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Art Suberbielle

K-3 RIT readout

Hi,

What's the chance of adding the RIT or XIT readout on the display in small
numbers next to the RIT or XIT oval?

Although you can see the amount of offset change as you rotate the knob, it
would be helpful to have the amount of offset visible to the operator at
all times.

73,

Art KZ5D
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Steve Ellington

Re: K-3 RIT readout

I agree. I seldom use vfo B. I don't want my rit offset to disappear like
this.
Steve
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> Hi,
>
> What's the chance of adding the RIT or XIT readout on the display in small
> numbers next to the RIT or XIT oval?
>
> Although you can see the amount of offset change as you rotate the knob,
> it
> would be helpful to have the amount of offset visible to the operator at
> all times.
>
> 73,
>
> Art KZ5D
> **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy
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N5GE

Re: K-3 RIT readout

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As a mostly CW operator, I never use RIT or XIT.

When calling CQ I set the B VFO to TX and call CQ in split. When A
station calls me off frequency I simply tune him in with the A VFO. If
he drifts, I follow him with the A VFO.

When answering a CQ I tune the other station in with the A VFO, double
tap the A>B button to set the B VFO to the frequency and mode of the A
VFO, go to split, TXing on the B VFO.

When in a net, I tune the NCS on A, double tap A>B, go to split and
when one of the other stations is not on freq I tune them in with the A VFO.

These procedures were learned in the day when I had separate TX and RX
rigs and they still work very well today.

If you have not tried these things, you should. These things are fun,
and fun is good.

> Hi,
>
> What's the chance of adding the RIT or XIT readout on the display in small
> numbers next to the RIT or XIT oval?
>
> Although you can see the amount of offset change as you rotate the knob, it
> would be helpful to have the amount of offset visible to the operator at
> all times.
>
> 73,
>
> Art KZ5D
> **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy
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Amateur Radio Operator N5GE

N5GE

Re: K-3 RIT readout

N5GE wrote:

Another comment:

When I follow another station with the A VFO wile working split I don't
need to know the offset of the RX frequency. I can read it directly
from the A VFO.

73

Tom, N5GE

> [hidden email] wrote:
>
> As a mostly CW operator, I never use RIT or XIT.
>
> When calling CQ I set the B VFO to TX and call CQ in split. When A
> station calls me off frequency I simply tune him in with the A VFO. If
> he drifts, I follow him with the A VFO.
>
> When answering a CQ I tune the other station in with the A VFO, double
> tap the A>B button to set the B VFO to the frequency and mode of the A
> VFO, go to split, TXing on the B VFO.
>
> When in a net, I tune the NCS on A, double tap A>B, go to split and
> when one of the other stations is not on freq I tune them in with the A VFO.
>
> These procedures were learned in the day when I had separate TX and RX
> rigs and they still work very well today.
>
> If you have not tried these things, you should. These things are fun,
> and fun is good.
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> What's the chance of adding the RIT or XIT readout on the display in small
>> numbers next to the RIT or XIT oval?
>>
>> Although you can see the amount of offset change as you rotate the knob, it
>> would be helpful to have the amount of offset visible to the operator at
>> all times.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Art KZ5D
>> **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy
>> Steps!
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Steve Ellington

Re: K-3 RIT readout

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Good grief! That reminds me of the old Omni V which had no RIT. TenTec used
the same logic and it only lasted through one model number.....The main pain
about this is when you tune off and forget to double tap then call CQ half a
band away. Yes I had separate tx and rx back in the old days but even that
was easier than all this button tapping.
ZUT CW Forever etc. tap tap tap tap! The key, not the buttons!
Steve
N4LQ
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Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K-3 RIT readout

> [hidden email] wrote:
>
> As a mostly CW operator, I never use RIT or XIT.
>
> When calling CQ I set the B VFO to TX and call CQ in split. When A
> station calls me off frequency I simply tune him in with the A VFO. If
> he drifts, I follow him with the A VFO.
>
> When answering a CQ I tune the other station in with the A VFO, double
> tap the A>B button to set the B VFO to the frequency and mode of the A
> VFO, go to split, TXing on the B VFO.
>
> When in a net, I tune the NCS on A, double tap A>B, go to split and
> when one of the other stations is not on freq I tune them in with the A
> VFO.
>
> These procedures were learned in the day when I had separate TX and RX
> rigs and they still work very well today.
>
> If you have not tried these things, you should. These things are fun,
> and fun is good.
>> Hi,
>>
>> What's the chance of adding the RIT or XIT readout on the display in
>> small
>> numbers next to the RIT or XIT oval?
>>
>> Although you can see the amount of offset change as you rotate the knob,
>> it
>> would be helpful to have the amount of offset visible to the operator at
>> all times.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Art KZ5D
>> **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy
>> Steps!
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Re: K-3 RIT readout

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drewko

Re: K-3 RIT readout

In reply to this post by Art Suberbielle

On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 08:41:15 -0400 (EDT), Art KZ5D wrote:

>
>What's the chance of adding the RIT or XIT readout on the display in small
>numbers next to the RIT or XIT oval?
>

Zero chance without re-designed LCD hardware.

I suppose they could implement an menu option to make the RIT offset
"sticky" and the VFO-B readout temporary (i.e., after the VFO B knob
is moved the display would show the vfo b freq for a few seconds;
otherwise the RIT offset, if any, would be displayed). That sounds
like what you would want.

73,
Drew
AF2Z

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Mike Harris

Re: K-3 RIT readout

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G'day,

Unless I'm missing something, if you don't want to use VFO B you
can tap DISP and select the third option, the one after the date,
you get a permanent display of the RIT/XIT offset.

Regards,

Mike VP8NO

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Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 8:41 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] K-3 RIT readout

> Hi,
>
> What's the chance of adding the RIT or XIT readout on the
> display in small
> numbers next to the RIT or XIT oval?
>
> Although you can see the amount of offset change as you rotate
> the knob, it
> would be helpful to have the amount of offset visible to the
> operator at
> all times.
>
> 73,
>
> Art KZ5D

Val-12

Re: K-3 RIT readout

In reply to this post by Art Suberbielle

And the same for the CW speed. Every time I'm going to call somebody, I
touch the knob only to see if my speed match his speed.

73,

Val LZ1VB

Greg - AB7R

Re: K-3 RIT readout

In reply to this post by Steve Ellington

The LCD cannot be changed. But if you are not using the VFO B
information you can tap DISP for the alternate display and adjust it
so that it shows the RIT offset all the time.

73
Greg
AB7R

On Jul 26, 2009, at 5:47 AM, Steve Ellington wrote:

> I agree. I seldom use vfo B. I don't want my rit offset to disappear
> like
> this.
> Steve
> N4LQ
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> Subject: [Elecraft] K-3 RIT readout
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> What's the chance of adding the RIT or XIT readout on the display
>> in small
>> numbers next to the RIT or XIT oval?
>>
>> Although you can see the amount of offset change as you rotate the
>> knob,
>> it
>> would be helpful to have the amount of offset visible to the
>> operator at
>> all times.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Art KZ5D
>> **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2
>> Easy
>> Steps!
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Joe Subich, W4TV-4

Re: K-3 RIT readout

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> Unless I'm missing something, if you don't want to use VFO B you
> can tap DISP and select the third option, the one after the date,
> you get a permanent display of the RIT/XIT offset.

Amen! RTFM <G>.

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> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Mike Harris
> Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 11:46 AM
> To: [hidden email]; [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K-3 RIT readout
>
>
> G'day,
>
> Unless I'm missing something, if you don't want to use VFO B you
> can tap DISP and select the third option, the one after the date,
> you get a permanent display of the RIT/XIT offset.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike VP8NO
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[hidden email]>
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 8:41 AM
> Subject: [Elecraft] K-3 RIT readout
>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > What's the chance of adding the RIT or XIT readout on the
> > display in small
> > numbers next to the RIT or XIT oval?
> >
> > Although you can see the amount of offset change as you rotate
> > the knob, it
> > would be helpful to have the amount of offset visible to the
> > operator at
> > all times.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Art KZ5D
>
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Steve Ellington

Re: K-3 RIT readout

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No fair reading some instruction book!!
Steve
N4LQ
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Cc: <[hidden email]>; <[hidden email]>
Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K-3 RIT readout

> The LCD cannot be changed. But if you are not using the VFO B
> information you can tap DISP for the alternate display and adjust it so
> that it shows the RIT offset all the time.
>
> 73
> Greg
> AB7R
>
> On Jul 26, 2009, at 5:47 AM, Steve Ellington wrote:
>
>> I agree. I seldom use vfo B. I don't want my rit offset to disappear
>> like
>> this.
>> Steve
>> N4LQ
>> [hidden email]
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <[hidden email]>
>> To: <[hidden email]>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 8:41 AM
>> Subject: [Elecraft] K-3 RIT readout
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> What's the chance of adding the RIT or XIT readout on the display in
>>> small
>>> numbers next to the RIT or XIT oval?
>>>
>>> Although you can see the amount of offset change as you rotate the
>>> knob,
>>> it
>>> would be helpful to have the amount of offset visible to the operator
>>> at
>>> all times.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> Art KZ5D
>>> **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2
>>> Easy
>>> Steps!
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Alexandr Kobranov

Re: K-3 RIT readout

In reply to this post by Greg - AB7R

This is also little bit about possibility to LOCK knob "VFO B" to
avoid switvhing display by unwanted touching of this one.
(speking about locking of knob function switching not abot VFO frq).
73!
Lexa, ok1dst
K3/1% #727

Gregory Fischer napsal(a):

> The LCD cannot be changed. But if you are not using the VFO B
> information you can tap DISP for the alternate display and adjust it
> so that it shows the RIT offset all the time.
>
> 73
> Greg
> AB7R
>
> On Jul 26, 2009, at 5:47 AM, Steve Ellington wrote:
>
>> I agree. I seldom use vfo B. I don't want my rit offset to disappear
>> like
>> this.
>> Steve
>> N4LQ
>> [hidden email]
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <[hidden email]>
>> To: <[hidden email]>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 8:41 AM
>> Subject: [Elecraft] K-3 RIT readout
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> What's the chance of adding the RIT or XIT readout on the display
>>> in small
>>> numbers next to the RIT or XIT oval?
>>>
>>> Although you can see the amount of offset change as you rotate the
>>> knob,
>>> it
>>> would be helpful to have the amount of offset visible to the
>>> operator at
>>> all times.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> Art KZ5D
>>> **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2
>>> Easy
>>> Steps!
>>> (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221323048x1201367271/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx
>>> ?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=Jul
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Bill W4ZV

Re: K-3 RIT readout

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N5GE wrote

As a mostly CW operator, I never use RIT or XIT.

When calling CQ I set the B VFO to TX and call CQ in split. When A
station calls me off frequency I simply tune him in with the A VFO. If
he drifts, I follow him with the A VFO.

When answering a CQ I tune the other station in with the A VFO, double
tap the A>B button to set the B VFO to the frequency and mode of the A
VFO, go to split, TXing on the B VFO.

When in a net, I tune the NCS on A, double tap A>B, go to split and
when one of the other stations is not on freq I tune them in with the A VFO.

These procedures were learned in the day when I had separate TX and RX
rigs and they still work very well today.

If you have not tried these things, you should. These things are fun,
and fun is good.

I agree 100%. I never use RIT. Why would I want to use that dinky little RIT knob when I can use the big fat Main VFO A knob (as you described using Split)? PIEXX made a nice addition to their TS-930S digital interface mod which I believe is now on Elecraft's (aka Wayne's) list.

http://www.piexx.com/ts930/ts930manual.pdf (page 2)

"RIT tuning by main tuning knob when D. LOCK pressed. Selectable tuning rates."

D. LOCK in TS-930S jargon is "DIAL LOCK". So when you press D. LOCK, the TX frequency is locked but the RX frequency can still be changed by turning the Main VFO. IMHO this will be a nice addition when Wayne gets around to it.

I did have to use the K3's RIT to do Diversity Split in an early release but that problem has since been solved now that Diversity Split is implemented. What a joy not to touch that dinky RIT knob any longer!

73, Bill W4ZV

Brett Howard

Re: K-3 RIT readout

Although the dinky knob can be configured as a fast QSY which works a
lot like the m.ch knob on my kenwood did.

On Sun, 2009-07-26 at 17:27 -0700, Bill W4ZV wrote:

>
>
> N5GE wrote:
> >
> > As a mostly CW operator, I never use RIT or XIT.
> >
> > When calling CQ I set the B VFO to TX and call CQ in split. When A
> > station calls me off frequency I simply tune him in with the A VFO. If
> > he drifts, I follow him with the A VFO.
> >
> > When answering a CQ I tune the other station in with the A VFO, double
> > tap the A>B button to set the B VFO to the frequency and mode of the A
> > VFO, go to split, TXing on the B VFO.
> >
> > When in a net, I tune the NCS on A, double tap A>B, go to split and
> > when one of the other stations is not on freq I tune them in with the A
> > VFO.
> >
> > These procedures were learned in the day when I had separate TX and RX
> > rigs and they still work very well today.
> >
> > If you have not tried these things, you should. These things are fun,
> > and fun is good.
> >
>
> I agree 100%. I never use RIT. Why would I want to use that dinky little
> RIT knob when I can use the big fat Main VFO A knob (as you described using
> Split)? PIEXX made a nice addition to their TS-930S digital interface mod
> which I believe is now on Elecraft's (aka Wayne's) list.
>
> http://www.piexx.com/ts930/ts930manual.pdf (page 2)
>
> "RIT tuning by main tuning knob when D. LOCK pressed. Selectable tuning
> rates."
>
> D. LOCK in TS-930S jargon is "DIAL LOCK". So when you press D. LOCK, the TX
> frequency is locked but the RX frequency can still be changed by turning the
> Main VFO. IMHO this will be a nice addition when Wayne gets around to it.
>
> I did have to use the K3's RIT to do Diversity Split in an early release but
> that problem has since been solved now that Diversity Split is implemented.
> What a joy not to touch that dinky RIT knob any longer!
>
> 73, Bill W4ZV
>