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Jim Brown-10

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> Hmm .. contester hangout vs. Starbucks: Which has the greatest appeal? :-

There's a Starbucks 3 blocks from the Marriott, which is adjacent to the
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Bill Frantz

Re: Is there a K4 on the horizon?

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Going out on a limb: The K4 will appear as upgrades to the K3.
The new synth is an example.

Trying for Wyley E. Coyote levels of limb walking:

A program interface to the auxbus for custom station automation.

Digital audio interface between the K3 and Mac/Linux/Windows.

More equipment for backpack stations. e.g. power, antennas, etc.

If Elecraft makes a car radio, and I would definitely interested
in replacing my IC-706, I hope it follows the lead of car
entertainment radios going back to the 1940s and has single
button tuning for at least 5 presets. If it is like the more
modern radios, it may have both push and hold tuning for each
button. A serious attack on driver distraction with ham mobile
radios would be a very valuable feature.

Another nice feature for a mobile rig is automatic tuning for
screwdriver antennas.

73 Bill AE6JV

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Gary Gregory-2

Re: Is there a K4 on the horizon?

Right on Bill, a mimic of the Icom tune output for their AH4 would be
terrific as there are other applications for this.

We live in hope as the saying goes.

73

Gary
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On 01/04/2015 10:19 AM, "Bill Frantz" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Going out on a limb: The K4 will appear as upgrades to the K3. The new
> synth is an example.
>
> Trying for Wyley E. Coyote levels of limb walking:
>
> A program interface to the auxbus for custom station automation.
>
> Digital audio interface between the K3 and Mac/Linux/Windows.
>
> More equipment for backpack stations. e.g. power, antennas, etc.
>
>
> If Elecraft makes a car radio, and I would definitely interested in
> replacing my IC-706, I hope it follows the lead of car entertainment radios
> going back to the 1940s and has single button tuning for at least 5
> presets. If it is like the more modern radios, it may have both push and
> hold tuning for each button. A serious attack on driver distraction with
> ham mobile radios would be a very valuable feature.
>
> Another nice feature for a mobile rig is automatic tuning for screwdriver
> antennas.
>
> 73 Bill AE6JV
>
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wayne burdick

Re: Is there a K4 on the horizon?

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In reply to this post by Bill Frantz

We don't comment on prospective product ideas. But the new KSYN3A synth module is--as you noted--an example of our commitment to the K3.

73,

Wayne
N6KR

On Mar 31, 2015, at 5:18 PM, Bill Frantz <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Going out on a limb: The K4 will appear as upgrades to the K3. The new synth is an example.
>
> Trying for Wyley E. Coyote levels of limb walking:
>
> A program interface to the auxbus for custom station automation.
>
> Digital audio interface between the K3 and Mac/Linux/Windows.
>
> More equipment for backpack stations. e.g. power, antennas, etc.
>
>
> If Elecraft makes a car radio, and I would definitely interested in replacing my IC-706, I hope it follows the lead of car entertainment radios going back to the 1940s and has single button tuning for at least 5 presets. If it is like the more modern radios, it may have both push and hold tuning for each button. A serious attack on driver distraction with ham mobile radios would be a very valuable feature.
>
> Another nice feature for a mobile rig is automatic tuning for screwdriver antennas.
>
> 73 Bill AE6JV
>
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hf4me

Re: Is there a K4 on the horizon?

In reply to this post by Bill Frantz

Exactly, I had my response written then erased it. We are seeing the K4 as
every improvement comes along to our already excellent radio. Think about
all the advancements since you got your K3 (OK, since I got mine sn 14xx).
Remember those that were prompted by users like the expansion of the macro
buffer among others. How many other companies would do that? ZERO. Your
radio continues to just get better. I, for one, am glad they are doing it
as they are instead of saving all the improvements for a new radio that I
would have to buy to get them.

Thanks again Elecraft,
73, Jim KG0KP

-----Original Message-----
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Frantz
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 7:18 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Is there a K4 on the horizon?

Going out on a limb: The K4 will appear as upgrades to the K3.
The new synth is an example.

Trying for Wyley E. Coyote levels of limb walking:

A program interface to the auxbus for custom station automation.

Digital audio interface between the K3 and Mac/Linux/Windows.

More equipment for backpack stations. e.g. power, antennas, etc.

If Elecraft makes a car radio, and I would definitely interested in
replacing my IC-706, I hope it follows the lead of car entertainment radios
going back to the 1940s and has single button tuning for at least 5 presets.
If it is like the more modern radios, it may have both push and hold tuning
for each button. A serious attack on driver distraction with ham mobile
radios would be a very valuable feature.

Another nice feature for a mobile rig is automatic tuning for screwdriver
antennas.

73 Bill AE6JV

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Scott Manthe-2

Re: Is there a K4 on the horizon?

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Well that seals it, it's the new P3 transmit monitor function we'll be
seeing soon... :)

73,
Scott, N9AA

On 3/31/15 11:08 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> We don't comment on prospective product ideas. But the new KSYN3A synth module is--as you noted--an example of our commitment to the K3.
>
> 73,
>
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
>

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Scott Manthe-2

Re: Is there a K4 on the horizon?

In reply to this post by hf4me

Wayne and Eric have repeatedly said that the K3 will be upgradeable to
the K4. Part of the reason that we keep seeing these kinds of "Where's
the K4" posts is that people are conditioned by the "big 3" to expect a
"new" rig every year or two to get the latest and greatest features and
performance. Eric and Wayne give us Elecrafters an ongoing stream of
upgrades and let us chose what we need based on how we operate. This is
why I rarely look at new rigs any more at Dayton. I'm not going to buy
into the IC756/IC765Pro/ProII/ProIII upgrade path any longer. There is
no K3/K3Pro/K3ProII. There is just the continual improvement of a
terrific rig. I'm not going to spend $5100 on the FTDX5000/D/MP/LT just
to have to buy the FTDX5100/D/MP/LT in a year at $5700 to get the
upgraded performance. My K3 is constantly upgraded at a reasonalbe cost,
and I can decide whether or not I want or need the upgrade.

It's not Elecrafters who are drinking the "Kool Aide," it's those people
who EXPECT to have to spend more money every couple of years to get
performance upgrades who are guzzling Kool Aide day and night. Stop
asking for the K4. You've already got it.

73,
Scott, N9AA

On 3/31/15 11:11 PM, Jim Miller wrote:

> Exactly, I had my response written then erased it. We are seeing the K4 as
> every improvement comes along to our already excellent radio. Think about
> all the advancements since you got your K3 (OK, since I got mine sn 14xx).
> Remember those that were prompted by users like the expansion of the macro
> buffer among others. How many other companies would do that? ZERO. Your
> radio continues to just get better. I, for one, am glad they are doing it
> as they are instead of saving all the improvements for a new radio that I
> would have to buy to get them.
>
> Thanks again Elecraft,
> 73, Jim KG0KP
>
>

Harlan Sherriff

Re: Is there a K4 on the horizon?

In reply to this post by fserota

Wouldn't that be great. ...
Harlan
NC3C

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<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Scott Manthe <[hidden email]> </div><div>Date:03/31/2015 11:18 PM (GMT-05:00) </div><div>To: [hidden email] </div><div>Cc: </div><div>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Is there a K4 on the horizon? </div><div>
</div>Well that seals it, it's the new P3 transmit monitor function we'll be
seeing soon... :)

73,
Scott, N9AA

On 3/31/15 11:08 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> We don't comment on prospective product ideas. But the new KSYN3A synth module is--as you noted--an example of our commitment to the K3.
>
> 73,
>
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
>

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Jim Bolit

Re: Is there a K4 on the horizon?

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You're right, it is all over but the shouting now.

Jim
W6AIM

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Manthe
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Well that seals it, it's the new P3 transmit monitor function we'll be
seeing soon... :)

73,
Scott, N9AA

On 3/31/15 11:08 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> We don't comment on prospective product ideas. But the new KSYN3A synth
module is--as you noted--an example of our commitment to the K3.
>
> 73,
>
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
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Johnny Siu

] Is there a K4 on the horizon?

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Hello Scott,
Tesla is also doing in this way, keep their electric vehicle updated. I like Elecraft's idea towards their model and I went through the whole process from IC756 to IC7800.
73
Johnny VR2XMC
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主題︰ Re: [Elecraft] Is there a K4 on the horizon?

Wayne and Eric have repeatedly said that the K3 will be upgradeable to
the K4. Part of the reason that we keep seeing these kinds of "Where's
the K4" posts is that people are conditioned by the "big 3" to expect a
"new" rig every year or two to get the latest and greatest features and
performance. Eric and Wayne give us Elecrafters an ongoing stream of
upgrades and let us chose what we need based on how we operate. This is
why I rarely look at new rigs any more at Dayton. I'm not going to buy
into the IC756/IC765Pro/ProII/ProIII upgrade path any longer. There is
no K3/K3Pro/K3ProII. There is just the continual improvement of a
terrific rig. I'm not going to spend $5100 on the FTDX5000/D/MP/LT just
to have to buy the FTDX5100/D/MP/LT in a year at $5700 to get the
upgraded performance. My K3 is constantly upgraded at a reasonalbe cost,
and I can decide whether or not I want or need the upgrade.

It's not Elecrafters who are drinking the "Kool Aide," it's those people
who EXPECT to have to spend more money every couple of years to get
performance upgrades who are guzzling Kool Aide day and night. Stop
asking for the K4. You've already got it.

73,
Scott, N9AA

On 3/31/15 11:11 PM, Jim Miller wrote:

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Re: Is there a K4 on the horizon?

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I really don't see why People want a K4 as a whole new radio.
A huge selling point for me was the modular and up-gradable approach of the K3 (and the K-Line as a whole)
You can go every where from the Base radio (as a great radio all by itself) up to the full blown K-Line fully loaded.

I also had radios from "The Other Guys" and having to buy a whole new radio to get new features really is a waste of money.

As the Elecraft product line increases it allows me to add in new gear that integrates well in both function and appearance
to my existing equipment so I don't wind up with the mishmash of shapes and sises so common with "the other guys"

From: Scott Manthe <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 11:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Is there a K4 on the horizon?

Wayne and Eric have repeatedly said that the K3 will be upgradeable to
the K4. Part of the reason that we keep seeing these kinds of "Where's
the K4" posts is that people are conditioned by the "big 3" to expect a
"new" rig every year or two to get the latest and greatest features and
performance. Eric and Wayne give us Elecrafters an ongoing stream of
upgrades and let us chose what we need based on how we operate. This is
why I rarely look at new rigs any more at Dayton. I'm not going to buy
into the IC756/IC765Pro/ProII/ProIII upgrade path any longer. There is
no K3/K3Pro/K3ProII. There is just the continual improvement of a
terrific rig. I'm not going to spend $5100 on the FTDX5000/D/MP/LT just
to have to buy the FTDX5100/D/MP/LT in a year at $5700 to get the
upgraded performance. My K3 is constantly upgraded at a reasonalbe cost,
and I can decide whether or not I want or need the upgrade.

It's not Elecrafters who are drinking the "Kool Aide," it's those people
who EXPECT to have to spend more money every couple of years to get
performance upgrades who are guzzling Kool Aide day and night. Stop
asking for the K4. You've already got it.

73,
Scott, N9AA

On 3/31/15 11:11 PM, Jim Miller wrote:

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Re: Is there a K4 on the horizon?

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Wayne,
That is one of the reasons I purchased a K3, that exact commitment,
thank you!
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On Tue, 2015-03-31 at 20:08 -0700, Wayne Burdick wrote:

> We don't comment on prospective product ideas. But the new KSYN3A synth module is--as you noted--an example of our commitment to the K3.
>
> 73,
>
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
> On Mar 31, 2015, at 5:18 PM, Bill Frantz <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Going out on a limb: The K4 will appear as upgrades to the K3. The new synth is an example.
> >
> > Trying for Wyley E. Coyote levels of limb walking:
> >
> > A program interface to the auxbus for custom station automation.
> >
> > Digital audio interface between the K3 and Mac/Linux/Windows.
> >
> > More equipment for backpack stations. e.g. power, antennas, etc.
> >
> >
> > If Elecraft makes a car radio, and I would definitely interested in replacing my IC-706, I hope it follows the lead of car entertainment radios going back to the 1940s and has single button tuning for at least 5 presets. If it is like the more modern radios, it may have both push and hold tuning for each button. A serious attack on driver distraction with ham mobile radios would be a very valuable feature.
> >
> > Another nice feature for a mobile rig is automatic tuning for screwdriver antennas.
> >
> > 73 Bill AE6JV
> >
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Bill Frantz | Privacy is dead, get over | Periwinkle
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Bill-3

Re: Is there a K4 on the horizon?

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The K3 allows me to have my radio as I want it - not as some marketing
bean counter wants it. I am able to keep the radio as
modern/improved/upgraded as I wish - by choosing which upgrades I wish
to ad.

Having a my K3 means no need to buy a new rig every couple of years - or
more often. Then having to deal with the new rig's teething pains -
which the factory, unlike Elecraft, may or may not address.

The K-Line is the most complete and easiest to operate HF station I have
had in my entire amateur radio career.

Completing my K-Line is a Pigknob - allowing me to control the radio a
little more conveniently. Life is good!

Bill W2BLC K-Line
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Re: Is there a K4 on the horizon?

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On 2015-04-01 12:39 AM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
> I really don't see why People want a K4 as a whole new radio.

There are many who would like to see a larger radio with more
individual controls (direct band select, Split, separate control
for Dual PB and APF, separate control for Diversity and Link,
etc.) as well as a 48V PA for better transmit IMD. The added
controls and 48V/200w PA are not something that is likely in
the current K3 form factor.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 2015-04-01 12:39 AM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
> I really don't see why People want a K4 as a whole new radio.
> A huge selling point for me was the modular and up-gradable approach of the K3 (and the K-Line as a whole)
> You can go every where from the Base radio (as a great radio all by itself) up to the full blown K-Line fully loaded.
>
> I also had radios from "The Other Guys" and having to buy a whole new radio to get new features really is a waste of money.
>
> As the Elecraft product line increases it allows me to add in new gear that integrates well in both function and appearance
> to my existing equipment so I don't wind up with the mishmash of shapes and sises so common with "the other guys"
>
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Joseph Trombino, Jr

Re: Is there a K4 on the horizon?

I tend to agree with Joe's comments.

The K1 was a much different rig than the KX1 and the K2.

These were distinctly different rigs......one didn't morph into the other , etc.

A full size K4 (whatever size that may be) might be of great appeal to the Amateur that wants a larger and perhaps easier to use radio, larger buttons, no "push" or "hold" functions, spectrum display, etc.

I love my K3 and KX3 but I would welcome a K4....it's gonna happen sometime...the K3 will be getting a little long in the tooth in a few years (or sooner).

Looking forward to warmer weather here in Southeastern North Carolina and taking my KX3 to the field and play with some new antennas.

The fun never stops!!

73, Joe W2KJ
I QRP, therefore I am

On Apr 1, 2015, at 10:32 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

>
> On 2015-04-01 12:39 AM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
> > I really don't see why People want a K4 as a whole new radio.
>
> There are many who would like to see a larger radio with more
> individual controls (direct band select, Split, separate control
> for Dual PB and APF, separate control for Diversity and Link,
> etc.) as well as a 48V PA for better transmit IMD. The added
> controls and 48V/200w PA are not something that is likely in
> the current K3 form factor.
>
> 73,
>
> ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 2015-04-01 12:39 AM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
>> I really don't see why People want a K4 as a whole new radio.
>> A huge selling point for me was the modular and up-gradable approach of the K3 (and the K-Line as a whole)
>> You can go every where from the Base radio (as a great radio all by itself) up to the full blown K-Line fully loaded.
>>
>> I also had radios from "The Other Guys" and having to buy a whole new radio to get new features really is a waste of money.
>>
>> As the Elecraft product line increases it allows me to add in new gear that integrates well in both function and appearance
>> to my existing equipment so I don't wind up with the mishmash of shapes and sises so common with "the other guys"
>>

Bill Steffey NY9H

Re: Is there a K4 on the horizon? MAYBE

they may skip the K4 go right to the K5...

while Elecraft will support the K3,,,, there is no reason to believe
they will not have such a radio as described by Joe ( both) ....

Elecraft is entitled to take those dollars spent on " the BIG SET MARKET:"
with of course their usual leapfrog technology... only a matter of time....

In the meantime let us all enjoy that Eric & Wayne chose to ply their
style and level of customer service on our service/hobby/sport.

bill ny9h/3

At 10:47 AM 4/1/2015, Joe W2KJ wrote:

>I tend to agree with Joe's comments.
>
>The K1 was a much different rig than the KX1 and the K2.
>
>These were distinctly different rigs......one didn't morph into the
>other , etc.
>
>A full size K4 (whatever size that may be) might be of great appeal
>to the Amateur that wants a larger and perhaps easier to use radio,
>larger buttons, no "push" or "hold" functions, spectrum display, etc.
>
>I love my K3 and KX3 but I would welcome a K4....it's gonna happen
>sometime...the K3 will be getting a little long in the tooth in a
>few years (or sooner).
>
>Looking forward to warmer weather here in Southeastern North
>Carolina and taking my KX3 to the field and play with some new antennas.
>
>The fun never stops!!
>
> 73, Joe W2KJ
> I QRP, therefore I am
>
>
>On Apr 1, 2015, at 10:32 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>
> >
> > On 2015-04-01 12:39 AM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
> > > I really don't see why People want a K4 as a whole new radio.
> >
> > There are many who would like to see a larger radio with more
> > individual controls (direct band select, Split, separate control
> > for Dual PB and APF, separate control for Diversity and Link,
> > etc.) as well as a 48V PA for better transmit IMD. The added
> > controls and 48V/200w PA are not something that is likely in
> > the current K3 form factor.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > ... Joe, W4TV
> >
> >
> > On 2015-04-01 12:39 AM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
> >> I really don't see why People want a K4 as a whole new radio.
> >> A huge selling point for me was the modular and up-gradable
> approach of the K3 (and the K-Line as a whole)
> >> You can go every where from the Base radio (as a great radio all
> by itself) up to the full blown K-Line fully loaded.
> >>
> >> I also had radios from "The Other Guys" and having to buy a
> whole new radio to get new features really is a waste of money.
> >>
> >> As the Elecraft product line increases it allows me to add in
> new gear that integrates well in both function and appearance
> >> to my existing equipment so I don't wind up with the mishmash of
> shapes and sises so common with "the other guys"
> >>
>
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Re: Is there a K4 on the horizon?

In reply to this post by Joe Subich, W4TV-4

Seems to me that one viable possibility would be for Elecraft to build
a new box - one that encapsulates the existing K3, but has a new front
panel that's larger, with more knobs allowing each knob to have a
singular function. For those that use the K3 as their main home radio
- this would allow you to have larger knobs, spaced further out, and
have that big radio feel - while those of us that travel constantly
with our K3's can continue with the smaller footprint, which for me
works great even though I have huge hands.

Doing so would require re-engineering front panel, but probably not
much more than that? Since the front panel is just ribbon-cabled to
the rest of the radio. Seems like a relatively small engineering feat
for a big bang but maybe its only an incremental change in terms of
moving the needle and maybe that's not where Elecraft wants to focus.

Good topics for April 1st ;)

73 de N6GQ

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 7:32 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> On 2015-04-01 12:39 AM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
>> I really don't see why People want a K4 as a whole new radio.
>
> There are many who would like to see a larger radio with more
> individual controls (direct band select, Split, separate control
> for Dual PB and APF, separate control for Diversity and Link,
> etc.) as well as a 48V PA for better transmit IMD. The added
> controls and 48V/200w PA are not something that is likely in
> the current K3 form factor.
>
> 73,
>
> ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 2015-04-01 12:39 AM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
>>
>> I really don't see why People want a K4 as a whole new radio.
>> A huge selling point for me was the modular and up-gradable approach of
>> the K3 (and the K-Line as a whole)
>> You can go every where from the Base radio (as a great radio all by
>> itself) up to the full blown K-Line fully loaded.
>>
>> I also had radios from "The Other Guys" and having to buy a whole new
>> radio to get new features really is a waste of money.
>>
>> As the Elecraft product line increases it allows me to add in new gear
>> that integrates well in both function and appearance
>> to my existing equipment so I don't wind up with the mishmash of shapes
>> and sises so common with "the other guys"
>>
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Re: P3 artifacts

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Couple questions:

1.Can some Guru tell me where the little spikes at +/- 300 and 600 cycles
from the CW carrier (down about 40 dB) are when looking at a -73 dBm from
a XG1 or XG2 ?

2. I am curious what you typically see for the delta in dB between the
average baseline say at 10 msec averaging and the peak line on the P3 with
no antenna on the K3.

73 Hank K7HP

K 3.7 / P 3.1 /KAT500/KPA500

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Re: Is there a K4 on the horizon?

In reply to this post by Joe Subich, W4TV-4

Yep. Some circuit improvements, shielding to reduce birdies, real viscous
damped tuning knobs.....

Looking forward to seeing what they've done.

On 4/1/2015 7:32 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

Re: P3 artifacts

In reply to this post by HP

replace "where" the ..... with "what" the ....

-----Original Message-----
From: Hank P
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 11:11 AM
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 artifacts

Couple questions:

1.Can some Guru tell me where WHAT the little spikes at +/- 300 and 600 cycles
from the CW carrier (down about 40 dB) are when looking at a -73 dBm from
a XG1 or XG2 ?

2. I am curious what you typically see for the delta in dB between the
average baseline say at 10 msec averaging and the peak line on the P3 with
no antenna on the K3.

73 Hank K7HP

K 3.7 / P 3.1 /KAT500/KPA500

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