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K144XV Frequency Error

Bill Schwantes
Hi Folks,

I need help.  I have an early K3 equipped with the K3EXREF Frequency Lock
Option, K144XV Two Meter Module and K144XV Reference Oscillator Phase Lock
Option.

Some time after installing the KSYN3A synthesizers I noticed that the 144
Mhz band has a 5.6 KHz frequency error.  Signals occurring on the 144.200
calling frequency appear at 144.1944.

Other bands do not display this frequency error.

These observations have been verified by a very precise RF signal
generator.

I verified that the 10 Mhz GPS reference is present and meets the Elecraft
amplitude requirements. The tech mode menu "ref cal" asterisk is present
and blinking, indicating that the radio is phase locked to the 10 Mhz
reference.

I went back through the installation manuals for the options mentioned and
did not find any error.  I'm concluding that I may have made an assembly
error when installing the KSYN3a.

Can some member of the Elecraft "brain trust" help me find and resolve this
problem please?

Thanks, Bill
W7QQ
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Re: K144XV Frequency Error

Don Wilhelm-4
Bill,

A wild guess - did you have an offset turned on in the menu before you
installed the K3EXREF?
I assume you have both the K3EXREF option along with the K144RFLK
options for best stability of the K144XV.
Check the XVn OFS menu parameter.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 9/18/2015 6:51 PM, Bill Schwantes wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>
> I need help.  I have an early K3 equipped with the K3EXREF Frequency Lock
> Option, K144XV Two Meter Module and K144XV Reference Oscillator Phase Lock
> Option.
>
> Some time after installing the KSYN3A synthesizers I noticed that the 144
> Mhz band has a 5.6 KHz frequency error.  Signals occurring on the 144.200
> calling frequency appear at 144.1944.
>
>

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Re: K144XV Frequency Error

Bob-270
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Hi Bill,

          Under main menu look for XV OFS.  Believe has a +/- 10kc shift range
which will move you on frequency.   If you had it right before it  may have got
shifted or even turned off accidentally.

73,
Bob
K2TK

On 9/18/2015 6:51 PM, Bill Schwantes wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>
> I need help.  I have an early K3 equipped with the K3EXREF Frequency Lock
> Option, K144XV Two Meter Module and K144XV Reference Oscillator Phase Lock
> Option.
>
> Some time after installing the KSYN3A synthesizers I noticed that the 144
> Mhz band has a 5.6 KHz frequency error.  Signals occurring on the 144.200
> calling frequency appear at 144.1944.
>
> Other bands do not display this frequency error.
>
> These observations have been verified by a very precise RF signal
> generator.
>
> I verified that the 10 Mhz GPS reference is present and meets the Elecraft
> amplitude requirements. The tech mode menu "ref cal" asterisk is present
> and blinking, indicating that the radio is phase locked to the 10 Mhz
> reference.
>
> I went back through the installation manuals for the options mentioned and
> did not find any error.  I'm concluding that I may have made an assembly
> error when installing the KSYN3a.
>
> Can some member of the Elecraft "brain trust" help me find and resolve this
> problem please?
>
> Thanks, Bill
> W7QQ
>

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Re: K144XV Frequency Error

Bill Frantz
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I just installed a 2nd receiver and the 2M ref lock. The KRX3A
installation manual, which uses the new synths shows J4 of the
new style main synth connected to REF IN on the 2M transverter.

The ref lock installation manual shows J83 of the old style
synth connected to REF IN and REF OUT connected to J2 on the
KREF3 board.

Absent advice from someone at Elecraft who knows, I would use J4
with the new synths and the J83 with a jumper to the KREF3 board
with the old synths.

73 Bill AE6JV

On 9/18/15 at 3:51 PM, [hidden email] (Bill Schwantes) wrote:

>Hi Folks,
>
>I need help.  I have an early K3 equipped with the K3EXREF Frequency Lock
>Option, K144XV Two Meter Module and K144XV Reference Oscillator Phase Lock
>Option.
>
>Some time after installing the KSYN3A synthesizers I noticed that the 144
>Mhz band has a 5.6 KHz frequency error.  Signals occurring on the 144.200
>calling frequency appear at 144.1944.
>
>Other bands do not display this frequency error.
>
>These observations have been verified by a very precise RF signal
>generator.
>
>I verified that the 10 Mhz GPS reference is present and meets the Elecraft
>amplitude requirements. The tech mode menu "ref cal" asterisk is present
>and blinking, indicating that the radio is phase locked to the 10 Mhz
>reference.
>
>I went back through the installation manuals for the options mentioned and
>did not find any error.  I'm concluding that I may have made an assembly
>error when installing the KSYN3a.
>
>Can some member of the Elecraft "brain trust" help me find and resolve this
>problem please?
>
>Thanks, Bill
>W7QQ
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Re: K144XV Frequency Error

Jim Brown-10
On Fri,9/18/2015 5:28 PM, Bill Frantz wrote:
> I just installed a 2nd receiver and the 2M ref lock. The KRX3A
> installation manual, which uses the new synths shows J4 of the new
> style main synth connected to REF IN on the 2M transverter.

I installed five synth boards. It's been a while, but I think I remember
the instructions for the new boards having really good pix documenting
what plugs to what, but I don't have an internal 2M transverter.

73, Jim
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