UP UP
situations, one of which involved my callsign. I tried to discover why I am suddenly doing this when, as someone who takes pride in his operating skills, I tend to be careful. Two things became evident very quickly: (1) In a pile-up, my focus was on the P3 display as I scooted around looking for holes in which to place my signal. My focus was off the K3 and any displayed cues that might have kept me from transmitting somewhere other than where I had intended as the result of incorrect set-up of the radio. That situation is not going to go away here. In my station, the P3 is the equivalent to texting while driving. (2) My right hand stayed on the paddles. My left hand adjusted the VFO B knob on the K3. By so doing, I obscured all of the important information available to me on the K3 display and it wouldn't have been visible even if I had looked. I can do something about that. I think we need some sort of K3 TX status indicator on the P3 display to accommodate the distraction caused by adding the P3 to our stations. I would propose some sort of indication driven off the Delta(f) light under the K3 Power switch and intended to be consistent with the use of the same feature on the K3 which, to me at least, periodically reminds me that the SPLIT configuration is being used here in the station today (this is not a contest) and I should be more careful when keying up since I am no longer simplex. 73, Gary, VE1RGB -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Shel Radin KF0UR Sent: March 17, 2011 2:17 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] I did it again! I, too, have run into this. After getting a DX QSO running Split, I sometimes leave the radio, jump for joy, come back later or the next day, and forget I'm in Split. I have also done the opposite, where I hit something and get out of Split and not realize it. I'm embarrassed when the the Up Up Up folks let me know. I know I can/should just look at the K3 and the SPLT indicator, but I'm often focused on other things. Besides, I don't think about looking at it cause I ** know** I'm in the right mode! :-) I'm a visual guy. What I thought would be a good solution for me would be a SPLIT indicator on the P3 (configureable on/off, of course). Something big, red, and bold. Something that will catch your eye and you're not likely to miss. Like the word SPLIT or Non-SPLIT, or something along those lines. Meanwhile, apologies to the Up Up Up folks. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/I-did-it-again-tp6171709p6181825.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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In reply to this post by Shel Radin KF0UR
If you use DX Lab Commander to change bands and then return the same
band and frequency that you were useing the split, then you''ss find that Commander doesn't preserve the split. That's the situation where I attract the atention of the police. Dunc, W5DC . ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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In reply to this post by Shel Radin KF0UR
Stick with me on this for a sec...
One of the features I like about N1MM Logger (and I'm sure others do it too) is that if you don't make contact with a guy who's call you entered into the logger Logger will clear the entry window and place his call on the band map once you have tuned 300 Hz off his frequency. How about adding a feature to the firmware such that if you do or don't work a split QSO the split setup is turned off as soon as you tune more than 300 Hz away from him? Pick any number of Hz you like but you get the idea. Just a thought.... 73, Ken Alexander VE3HLS --- On Thu, 3/17/11, Shel Radin KF0UR <[hidden email]> wrote: > From: Shel Radin KF0UR <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] I did it again! > To: [hidden email] > Date: Thursday, March 17, 2011, 1:17 PM > I, too, have run into this. > After getting a DX QSO running Split, I > sometimes leave the radio, jump for joy, come back later or > the next day, > and forget I'm in Split. > > I have also done the opposite, where I hit something and > get out of Split > and not realize it. I'm embarrassed when > the the Up Up Up folks let me > know. I know I can/should just look at the > K3 and the SPLT indicator, but > I'm often focused on other > things. Besides, I don't think about > looking at > it cause I ** know** I'm in the right > mode! :-) > > I'm a visual guy. What I thought would be a good > solution for me would be a > SPLIT indicator on the P3 (configureable on/off, of > course). Something > big, red, and bold. Something that will > catch your eye and you're not > likely to miss. Like the word SPLIT or > Non-SPLIT, or something along those > lines. > > Meanwhile, apologies to the Up Up Up folks. > > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/I-did-it-again-tp6171709p6181825.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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On Mar 17, 2011, at 7:26 PM, VE3HLS wrote: > How about adding a feature to the firmware such that if you do or don't work a split QSO the split setup is turned off as soon as you tune more than 300 Hz away from him? Pick any number of Hz you like but you get the idea. Only if it's a set-up OPTION, rather than a fixed change to the f/w. Some of us with K3s outfitted with the second RX are using Split when we are net controls of CW & SSB traffic nets; an extremely convenient way to keep one ear on the net frequency while simultaneously checking message-handling pairings we have previously dispatched to side frequencies is to start the net session with VFO A and VFO B both on the net frequency, but with SPLIT and SUB activated. This allows us to quickly spin the Main Tuning knob to any of our side frequencies at any time during the net to check on the progress of pairings. Since we often having pairings up or down 10 or 15 kHz from the net frequency, any automatic "Split turn-off" feature that's suitable for DXers and contesters as proposed above would negate the value of the second RX for net controlling. Bud, W2RU ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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