K2: Is Inventory really a necessity?
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K2: Is Inventory really a necessity?
 
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Hello. My name is Stan WB2LQF and I am a new lister, having just
received my K2 kit yesterday. My question is, "Do you folks think it is really necessary to detail-inventory the Elecraft K2 product?? The packaging was impressive. The task of a complete and detailed inventory looks time consuming, downright boring, and a great opportunity to lose/break/misplace/confuse or static-damage parts. Seems to me that Elecraft should be able to get it "mostly correct". My thinking is that all those parts may be safer just sitting in their little bags until it's time to open the bag. if it takes me "too long" to report a missing part and as a result Elecraft won't replace it for free, I won't exactly go broke buying the missing part from them. Seems like a reasonable risk to offset the investment of time + the aforementioned risks of inventorying. I'm a new Elecraft customer so I'm not in a position to size them up, although I keep hearing they are a first class outfit and I would assume their quality control extends to shipment accuracy. I'd be interested in the majority opinion from Elecraft customers who've faced this same decision - to inventory or not. Thanks! ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Actually it's more than an inventory....it allows you to separate items
into containers for easy finding. But even more important is that you are able to identify all the various pieces, as it's very easy to confuse one choke for another, or one capacitor for another. It's not inventory for inventory's sake...it's actually a pure building step in familiarizing yourself will all the parts. Gregg, W9DHI > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Really short answer: yes, although you needn't check all the resistors that are supplied
on a tape. Reason: you get to know and recognize the parts. There are some variations in some of the capacitors, etc. and some which are different but which look similar to each other. If you clarify before installing anything, you're less likely to find yourself having installed a wrong part. The whole job will not take longer, because if you have identified and sorted the parts you will be able to grab them more quickly when you need them. Construction will go more smoothly. You are not so much doing it to catch Elecraft's mistakes as to prevent YOU from making mistakes! On 7/17/2010 1:06 PM, stan levandowski wrote: > Hello. My name is Stan WB2LQF and I am a new lister, having just > received my K2 kit yesterday. > > My question is, "Do you folks think it is really necessary to > detail-inventory the Elecraft K2 product?? > > The packaging was impressive. The task of a complete and detailed > inventory looks time consuming, downright boring, and a great > opportunity to lose/break/misplace/confuse or static-damage parts. > Seems to me that Elecraft should be able to get it "mostly correct". My > thinking is that all those parts may be safer just sitting in their > little bags until it's time to open the bag. if it takes me "too long" > to report a missing part and as a result Elecraft won't replace it for > free, I won't exactly go broke buying the missing part from them. Seems > like a reasonable risk to offset the investment of time + the > aforementioned risks of inventorying. > > I'm a new Elecraft customer so I'm not in a position to size them up, > although I keep hearing they are a first class outfit and I would assume > their quality control extends to shipment accuracy. > > I'd be interested in the majority opinion from Elecraft customers who've > faced this same decision - to inventory or not. > > Thanks! -- Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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In reply to this post by stan levandowski
At 02:06 PM 17/07/10, you wrote:
> lose/break/misplace/confuse or static-damage parts. These things are more apt to happen without inventory. Just my point of view after building a K1 and a couple K2's. Don't rush it, because a few days after it's done miss the build. Good luck Stan, most of all, have fun. John k7up ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Stan,
I do not do a "complete inventory" for all the packages up front (but then I have spare parts available, and that makes me a it different). I DO sort each package and place the components in an order so I can reach them quickly. I use the "corrugated box" method advocated by Heathkit 'way back when' - cut a USPS Priority Mail cardboard box (the O-1097 size works best) in half along all the narrow edges. The center serves as a tray for miscellaneous parts and the holes in the corrugations along the sides hold leaded components - just stick the leads in the holes. I arrange the capacitors in value order with the lowest values toward the front. Inductors, diodes (and resistors for the KX1) go on the right side =- again arranged in value order. When building, I can quickly pluck out the correct component, check its value and insert it on the board. The sorting takes a little time, but once sorted, the quick and easy picking of the correct component is accomplished much faster than any other method I have used. I have tried muffin tins, assorted envelopes, taping components on a paper, and other various methods over the years, but the Heathkit style corrugated box has always been the one I come back to. OK, I went a little astray in my response, but my point is - If you don't want to do an inventory, at least do a sort, it will save you a lot of time later in the process. 73, Don W3FPR stan levandowski wrote: > Hello. My name is Stan WB2LQF and I am a new lister, having just > received my K2 kit yesterday. > > My question is, "Do you folks think it is really necessary to > detail-inventory the Elecraft K2 product?? > > The packaging was impressive. The task of a complete and detailed > inventory looks time consuming, downright boring, and a great > opportunity to lose/break/misplace/confuse or static-damage parts. > Seems to me that Elecraft should be able to get it "mostly correct". My > thinking is that all those parts may be safer just sitting in their > little bags until it's time to open the bag. if it takes me "too long" > to report a missing part and as a result Elecraft won't replace it for > free, I won't exactly go broke buying the missing part from them. Seems > like a reasonable risk to offset the investment of time + the > aforementioned risks of inventorying. > > I'm a new Elecraft customer so I'm not in a position to size them up, > although I keep hearing they are a first class outfit and I would assume > their quality control extends to shipment accuracy. > > I'd be interested in the majority opinion from Elecraft customers who've > faced this same decision - to inventory or not. > > Thanks! > > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I just completed my K2, and I inventoried the components for each board as I
progressed through the kit. To echo others, the inventory does help you organize and recognize the components. And yes, I did discover a couple of missing components for the RF board. However, they were not needed until later in the build and Elecraft got them to me in plenty of time. 73 Don W4DHH On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 4:06 PM, stan levandowski <[hidden email]>wrote: > Hello. My name is Stan WB2LQF and I am a new lister, having just > received my K2 kit yesterday. > > My question is, "Do you folks think it is really necessary to > detail-inventory the Elecraft K2 product?? > > The packaging was impressive. The task of a complete and detailed > inventory looks time consuming, downright boring, and a great > opportunity to lose/break/misplace/confuse or static-damage parts. > Seems to me that Elecraft should be able to get it "mostly correct". My > thinking is that all those parts may be safer just sitting in their > little bags until it's time to open the bag. if it takes me "too long" > to report a missing part and as a result Elecraft won't replace it for > free, I won't exactly go broke buying the missing part from them. Seems > like a reasonable risk to offset the investment of time + the > aforementioned risks of inventorying. > > I'm a new Elecraft customer so I'm not in a position to size them up, > although I keep hearing they are a first class outfit and I would assume > their quality control extends to shipment accuracy. > > I'd be interested in the majority opinion from Elecraft customers who've > faced this same decision - to inventory or not. > > Thanks! > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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"DETAILED INVENTORY"?
No. However I am a pretty experienced builder/home brewer which may have influenced my decision. My inventory consisted of separating things like hardware, resisters, electrolytic caps, etc, into large piles of like parts PER ASSEMBLY section. I did this using a commercial egg carton (has 30 depressions) I picked up from a local diner. I built 1 assembly at a time, leaving the remaining assemblies still in their unopened packaging. If you notice, the instructions have you put all (or a bunch of) the resisters in at once, or all the caps. When I got to that particular step I would then detail inventory before performing that step. Then I would solder all the parts at once. I also found a couple of parts missing BUT, since I had bought 2 K2s at once, I took the parts from the second one, to complete the step in the first one. So for me no waiting for parts being sent. However, even if I did not have that luxury, the replacements came very fast without question. My K2 has all options except the 100W amp (I only wanted mine for QRP), so it's pretty full in there! So out of the 1000s of parts I received I was amazed at how well these kits are packed. John K2QY ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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