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Import to the UK

Simon Faulkner
Hi All,

K3/100 ordered and in the UK according to USPS:

Shipment Activity        Location                               Date & Time
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Into Foreign Customs     GREAT BRITAIN                          08/17/10 11:00am


Yay!


I understand that Parcel Force will write to me so I can pay their
charge and the slice for our government.

My Questions:

Is there a difference between "Import Duty" and VAT

Am I liable for both?

Any tips as to how to make sure that Parcel Force get it here?


Fingers are crossed...


TIA

Simon 2E0SCF

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Re: Import to the UK

M0XDF
see embedded answers below
On 17 Aug 2010, at 13:48, Simon Faulkner wrote:
> K3/100 ordered and in the UK according to USPS:
> Shipment Activity        Location                               Date & Time
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Into Foreign Customs     GREAT BRITAIN                          08/17/10 11:00am
> I understand that Parcel Force will write to me so I can pay their
> charge and the slice for our government.
YES
> My Questions:
> Is there a difference between "Import Duty" and VAT
YES
> Am I liable for both?
NO - you should only pay VAT, Elecraft put the right codes on to avoid the Duty.
You will probably have to pay a handling charge too.
> Any tips as to how to make sure that Parcel Force get it here?
I've nearly always used UPS, so no, but I'd follow the tracking number closely and ring them - you probably have to ring and pay the VAT and handling chare via card anyway (UPS will take a cheque at the door).
> Fingers are crossed...
And Toes !
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, P3 #108
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Re: Import to the UK

Simon Faulkner
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Thanks for the off list replies.

Consensus is

Yes you pay VAT
No you don't pay import duty
UPS is better if you can afford it

Ta

Simon 2E0SCF
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Re: Import to the UK

Roger Dallimore-2
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Hi Simon,

You are not liable to import duty but most of my many orders from
elecraft (even with commodity codes correctly printed on the box)  still
arrive with a demand for import duty before Parcel Force will hand over
the parcel.

Keep every sticker on the parcel just in case you are charged.  I have
always been able to reclaim import duty but it is very long winded,
usually taking several months and they have always asked for the
"original" customs labels/invoice to support my refund.

Good luck with your K3, you'll have a lot of fun with it!

73
Roger  MW0IDX

K3 #191
K2 #2724
KX1 #416
KPA500?

> My Questions:
>
> Is there a difference between "Import Duty" and VAT
>
> Am I liable for both?
>
> Any tips as to how to make sure that Parcel Force get it here?
>
>
> Fingers are crossed...
>
>
> TIA
>
> Simon 2E0SCF
>
>  

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Re: Import to the UK

M0XDF
Maybe another reason to use UPS, never been asked once :-)
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, P3 #108
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On 17 Aug 2010, at 20:42, Roger Dallimore wrote:

> Hi Simon,
>
> You are not liable to import duty but most of my many orders from
> elecraft (even with commodity codes correctly printed on the box)  still
> arrive with a demand for import duty before Parcel Force will hand over
> the parcel.
>
> Keep every sticker on the parcel just in case you are charged.  I have
> always been able to reclaim import duty but it is very long winded,
> usually taking several months and they have always asked for the
> "original" customs labels/invoice to support my refund.
>
> Good luck with your K3, you'll have a lot of fun with it!

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Re: Import to the UK

Geoffrey Downs-3
UPS to the UK, however, costs a lot more than USPS. Around $100 extra for a
P3, for example - more than double USPS. This could well be more than the
import duty demanded. I have never been asked for import duty by
ParcelForce, but I believe those who have get it back in the end.

73 to all

Geoff
G3UCK

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Ferrington, M0XDF" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Import to the UK


> Maybe another reason to use UPS, never been asked once :-)
> 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, P3 #108
>
> On 17 Aug 2010, at 20:42, Roger Dallimore wrote:
>> You are not liable to import duty but most of my many orders from
>> elecraft (even with commodity codes correctly printed on the box)  still
>> arrive with a demand for import duty before Parcel Force will hand over
>> the parcel.

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Re: Import to the UK

John Lemay
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Hi Simon

Just to confirm: you'll pay a Parcel Force handling charge and then VAT on
the total value. There should be no import taxes.

If you have a dispute, it's easier to pay and argue afterwards, otherwise
you won't get you nice new rig until it's all settled.

Your letter from Parcel Force will give you options about how to pay
(on-line, in person at depot etc), and there should be an option to collect
your rig from the depot.

Good luck

John G4ZTR

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Subject: [Elecraft] Import to the UK

Hi All,

K3/100 ordered and in the UK according to USPS:

Shipment Activity        Location                               Date & Time
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
Into Foreign Customs     GREAT BRITAIN                          08/17/10
11:00am


Yay!


I understand that Parcel Force will write to me so I can pay their
charge and the slice for our government.

My Questions:

Is there a difference between "Import Duty" and VAT

Am I liable for both?

Any tips as to how to make sure that Parcel Force get it here?


Fingers are crossed...


TIA

Simon 2E0SCF

--
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Staffordshire Moorlands

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Re: Import to the UK

Graham Smith-2
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Simon, it's worth checking to see if it's less expensive to buy from
QRPproject in Germany (Elecraft's European distributor).
http://www.qrpproject.de/UK/indexuk.html  Because it's in the Eu, the VAT is
included in the price and you don't have to pay the incoming carrier VAT or
a (large!!) handling fee for the privilege of taking the VAT off you.

>From their web page: "No Custom declaration problems,VAT included, shipment
only 8,00 Euro"

73 de Graham G3ZOD FISTS #8385
http://www.fists.co.uk 

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Thanks for the off list replies.

Consensus is

Yes you pay VAT
No you don't pay import duty
UPS is better if you can afford it

Ta

Simon 2E0SCF

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Re: Import to the UK

M0XDF
is that site supposed to have prices and an ordering form? I looked here before and you can see various Electraft products, but not a price list as far as I know.
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, P3 #108
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On 18 Aug 2010, at 10:11, Graham Smith wrote:

> Simon, it's worth checking to see if it's less expensive to buy from
> QRPproject in Germany (Elecraft's European distributor).
> http://www.qrpproject.de/UK/indexuk.html  Because it's in the Eu, the VAT is
> included in the price and you don't have to pay the incoming carrier VAT or
> a (large!!) handling fee for the privilege of taking the VAT off you.
>
>> From their web page: "No Custom declaration problems,VAT included, shipment
> only 8,00 Euro"
>

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Re: Import to the UK

Mike Reublin
  On 8/18/2010 5:20 AM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:
> is that site supposed to have prices and an ordering form? I looked here before and you can see various Electraft products, but not a price list as far as I know.
> 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, P3 #108

I finally found this. Can't tell you how I got there.
http://www.qrp-shop.de/200/cgi-bin/shop.dll?AnbieterID=1
Not the easiest site to navigate I've seen......
73, Mike
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Re: Import to the UK

M0XDF
Yes, I found that too, thanks. But looking through a list for various items is not easy, there isn't a simple list of products and prices - mind you, the W2 as a kit is €10 cheaper from them before you even take into account the cost of shipping and the additional VAT, so certainly worth persevering with the site.
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On 18 Aug 2010, at 10:37, Mike wrote:

>  On 8/18/2010 5:20 AM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:
>> is that site supposed to have prices and an ordering form? I looked here before and you can see various Electraft products, but not a price list as far as I know.
>> 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, P3 #108
>
> I finally found this. Can't tell you how I got there.
> http://www.qrp-shop.de/200/cgi-bin/shop.dll?AnbieterID=1
> Not the easiest site to navigate I've seen......
> 73, Mike

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