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Internal or External amp for K2..what are my options

Millerhill
Is there a thread that looks at options for external amps for the K2? If I use an external amp, do I also need an external tuner? I want to get an amp, and getting the internal amp seems like the most sensible way to go, but I'm also thinking that an external amp I could use for other radios in the future might be the better solution. Are there off the shelf 100w amps that might fit the bill? I see Ten Tec's new amp is $700+....not going to happen at that price.

73,
Steve



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Re: Internal or External amp for K2..what are my options

Don Wilhelm-4
Steve,

You will have to wait for the KX3 external amplifier.  The plan is for
it to work with other QRP transceivers too.

You can also use any linear amplifier.  For instance, the KPA500 will
provide greater than 100 watts output from a QRP K2.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/11/2012 8:39 AM, Stephen Roberts wrote:
> Is there a thread that looks at options for external amps for the K2? If I use an external amp, do I also need an external tuner? I want to get an amp, and getting the internal amp seems like the most sensible way to go, but I'm also thinking that an external amp I could use for other radios in the future might be the better solution. Are there off the shelf 100w amps that might fit the bill? I see Ten Tec's new amp is $700+....not going to happen at that price.
>
> 73,
> Steve
>
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Re: Internal or External amp for K2..what are my options

John Ragle
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Hi, Steve...I had a K2/100 (100 internal) which I stupidly sold off in a
fit of (Flex) techno-lust. It was a very nice little rig, though the 100
watt add-in does make for a very compact, space-filing, even crowded,
little riglet,. If you look thru this site's archives, you will find at
least one thread in which the add-in is put into a separate box. You
might be interested in that variation. It is not quite so simple as just
putting a box around the amp, however.

John Ragle - W1ZI

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On 6/11/2012 8:39 AM, Stephen Roberts wrote:
> Is there a thread that looks at options for external amps for the K2?
> If I use an external amp, do I also need an external tuner? I want to
> get an amp, and getting the internal amp seems like the most sensible
> way to go, but I'm also thinking that an external amp I could use for
> other radios in the future might be the better solution. Are there off
> the shelf 100w amps that might fit the bill? I see Ten Tec's new amp
> is $700+....not going to happen at that price. 73, Steve
> ----------------------------------------------- Steve Roberts W1SFR
> Elecraft K2 Sudbury, VT
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Re: Internal or External amp for K2..what are my options

ny4g
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Steve

HFPacker version 4 gets you 35 watts out - this is a kit and will work with any QRP rig - cost is 259 USD

KPA100 is internal to the K2/100 (essentially a new top) - check the Elecraft price list - will only work with a K2 - this is what I have.

Juma PA100 is a very nice 100 watt linear for about 460 Euros and will work with any rig

Or you can wait for the KXPA100 which will work with any QRP rig

Ariel NY4G

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On Jun 11, 2012, at 8:49 AM, "Stephen Roberts" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Is there a thread that looks at options for external amps for the K2? If I use an external amp, do I also need an external tuner? I want to get an amp, and getting the internal amp seems like the most sensible way to go, but I'm also thinking that an external amp I could use for other radios in the future might be the better solution. Are there off the shelf 100w amps that might fit the bill? I see Ten Tec's new amp is $700+....not going to happen at that price.
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> 73,
> Steve
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Re: Internal or External amp for K2..what are my options

ke9uw
Why do folks say only with K2? Can't it be modified?

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On Jun 11, 2012, at 10:59 AM, "Ariel Jacala" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Steve
>
> HFPacker version 4 gets you 35 watts out - this is a kit and will work with any QRP rig - cost is 259 USD
>
> KPA100 is internal to the K2/100 (essentially a new top) - check the Elecraft price list - will only work with a K2 - this is what I have.
>
> Juma PA100 is a very nice 100 watt linear for about 460 Euros and will work with any rig
>
> Or you can wait for the KXPA100 which will work with any QRP rig
>
> Ariel NY4G
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jun 11, 2012, at 8:49 AM, "Stephen Roberts" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Is there a thread that looks at options for external amps for the K2? If I use an external amp, do I also need an external tuner? I want to get an amp, and getting the internal amp seems like the most sensible way to go, but I'm also thinking that an external amp I could use for other radios in the future might be the better solution. Are there off the shelf 100w amps that might fit the bill? I see Ten Tec's new amp is $700+....not going to happen at that price.
>>
>> 73,
>> Steve
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>> Steve Roberts
>> W1SFR
>> Elecraft K2
>> Sudbury, VT
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Re: Internal or External amp for K2..what are my options

Don Wilhelm-4
The KPA100 is dedicated to the K2.  It needs to communicate with the K2
MCU to select the proper band, control the power output level as well as
a myriad of other functions.

While it could feasibly be modified, it would be a considerable task to
do so, and would require adding new firmware with more smarts than
available in the existing KPA100 firmware IC.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/11/2012 12:44 PM, hawley, charles j jr wrote:

> Why do folks say only with K2? Can't it be modified?
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jun 11, 2012, at 10:59 AM, "Ariel Jacala"<[hidden email]>  wrote:
>
>> Steve
>>
>> HFPacker version 4 gets you 35 watts out - this is a kit and will work with any QRP rig - cost is 259 USD
>>
>> KPA100 is internal to the K2/100 (essentially a new top) - check the Elecraft price list - will only work with a K2 - this is what I have.
>>
>> Juma PA100 is a very nice 100 watt linear for about 460 Euros and will work with any rig
>>
>> Or you can wait for the KXPA100 which will work with any QRP rig
>>
>>
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Guy, K2AV
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Modification would be quite the chore.

The KPA100 talks to the K2 over the aux bus using proprietary telemetry
protocols.  Otherwise the 100 watt amp could not be used stand-alone.  One
common enough separate-from-K2-enclosure method is to put the KPA100 and
KAT100 in a separate EC2 project box.  This still works because the K2
communicates to the KPA100 in the separate EC2 box via the auxbus in the
connecting control cable.

I have that arrangement here.  Very slick and behaves just as if they were
in the same box.  That way I get to keep the battery operation at 10 watts
and station operation at 100.  The same jack on the back of the K2 feeds
both RS232 to the computer and auxbus et al to the KPA100.

73, Guy.

On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 12:44 PM, hawley, charles j jr <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> Why do folks say only with K2? Can't it be modified?
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jun 11, 2012, at 10:59 AM, "Ariel Jacala" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Steve
> >
> > HFPacker version 4 gets you 35 watts out - this is a kit and will work
> with any QRP rig - cost is 259 USD
> >
> > KPA100 is internal to the K2/100 (essentially a new top) - check the
> Elecraft price list - will only work with a K2 - this is what I have.
> >
> > Juma PA100 is a very nice 100 watt linear for about 460 Euros and will
> work with any rig
> >
> > Or you can wait for the KXPA100 which will work with any QRP rig
> >
> > Ariel NY4G
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > On Jun 11, 2012, at 8:49 AM, "Stephen Roberts" <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Is there a thread that looks at options for external amps for the K2?
> If I use an external amp, do I also need an external tuner? I want to get
> an amp, and getting the internal amp seems like the most sensible way to
> go, but I'm also thinking that an external amp I could use for other radios
> in the future might be the better solution. Are there off the shelf 100w
> amps that might fit the bill? I see Ten Tec's new amp is $700+....not going
> to happen at that price.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >> Steve
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----------------------------------------------
> >> Steve Roberts
> >> W1SFR
> >> Elecraft K2
> >> Sudbury, VT
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