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K-2 and digital question

K4TM
Has anyone connected a RigBlaster with their K2 for SSTV or PSK-31?  If
so, I'd like to contact you off-line as I have some questions.  I've
wired the "pins" in the RigBlaster per the instructions for Elecraft and
hooked it up to the computer properly but no luck receiving, etc.
Thanks in advance for any help!
73,
Cary, K4TM
K2-100 #5266
Lynchburg, VA
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Re: K-2 and digital question

wb2ssb
Please send the responses to the reflector?  I am sure many of us are interested!





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Sent: Wed Aug 30 11:02:12 2006
Subject: [Elecraft] K-2 and digital question

Has anyone connected a RigBlaster with their K2 for SSTV or PSK-31?  If
so, I'd like to contact you off-line as I have some questions.  I've
wired the "pins" in the RigBlaster per the instructions for Elecraft and
hooked it up to the computer properly but no luck receiving, etc.
Thanks in advance for any help!
73,
Cary, K4TM
K2-100 #5266
Lynchburg, VA
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Re: K-2 and digital question

Phil Kane-3
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On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 11:02:12 -0400, H.Cary III wrote:

>Has anyone connected a RigBlaster with their K2 for SSTV or PSK-31?  If
>so, I'd like to contact you off-line as I have some questions.  I've
>wired the "pins" in the RigBlaster per the instructions for Elecraft and
>hooked it up to the computer properly but no luck receiving, etc.
>Thanks in advance for any help!

  I'm using a RigBlaster Plus with a K2 and MixW, and it's been
  trial-and-error to get it set up for data (PSK-31, etc).

  I would also be interested in what others had to say about the
  setup.  Did you get any replies to your posting above?  If so,
  please share them with us, if you can.

--
   73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
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RE: K-2 and digital question

Phil Kane-2
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On Sun, 3 Sep 2006 20:47:03 -0400, H. Cary III wrote:

>Will do when I return home...vistiting daughter in
>Philadelphia...hope to get to work on the K2 digital stuff next
>weekend...i did manage to turn on rtty in the secondary menu but
>tht's as far as I've gotten.  Only two responses so far...

  Well, after a lot of experimenting this weekend w/ the K2 at
  minimum power into a dummy load, I finally got it set up for
  BPSK-31 and actually made a QSO on 40 meters with a station in
  North Dakota, halfway across the country, w/50 watts into a
  lossy dipole.

  I have recordings of what the various modes are supposed to
  sound like, but I haven't found a source of what they are
  supposed to look like on the MixW waterfall display.   I have
  learned to recognize the BPSK-31 signals, though.  There are
  several that I see that I can't identify, and of course I
  recognize the big Navy encrypted syncronous RTTY signal on 5346
  kHz (60 meter band) which cannot be detected, let alone
  decrypted, by the usual stuff that we hams have, (I've heard
  that stuff for most of my ham and professional life) but it's a
  good 60-meter "beacon".

  The setup I stumbled across has a few things that are not
  intuitive and I don't know if this is the optimum setup  or if
  I missed something, but that's what the reflector is all about.
  I've taken the liberty of posting this to the reflector in case
  anyone there can help us get it set up "right".

  Enjoy the rest of the weekend, have a safe trip home, and we'll
  be in touch.

--
   73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
   Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402



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Re: K-2 and digital question

Michael E. Dobson
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To the original poster who could not even receive.

The RigBlaster is not used during receive.  The audio goes straight
from the K2 (I use the ext speaker jack) to the Line IN jack on your
sound card.  Until you can properly receive  PSK, SSTV, RTTY, etc,
there is no point in connecting up the RigBlaster.

Once you have receive working, the instructions supplied for the K2
should work for transmitting but that will depend upon how you wired
the microphone connector on your K2.  Make sure you have the
RigBlaster jumpered so that the signals appear on the same pins as
they do on your microphone.

The only problem I encountered was not being able to use the
microphone through the RigBlaster due to hum on my audio.  I suspect
this is a grounding issue caused in part by not having the
microphione jack in the K2 grounded  in my version, S/N 2221.  Next
time I open it up for mods, it is my To Do list.

73,
Mike WA3KYY

At 07:55 PM 9/1/2006, Phil Kane wrote:

>On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 11:02:12 -0400, H.Cary III wrote:
>
> >Has anyone connected a RigBlaster with their K2 for SSTV or PSK-31?  If
> >so, I'd like to contact you off-line as I have some questions.  I've
> >wired the "pins" in the RigBlaster per the instructions for Elecraft and
> >hooked it up to the computer properly but no luck receiving, etc.
> >Thanks in advance for any help!
>
>   I'm using a RigBlaster Plus with a K2 and MixW, and it's been
>   trial-and-error to get it set up for data (PSK-31, etc).
>
>   I would also be interested in what others had to say about the
>   setup.  Did you get any replies to your posting above?  If so,
>   please share them with us, if you can.
>
>--
>    73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
>    Elecraft K2/100   5402
>
>
>
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Re: K-2 and digital question

Phil Kane-2
On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 10:12:47 -0400, Michael E. Dobson wrote:

>Once you have receive working, the instructions supplied for the K2
>should work for transmitting but that will depend upon how you wired
>the microphone connector on your K2.  Make sure you have the
>RigBlaster jumpered so that the signals appear on the same pins as
>they do on your microphone.

  I have the RigBlaster connected to one computer serial port and
  the K2 connected to another for remote control via Ham Radio
  Deluxe.  The main question I have is if there is a better way
  to get the computer to trigger the transmiter than to use the
  VOX.

>The only problem I encountered was not being able to use the
>microphone through the RigBlaster due to hum on my audio.  I suspect
>this is a grounding issue caused in part by not having the
>microphione jack in the K2 grounded  in my version, S/N 2221.  Next
>time I open it up for mods, it is my To Do list.

  I have a much later K2 and have had no reports about hum.

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RE: K-2 and digital question

Don Wilhelm-3
Phil and all,

The Rigblaster is capable of controlling PTT from its serial port
connection.

I don't have a RigBlaster, but I just looked at the schematic and see that
you must have P5 pin 1 jumpered to pin 10 (PSK31 programs control PTT with
the RTS signal), and you must jumper P1:B pin 18 to whichever pin you use on
your K2 mic jack for PTT (if your K2 is wired for the Elecraft configuration
with mic pin 2 as PTT, you would wire P1:B pin 18 to P1:B pin 25).

That should allow the RS-232 interface, the Foot switch as well as the front
panel mic input to control the PTT line.  Of course, the AUTO/VOX switch
should be in the AUTO position.

I don't know how that squares with the Rigblaster instructions, but it is
what their website schematic indicates must be done.

After looking at the Rigblaster schematic, I am amazed that they did not
include a transformer in the headphone jack to soundcard connection.  What
that means is that despite all the optoisolators used in this unit, the
headphone jack connection negates any other attempts to isolate the computer
ground from the transceiver ground.  Now I realize there is yet another
reason for all the hum and noise complaints about the audio when the
Rigblaster is used.  I would strongly suggest modifying the RigBlaster by
adding a transformer to break this sneak ground path - if that is possible
in this unit (it may not be due to the physical ground arrangement).

73,
Don W3FPR


> -----Original Message-----
>
> On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 10:12:47 -0400, Michael E. Dobson wrote:
>
> >Once you have receive working, the instructions supplied for the K2
> >should work for transmitting but that will depend upon how you wired
> >the microphone connector on your K2.  Make sure you have the
> >RigBlaster jumpered so that the signals appear on the same pins as
> >they do on your microphone.
>
>   I have the RigBlaster connected to one computer serial port and
>   the K2 connected to another for remote control via Ham Radio
>   Deluxe.  The main question I have is if there is a better way
>   to get the computer to trigger the transmiter than to use the
>   VOX.
>
> >The only problem I encountered was not being able to use the
> >microphone through the RigBlaster due to hum on my audio.  I suspect
> >this is a grounding issue caused in part by not having the
> >microphione jack in the K2 grounded  in my version, S/N 2221.  Next
> >time I open it up for mods, it is my To Do list.
>
>   I have a much later K2 and have had no reports about hum.
>
> --
>    73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
>    Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402
>

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RE: K-2 and digital question

Phil Kane-2
On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 20:07:38 -0400, Don Wilhelm wrote:

>The Rigblaster is capable of controlling PTT from its serial port
>connection.

>I don't have a RigBlaster, but I just looked at the schematic
>and see that you must have P5 pin 1 jumpered to pin 10 (PSK31
>programs control PTT with the RTS signal),

  It is shipped with this jumper on only one pin in the default
  condition.  I put it on both - didn't even have to scrounge my jubk
  box for the jumper!

>and you must jumper
>P1:B pin 18 to whichever pin you use on your K2 mic jack for PTT
>(if your K2 is wired for the Elecraft configuration with mic pin
>2 as PTT, you would wire P1:B pin 18 to P1:B pin 25).

  This is done when one sets up the mike configuration in the RB.

>That should allow the RS-232 interface, the Foot switch as well as the front
>panel mic input to control the PTT line.  Of course, the AUTO/VOX switch
>should be in the AUTO position.

  One other item needs to be noted.  In MixW (for those of us who
  use it), go to Config | TRCVR CAT/PTT and make sure that the
  serial port used for the RB is specified and enabled and CAT
  set to "None".

  When all that was done, everything worked properly.

>I don't know how that squares with the Rigblaster instructions, but it is
>what their website schematic indicates must be done.

  It's in there on the last page but it's rather cryptic.  The
  configuration is the one for "PTT on RTS  DTR and TXD on KEY"

>After looking at the Rigblaster schematic, I am amazed that they
>did not include a transformer in the headphone jack to soundcard
>connection.  What that means is that despite all the
>optoisolators used in this unit, the headphone jack connection
>negates any other attempts to isolate the computer ground from
>the transceiver ground.  Now I realize there is yet another
>reason for all the hum and noise complaints about the audio when
>the Rigblaster is used.  I would strongly suggest modifying the
>RigBlaster by adding a transformer to break this sneak ground
>path - if that is possible in this unit (it may not be due to the
>physical ground arrangement).

   Hmmmmmm  <g>  I don't think that it's possible because of the
   way the PCB is laid out.  Perhaps the designer for West
   Mountain Radio could take that into consideration.  My RB is
   fed to the computer through an iMic USB adapter.  I don't know
   if there's any isolation in that, or if an in-line isolation
   transformer outboard of the RB would do any good.  In any
   event I don't use the headphone jack on the RB.

   Now to get some QSOs (I've been working a state a day on 40 m
   in the early evenings.....)  <g>   C U All on 7070......

--
   73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
   Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

   From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
   Beaverton (Washington County)  Oregon



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Re: K-2 and digital question

Bill Coleman-2
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On Aug 30, 2006, at 11:02 AM, H.Cary III wrote:

> Has anyone connected a RigBlaster with their K2 for SSTV or PSK-31?

I don't use a RigBlaster, but I built a homebrew box with a couple of  
transformers that I've successfully used both with MMTTY on an old  
Toshiba laptop and with CocoaModem on my PowerBook G4 12" laptop.


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K2 on Digital stuff

Tom Skinner-3
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Hello Group,

I have been using an MFJ-1279 for digital (just PSK_31 for now) and it seems
to be very well behaved.  External sensors confirm a clean signal.  Bit
pricy, but well-featured.

My question is:

Have any of you used the MFJ digital software (RadioCom4 or RadioCom5)?

Both are very expensive for software, and I don't want to take a blind risk.
They seem to offer everything but fresh grilled cheese sandwiches.  Are they
worth the $$$?

TIA,

73,

Tom - KJ3D


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