International shipping costs

[Franki ON5ZO]

Can someone please tell me if the difference in shipping is worth the
difference in price to ship a KPA-500:

UPS Worldwide expedited = 414 $
US Post Office Priority Mail International = 131 $

I have had superb service from UPS with both my K3's but the difference is
pretty steep and I need to pay 21% VAT on top of that!
UPS is fast (from clicking 'submit order' to K3 box in my hands in under 48
hours), but I won't mind waiting a few days and save about 300 Euro if USPS
is slower.

I wonder if USPS or their Belgian partner handles clearing the box through
Belgian customs like UPS does. I have had nothing but troubles with these
red tape lovin' kafkaesque bureaucrats, so I'd rather see the carrier handle
the customs part. That would be in favor of UPS.

Has anyone in EU tried USPS and if so are you happy with it?

73 de Franki ON5ZO

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[Johnny Siu]

USPS is very ok for sending KPA500 to Hong Kong.

TNX & 73,


Johnny VR2XMC


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Can someone please tell me if the difference in shipping is worth the
difference in price to ship a KPA-500:

UPS Worldwide expedited = 414 $
US Post Office Priority Mail International = 131 $

I have had superb service from UPS with both my K3's but the difference is
pretty steep and I need to pay 21% VAT on top of that!
UPS is fast (from clicking 'submit order' to K3 box in my hands in under 48
hours), but I won't mind waiting a few days and save about 300 Euro if USPS
is slower.

I wonder if USPS or their Belgian partner handles clearing the box through
Belgian customs like UPS does. I have had nothing but troubles with these
red tape lovin' kafkaesque bureaucrats, so I'd rather see the carrier handle
the customs part. That would be in favor of UPS.

Has anyone in EU tried USPS and if so are you happy with it?

73 de Franki ON5ZO

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[David Cutter]

I'm happy with USPS but you pay the price!  Haven't used them for heavy
items like this.
I have also used international mail which is fine *if it is delivered to
a business address* where they automatically bill the VAT to their
account, sign and deliver.  If it's to a private address, it can hold
things up.

David
G3UNA


On 17/06/2012 12:25, Franki ON5ZO wrote:

> Can someone please tell me if the difference in shipping is worth the
> difference in price to ship a KPA-500:
>
> UPS Worldwide expedited = 414 $
> US Post Office Priority Mail International = 131 $
>
> I have had superb service from UPS with both my K3's but the difference is
> pretty steep and I need to pay 21% VAT on top of that!
> UPS is fast (from clicking 'submit order' to K3 box in my hands in under 48
> hours), but I won't mind waiting a few days and save about 300 Euro if USPS
> is slower.
>
> I wonder if USPS or their Belgian partner handles clearing the box through
> Belgian customs like UPS does. I have had nothing but troubles with these
> red tape lovin' kafkaesque bureaucrats, so I'd rather see the carrier handle
> the customs part. That would be in favor of UPS.
>
> Has anyone in EU tried USPS and if so are you happy with it?
>
> 73 de Franki ON5ZO
>
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[Oliver Dröse]

Hi Franki,

to my mind the price difference is not worth it, at least for delivery to
Germany. I had both my K3 as well as the KPA500 (as well as other
non-Elecraft items and hopefully soon my KX3) delivered through USPS with no
problems at all with their German partner DHL/DeutschePost. German customs
kept it in but you simply send them a copy of all the paper work and pay the
VAT and they will release it and it will be delivered to your doorsteps then
by DHL (or you go to the customs office personally to pay and pick it up
there which I've done a few times, too).

UPS for sure works a bit smoother as they take care of everything and are
quite a bit faster but to my mind that is not worth a 300$ price difference
(plus VAT for that on top). YMMV, depending on who's the Belgian partner.
Hearing of all the trouble the UK friends have with their USPS partner it
might also be a bad experience.

Keeping fingers crossed for you and see you in the next contest! ;-)

Vy 73, Olli - DH8BQA
http://www.dh8bqa.de/





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From: "Franki ON5ZO" <[hidden email]>
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Subject: [Elecraft] International shipping costs

> Can someone please tell me if the difference in shipping is worth the
> difference in price to ship a KPA-500:
>
> UPS Worldwide expedited = 414 $
> US Post Office Priority Mail International = 131 $
>
> I have had superb service from UPS with both my K3's but the difference is
> pretty steep and I need to pay 21% VAT on top of that!
> UPS is fast (from clicking 'submit order' to K3 box in my hands in under
> 48
> hours), but I won't mind waiting a few days and save about 300 Euro if
> USPS
> is slower.
>
> I wonder if USPS or their Belgian partner handles clearing the box through
> Belgian customs like UPS does. I have had nothing but troubles with these
> red tape lovin' kafkaesque bureaucrats, so I'd rather see the carrier
> handle
> the customs part. That would be in favor of UPS.
>
> Has anyone in EU tried USPS and if so are you happy with it?
>
> 73 de Franki ON5ZO
>
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[Jim Brown-10]

On 6/17/2012 8:32 AM, Oliver Dröse wrote:
> YMMV, depending on who's the Belgian partner. Hearing of all
>   the trouble the UK friends have with their USPS partner it
> might also be a bad experience.

I was quite pleased with shipping for the DG8SAQ VNWA that I bought last
month.  It was built by SDR Kits in the UK, shipped via Royal Mail at
modest cost, and arrived in my mail box in about ten days.  So this is
one international relationship that seems to work fine, at least in this
direction.

73, Jim K9YC
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[Dave Johnson]

Here in the UK Parcel Force handle the customs clearance, not USPS.
That is where the considerable delay comes in, a few months ago I had
my KPA500 shipped by USPS for the significant saving in shipping cost,
I could track the parcel all the way through, the tracking number
changed when Parcel Force took control but I could then track it via
their web site.

It took approximately one week for the parcel to reach UK customs
where it sat for another week... Then Parcel Force did their slow
stuff, taking around 2 1/2 weeks "end to end". Here we receive a
letter from Parcel Force asking for payment before they will deliver.

UPS on the other hand seem to have a bonus to the staff if they can
beat some kind of record by getting the parcel to your door step in
double quick time. My P3 and second RX for the K3 were at their UK
depot (and out of customs) the morning after being picked up in
California, unfortunately too late for that days delivery, but it came
the next day. 2 days "door to door" including customs clearance isn't
bad but the cost is pretty steep.

73 Dave, G4AON

>I wonder if USPS or their Belgian partner handles clearing the box through
>Belgian customs like UPS does
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[Kevin Cozens-2]

On 12-06-18 04:12 AM, Dave Johnson wrote:
> UPS on the other hand seem to have a bonus to the staff if they can
> beat some kind of record by getting the parcel to your door step
[snip]
> including customs clearance isn't bad but the cost is pretty steep.

UPS does seem to handle customs clearance and they make you pay for it if
you don't have your own clearance broker. Last time (several years ago) I
had something sent from US to Canada via UPS they wanted to hit me up for
$45 in fees. I refused the item and had it reshipped via USPS.

UPS may be a faster way to get something than if it was shipped via the
local post office but if the parcel crosses a border you have to be aware
you may be in for an additional fee from UPS related to customs clearance.

--
Cheers!

Kevin.

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[va3bxg]

For domestic shipment (us) the ups does a better job in tracking, and delivery. But costs are higher then USPS

Outside the us, might as well hang over your wallet if shipping ups.

Once I got promotional material for a trip I was organizing for a social club (read free). Usp charged me 50$ for custom clearance handling etc.

Guess who I will never use? I don't like to throw money out the window.

Internationally USPS better option

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On 2012-06-18, at 17:09, Kevin Cozens <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On 12-06-18 04:12 AM, Dave Johnson wrote:
>> UPS on the other hand seem to have a bonus to the staff if they can
>> beat some kind of record by getting the parcel to your door step
> [snip]
>> including customs clearance isn't bad but the cost is pretty steep.
>
> UPS does seem to handle customs clearance and they make you pay for it if
> you don't have your own clearance broker. Last time (several years ago) I
> had something sent from US to Canada via UPS they wanted to hit me up for
> $45 in fees. I refused the item and had it reshipped via USPS.
>
> UPS may be a faster way to get something than if it was shipped via the
> local post office but if the parcel crosses a border you have to be aware
> you may be in for an additional fee from UPS related to customs clearance.
>
> --
> Cheers!
>
> Kevin.
>
> http://www.ve3syb.ca/           |"Nerds make the shiny things that distract
> Owner of Elecraft K2 #2172      | the mouth-breathers, and that's why we're
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